中国是技术最发达的发展中国家吗？ [美国媒体]

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The 36 countries listed by IMF advanced economies(Developed country ) are generally considered developed nations. The rest are all developing countries.

由IMF发达经济体列出来的36个国家（地区）都是公认的发达国家（地区）。其他的都是发展中国家。

Australia  澳大利亚
Austria     奥地利
Belgium   比利时
Canada    加拿大
Cyprus     塞浦路斯
Czech Republic  捷克共和国
Denmark  丹麦
Estonia     爱沙尼亚
Finland     芬兰
France      法国
Germany  德国
Greece     希腊
Hong Kong 香港
Iceland     冰岛
Ireland      爱尔兰
Israel         以色列
Italy           意大利
Japan        日本
Latvia        拉脱维亚
Luxembourg   卢森堡
Malta         马耳他
Netherlands  荷兰
New Zealand 新西兰
Norway      挪威
Portugal     葡萄牙
San Marino 圣马力诺
Singapore   新加坡
Slovakia      斯洛伐克
Slovenia      斯洛文尼亚
South Korea  韩国
Spain          西班牙
Sweden       瑞典
Switzerland 瑞士
Taiwan        台湾
United Kingdom  英国
United States    美国


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Daniel Cohort Computer professional in China
upxed Sep 9
Yes. Just take a look at these :
China put a man into space in 2003.
China sent a land rover to the moon in 2013.
China launched a space lab in 2011.
Chinese supercomputer has been ranked No.1 in the Top500 list beating America for 6 consecutive times up to now. China builds the fastest computer in the world.
China has a strong nuclear program.
China has the longest high-speed rail system in the world. The design and development of the system is indigenous to China.
China is the world leader in quantum communication. The first quantum communication satellite in the world was launched by China in 2016/8.
China has indigenous version of American C-17 heavy lifter.
China is taking on Boeing and Air-bus.
Sometimes Silicon valley copies China for their mobile internet ideas.
China is also the world’s largest exporter of smart phones including iPhones.
Chinese Jiao Long reached deeper than 7000 meters below the sea.
China built the longest bridge in the world (more than 164 kilometers)
Lenovo is the world’s No.1 PC maker
DJI is the world’s No.1 drone maker
Baidu is testing the Chinese atonomous driving car
Alibaba is the world’s largest E-commerce platform
PLAN surpassed Russian navy in surface vessel quality and capabilities

来看看这些吧：
中国于2003年把第一个宇航员送入太空；
中国在2013年向月球派出了一辆地面漫游车
中国在2011年发射了一个太空实验室；
迄今中国的超级计算机已经连续6次击败美国位列500强名单首位，中国建造了世界上最快的计算机。
中国有个宏大的核项目；
中国拥有世界上最长的高铁网络，此项目的设计和开发全部国产化；
中国是量子通讯的世界领导者，世界上第一颗量子通讯卫星是中国在2016年8月发射的。
中国研发了美国C-17运输机的自制版本（指运20？）；
中国在接纳波音和空客项目；
有时候硅谷会在移动网络的想法上复制中国；
中国也是世界上最大的移动手机出口国，包括苹果在内；
中国的蛟龙号下潜到了超过7000多米的海底；
中国建造了世界上最长的大桥（超过164公里）；
联想是世界上最大的PC制造商；
大疆是世界上最大的无人机制造商；
百度在测试中国的无人驾驶汽车；
阿里巴巴是世界上最大的电子商务平台；
中国海军水面舰艇的质量和性能超过了俄罗斯海军；





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Kowthamraj Vs58 votes Show
True Indeed. I just hope China don’t follow the foot steps of past powers like USA Uk in destabilising regions across the world.

确实，我希望中国不要步美国的后尘，在全世界到处煽风点火。

Arkan Tanriwa8 votes Show
That is all great. I just hoped China had better designers who understood Western and Latin character aesthetics. Look at that type design for the fastest supercomputer in the world for example. God that is the fastest supercomputer in the world and the way they write the name looks like they had slapped it on a cheap $3 fake powerbank…

很伟大，但素，中国能不能学学西方和拉丁的美学。。。你看，这可是世界最快的超级计算机，最快哒！！可他们把名字设计得跟路边3美元的假电池贴的标牌似的。（可以去百度图片）

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Lingyi Guo3 votes Show
If all the Chinese guys on this site start posting totally unrelated negative stuff about say India on a thread about say the rise of Indian tech firms… Imagine when Robert Frost post some awesome stuff about NASA and a bunch of Chinese guys starts complaining about occupation soldiers raping school girls in Okinawa… Lol I should get people to start on that.

如果这个网站上所有的中国人都开始发一些关于印度科技公司崛起的过程中完全无关的负面材料，，…想像下，就像当罗伯特·弗罗斯特发表关于NASA的一些很棒的东西时，一群中国人开始抱怨（美国的)职业士兵在冲绳强奸女学生。。。哈哈，我应该让人开始这么做。

Henrique Carneiro Zhu61 votes Show
To every fanatical anti-Chinese here:
Please read. The question is asking whether China is the most advanced developing country.

这里所有狂热的反华分子：
请看好，问题是中国是不是最先进的发展中国家。

Opeyemi Ahmed10 votes Show
with all these achievements should we still classify china as a “developing” country?

有了这么多的成就，我们还应该把中国当作发展中国家？？

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Ben Bradfield7 votes Show
Don't know where you got “Alibaba is the world's largest e-commerce platform”. Is it possible that you've never heard of a company called Amazon? Quick check - Amazon revenue = $100 billion. Alibaba revenue < $15 billion. Amazon employee count - 270000. Alibaba employee count - 46000. Most of your claims are correct but on this one you couldn't be more wrong.

谁告诉你阿里巴巴是世界上最大的电子商务平台的，你难道么听过亚马逊的大名？？亚马逊年收入1000亿美元，阿里巴巴年收入不到150亿美元。亚马逊员工27万，阿里员工4.6万。你说的别的都对，就这点，错的不能再错。

Mats Hansen6 votes Show
Lol the design of the high-speed rail system is indigenous to Germany… The first test track still stands where it has once been erected. Additionally the entire scientific staff responsible for the design of the first High-speed railroads in China is from Germany. Get your facts right!

哟哟哟，高铁的设计体系可是德国原产---第一条测试轨道还在那里立着哪。另外，负责中国第一条高铁设计的科研团队全是德国人，搞清楚！！

Ohh and by the way approximately 30% percent of the staff working on the improvement and modernization of your railroads are German engineers directly recruited from KIT and RWTH Aachen.

另外呢，负责铁路改进和现代化的那帮人，三成的都是从KIT和亚琛工业大学直招的德国工程师。

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Henry Resheto1 vote by Patrycjusz Michalczyk
^^China has indigenous version of American C-17 heavy lifter.^^

中国有本土版本的美国C-17重型运输机

What does it mean "indigenous version"? That they were able to successfuly copy (reverse engenner) the design of it?

什么叫“本土版本”？他们能成功复制（逆向工程）它的设计？

Trikors Delorian18 votes Show
Russia is the most advanced developing country. Sorry to burst your bubble we sent a man in space back in 1961. and are the only nation capable of launching people to the International Space Station. also second greatest nuclear power after the US. and the Chinese aircraft carrier also came from Russia.

俄罗斯是最先进的发展中国家。抱歉戳破你吹的泡泡，我们在1961年就把人送上太空，而且是唯一能把人送上国际空间站的国家，也是仅次于美国的核大国，中国的航母也是来自于俄罗斯。

Vivek Singh19 votes Show
While everything you said is probably true the train in the picture is from Taiwan (which for all practical reasons is not a part of China).

好吧，也许你说的都对，图片里的火车是台湾的（基于现实原因不是中国的一部分）

Anyways there can be no debate that China has made great strides in Science and Technology. It's competing with the US these days.

无论如何，中国在科学和技术方面取得了巨大的跨越是没有争论的，现在正在跟与美国一较高下。

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Ishaan Singh
Surpassing Russian surface fleet isn't saying much to be honest. Although PLAN clearly is the leader among the navies of developing countries.

老实说，超过俄罗斯的水面舰队并不能说明什么。尽管人民解放军海军显然是发展中国家的海军领导者。

Sanjay Vinayak
I don't know why China is even called a developing country with all that.

我不明白为什么有那么多成就的中国任被称做发展中国家。

Ryan Airth11 votes Show
It probably helps that the west depends on China to manufacture products that we use then with all the capital their government puts it to good use.

西方依靠中国来生产我们所用的产品可能是有益的。之后他们的政府能将这些资本用到正确的地方去。

I just hope those air filters do their job sooner rather than later as their air pollution is one thing I really dislike about China actually their pollution in general same for the US and some European nations I hope they come up with technologies that the rest of the world can use in regards to water pollution and such with their capital.

我只是希望那些空气过滤器能够尽快发挥作用，因为空气污染是一件让我讨厌中国的事情。实际上他们的空气污染总体上和美国及欧洲一样，我希望他们能用自己的资本研发出让其他国家能够使用的新科技，从而解决水污染等等方面的问题。

(Is capital the appropriate word in this context?)

（“资本”在文章中是一个合适的词么？）    

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Viswanath Ajikumar1 vote by Patrycjusz Michalczyk
China is the world leader in copyright violations IPR violations trademark violations and in reverse engineering and copying technology in general.

中国在世界独占鳌头的是版权，知识产权和商标的侵权以及逆向工程和山寨技术。

Joseph Yiin
The picture you posted is not of the longest bridge in the world although it is among if not the longest bridge over sea water in the world.

这幅图展示的不是世界上最长的桥，而是世界最长的跨海大桥之一，如果不是最长的跨海大桥的话。

Susan Kelly14 votes Show
This seems more like a veiled statement or claim rather than a genuine question. The country has achieved a lot. At the grassroots level I see poor computer skills and lack of understanding of basic concepts related to technology.

这似乎更像一个含蓄的声明或者要求而不是一个单纯的问题。这个国家取得了许多。但在草根层面，我看到了可怜的电脑技术和对技术基本概念理解的缺乏。

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James Lee13 votes Show
China’s high-speed rail system isn’t indigenous. they bought the technology from Japan Germany and French and then assimilate it.

中国的高铁技术并不是自己研发的，他们是从日本，德国和法国购买的技术，然后吸收同化了。

Kenneth Miller7 votes Show
The Sunway TaihuLight is the ‘fastest supercomputer in the world’ but its per-core performance is shit and that no-cache scratchpad design is pretty bonkers to actually use. They threw a lot of money at owning the LINPACK with little regard for actual use.

神威—太湖之光是世界是最快的超级计算机，但是它的单核性能非常垃圾，实际使用中没有缓存暂存的设计是相当疯狂的。他们投入很多的钱在LINPACK（Linpack国际上最流行的用于测试高性能计算机系统浮点性能的线性系统软件包）而很少考虑它的实际使用。

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Leigh Hincks8 votes Show
This comment might make sense if china was a developing nation. china has been developed for abut 10 years now by any economic criteria. The question might be with such a huge developed country why is china still copying other country’s hard work instead of developing their own.

如果中国真是一个发展中国家，这种言论倒比较贴切。但是中国已经成为发达国家十年之久了，不论以哪种经济标准来衡量。问题是，中国这样一个发达大国为什么不发展自己的技术而去抄袭其他国家的呢？

Recently china spat the dummy over some perceived copyright infringement on some book. Yet the PRC allows chinese companies to do this without any detriment to the copier because they are probably government controlled companies.

最近中国又侵犯了版权。中华人民共和国允许中国公司做这种事不用付出任何代价，因为它们可能是国有企业。

By now there should be enough creative people in china to show the world what they can do. But no. Hacking into companies by the government is the way forward…… Really? No. It is time china showed some backbone and stopped hiding behind.. “we are a poor developing country”

现在中国应该有足够多有创意的人向世界展示他们能做到些什么。但是他们不。政府黑进企业是条路子。。。。真的么？不，中国是时候展现决心以及停止畏畏缩缩得说“我们还是贫穷的发展中国家”

This is NOT anti chinese. Criticism is not “anti” anything. Criticism is something any strong country can take on board and improve. Only weak stupid countries cannot….

这不是反华。批评从来就不是反对。批评是所有强国可以接受并且借助提升自身的。只有弱小愚蠢的国家不能做到。。。。。。

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Andrew Chung1 vote by Patrycjusz Michalczyk
Your statement regarding the high speed rail system is incorrect. China did not design nor create its rail system solely by itself (In my eyes that does not count as being “indigenous”). All it did was contract other countries such as Japan with cheap deals that resulted in China basically getting the technology and designs needed for the rail system for free (Skipping all the research and R&D the other countries put in in order to develop their high speed rail systems). I don’t want to start any arguments or anything but in my opinion China needs to really stop copying ideas (or stealing through hacking foreign countries such as the US India) and start actually developing things on their own.
You can check out this post by another Quora user: Richard Gadsden's answer to How did China become a strong competitor in the high-speed rail industry?

你对中国高速铁路的看法是不正确的。中国并没有独立的设计和创造它的铁路系统（在我眼里，这不算是“独立自主”）。他们和其他国家诸如日本签订廉价的合同，然后免费得到他想要的有关铁路系统的技术和设计。（跳过所有的研究和其他国家的研究开发过程，只为了发展自己的高速铁路系统）。我不想开始争论什么，但在我看来，中国需要停止抄袭的想法（或通过黑客盗窃国外如美国、印度），开始真正的发展他们自己的东西。
你可以看看另一个Quora用户的帖子：Richard Gadsden有关于中国为什么成为高速铁路行业强大的竞争者的回答。

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Abhishek Kumar1 vote by Arpit Sharma
You forgot the amazing ‘Three Gorges Dam'.

你忘了令人吃惊的“三峡大坝”。

Stanley Johanson2 votes Show
Is Russia a developing country? If so then championship of the space and military technologies in developing countries should go to Russia. The second argument is about smart phones and Lenovo (maybe wechat too). They are ‘the biggest’ but not that ‘technologically advanced’. They are the biggest not because China’s advanced technologies but the sufficient cheap labors.

俄罗斯算是发展中国家么？如果是的话，那么在发展中国家中太空和军事技术的冠军应该是俄罗斯。第二点关于智能手机和联想（也许微信也是）。他们是“最大的”，但不是“技术最先进的”。他们是最大的不是因为中国的先进技术而是充足的廉价劳动力。