为何中国生活水平同第一世界国家相当却仍被视为发展中国家 [美国媒体]

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I have visited China and I am surprised at how developed it is. Why is this country still considered developing if China is one of the most developed countries in the world.?

我去中国的时候被其发达程度所震惊。为什么它还被认为是发展中国家，即使它已经达到大多数发达国家的水平了呢？


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we_llneedships
“I have visited Shanghai Beijing and Guangzhou and I am surprised at how developed it is.”
Fixed that for you. Hope that answers your question.

“我已经到访过上海、北京和广州，并且我被这些城市的发达程度震住了”
帮你修订了一下。希望这就是你问题的答案。

tru_katana_samurai22
Okay but even outside of those cities I think that people in the rural areas live better lives than those who live in U.S. rural areas.

好吧，但是即使出了这些城市，我觉得那些住在乡下的人们同样比美国乡下的人们过得好。

Deflectere
Are you kidding me? You've obviously have never been to one of the two.

你是不是在开玩笑？你明显没去过这两种地方的任何一个地方。

we_llneedships
What do you mean you think? Have you seen the farmers lugging buckets of night-soil onto their fields? I'm not really sure what measure you are using to say developed. Infrastructure? Social safety net? Median income? Access to healthcare?

啥叫“你觉得”？你没见过农夫们拽着粪车上他们的地头吗？我真不清楚你用什么尺度来衡量“发达”。基础设施？社会保障体系？收入中位数？医疗救助途径？

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KRYMauL
Say that is the sign of a developing country is like saying European countries are developing because they hand pick grapes and foot press grapes.

把这说成是发展中国家的标志，就如同说因为欧洲国家的人用手摘葡萄、用脚榨葡萄汁，所以这些国家是发展中国家。

we_llneedships
No not really. If you've actually seen people here using night-soil you'd know those farms look nothing like farms that hand pick grapes. My point wasn't about the method per say but about the environment in which you would find that sort of thing as OP claims to have been to China.

不，并非如此。如果你真的看到过这里的人用粪便，你就会明白这与那些手工摘葡萄的农场一点儿也不同。我关注的点不在于劳作方法，而是你发现正如OP所说的这些植根于中国的劳作习惯的环境。

KRYMauL
So you mean that the rice fields are pre-industrial looking?

所以你是说这些稻田看起来还像工业化之前那么落后？

we_llneedships
No I mean everything in the environment in which the field exists looks more developing than developed world.

不是。我的意思是和发达国家相比，这些田地所处环境中的万物看起来都还在演进变化。

tru_katana_samurai22
Much better than Americans. Believe me China makes America look like a third world country. That is why I am baffled that the US is considered a developed country but yet China is not. Believe me those farmers are actually much wealthier and better off than the American lower class.

中国的情况比美国好多了。相信我，相比中国，美国看起来更像一个第三世界的国家。这也是我对美国是发达国家而中国却还不是发达国家产生困惑的原因。相信我，中国农民事实上比美国的下层人民要富有得多。

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we_llneedships
Believe me
No thanks. Not with a statement like that.
If you want to focus on a farmer how much land do Chinese farmers own? How do they till their fields? Where does their fertilizer come from? How do they get their goods to market? Once you've answered those questions go ahead and turn it around onto "first world countries". That is why China is not considered a first world country.

相信我。
并不是这样的，不能这么说。
如果你要是把重点放在农民身上的话，中国农民拥有多少土地？他们怎样耕种田地？他们的肥料来自哪里？他们怎样将其产品推向市场？除非你先很好的解决了这些问题，才能将他变成“第一世界国家”。这就是为什么中国不被认为是第一世界国家。

Halfmoonhero
Actually no I don't think we will believe you.

事实上我不认为我们应该相信你。

[dexed]
Bruh I've had dinner with "middle-class" Chinese families in the suburbs in Tianjin. I had to take a shit in a hole in the ground all the while looking up trying not to get murdered by the hornets who built a nest there. 10 people in an area no bigger than what a western country would normally grant to 2 people to live on.

布鲁，我曾与住在天津郊区的中国“中产阶级”家庭共进晚餐，我不得不往地上的一个洞里大便，时刻警惕着以防被那里筑巢的黄蜂谋杀。他们10个人住的地方比西方国家通常允许2个人住的面积还要小。

FileError214
Hahahahahahahaha.
This actually helps me believe that you're a real albeit absolutely insane person rather than a wumao.
Not even a wumao is brazen enough to say the Chinese countryside is nicer than America.

哈哈哈哈哈。
这让我真的确定你只是一个蠢货而不是五毛。
即使是五毛党脸皮也不会厚到说中国农村比美国好。

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komnenos
Are you trolling? Are you even from the US? As an American with loads of family in rural areas who has also visited rural Shandong Fujian and Zhejiang I strongly disagree with that statement. Last time I checked the rural population in America didn't need to work as near slave labor thousands of miles away 330+ days a year in sweatshops.

你是来钓鱼的吧？你真的是美国人吗？作为一个有很多农村亲戚，还访问了山东、福建和浙江的美国人，我强烈反对这种说法。据我最新掌握的资料显示，美国市农村居民不需要像奴隶一样在数千英里之外的血汗工厂一年工作330天以上。

[dexed]
Dude I can take you to neighbourhoods in tier 2 Nanjing where the houses have no indoor plumbing.
There were people in Dalian still driving donkey carts around the city when I was last there.
There is a very large disparity between what one sees walking around the cities and what some sections of Chinese society live in.

伙计，我可以带你去南京二环的住宅区，那里的房子没有室内管道。
上次我在大连的时候，城郊还有人赶着驴车呢。
人们在城市里所看到的与中国社会其他某些地方之间存在着很大的差异。

[dexed]
True Chinese peasants live wonderful lives. Lots of social activities in between hard working jobs good and cheap booze and tobacco wonderful food instead of that 'Murican greasy stuff. Cheap motorcycles to go around. And Taobao reaches them anywhere now.
No joke great lives.

真正的中国农民过着美好的生活。在努力工作的间隙有很多社会活动，有又好又便宜的烟酒，美妙的食物而不是美国油腻的垃圾食品。（他们有）便宜的摩托可以到处兜风，而现在淘宝可以到达任何他们所在的地方。
不开玩笑，这是多么美好的生活啊。

caucasianchinastrug
You havent visited china before. You are either a troll or a retard beliwving in transrace

你肯定没去过中国。你要么是在钓鱼要么是个相信宣传的傻子。

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tru_katana_samurai22
I have. It is much more developed than the U.S. China has high speed trains. Can you say the same about the U.S.?

我可以作证。中国比美国发达。中国有高铁，美国有这个吗？

caucasianchinastrug
No you havent. You are just a troll or moron

你走开，你要么是在钓鱼要么是个白痴。

Mr_Bakgwei
Obvious troll is obvious. Can't believe so many people biting on this.

显然这是个钩咸饵直的钓鱼党。不敢相信这么多人都咬钩了。

FileError21 
This is really conflicting - personally I think OP is just incredibly stupid.

这真的让人困惑——我个人认为层主就是个傻逼。

proletariatnumber23 
I'm a simple man I see a post by tru_katana_samurai22 and downvote

我是个单纯的人，看了tru_katana_samurai22（层主）的回答后默默点了个踩。

ArcboundChampion
Seriously I wasn't sure this was a troll until I saw the OP's name. Ultra troll.

说真的我不确定这是在钓鱼直到我看到层主的名字。钩咸饵直。（tru_katana_samurai22=真日本武士刀22？）

Halfmoonhero
You know China still has over 100 million people in extreme poverty right?

你知道中国仍有超过1亿人在极端贫困中吗？

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cmilkrun
If you think everyone in China lives like first world people you gotta get outside of the city center. It turns into run down villages and even further into the rural areas very poor very fast.

如果你觉得所有中国人都像第一世界国家的人那么生活的话，你应该离开市中心，很快你将看到破败的城镇，以及更加贫穷的农村地区。

play_better
I don't know why you come up with that conclusion at all. HDI wise China is even worse than Russia.

我完全不明白你是怎么得出结论的。中国的人类发展指数排名比俄罗斯还低。

It_was_him_not_me
China cannot be compared to the United States smaller military smaller economy. They will need atleast 20 years to even match us and even then I doubt their military will be on par.

中国并不能与美国相提并论，军事和经济相比都要弱。他们至少需要20年来赶上我们，而即使到那是我依然怀疑他们的军事实力是否赶得上。

TrumpsYugeSchlong
I think the defining thing between 1st/3rd world is being able to drink the tap water.

我认为区别第一/第三世界的决定性因素是是否有可直饮的自来水。