【红迪 Reddit】在中国的老外问:如何在中国结交朋友? [美国媒体]

几个月前我搬到中国学习。我已经有机会见到一些中国人,但我们从来没有真正有更长的互动或更紧密的关系。我在这里结识的大多数新朋友都是像我这样的外国人,来自同一个大学。我注意到要让中国人更好地了解我真的很难。他们非常保守,非常忙(我理解)。他们保持自己的封闭圈子,几乎从不主动与外国人在一起......

How to make Chinese friends in China?

如何在中国结交朋友?



Blckclaw
Hello.
I moved to China a few months ago to study. I already had the opportunity to meet some Chinese people, but we never really had longer interactions or stronger relations. Most new friends I got here are foreigners like myself, from the same uni.

几个月前我搬到中国学习。我已经有机会见到一些中国人,但我们从来没有真正有更长的互动或更紧密的关系。我在这里结识的大多数新朋友都是像我这样的外国人,来自同一个大学。

I noticed it really hard to get Chinese people to know better. The are very reserved, extremely busy (which I understand) . They keep to their own, closed circles and hardly have any initiative to hang out with foreigners.

我注意到要让中国人更好地了解我真的很难。他们非常保守,非常忙(我理解)。他们保持自己的封闭圈子,几乎从不主动与外国人在一起。

I didn't realize it would be so hard to make some Chinese friends, while I'm living here, in China. Especially that I speak pretty good Mandarin and I'm able to communicate with them without many problems.

我没想到,在中国生活的时候,结交一些中国朋友是如此困难。尤其是,我的普通话说得很好,而且我能和他们交流,并没什么问题。

I tried University's associations and clubs, but they are usually reserved for Chinese students, not foreigners. Also, there are no events (in my Uni) for Chinese students and abroad students to hang out.

我尝试过大学的社团和俱乐部,但它们通常是专为中国学生而不是外国人而设的。此外,(在我的大学)没有什么活动让中国学生和外国学生在一起。

How do you make Chinese friends? I would really like to have good Chinese friends, not only to practice Mandarin, but also, to discover their culture (especially modern culture, which I want to research). I'm considering some apps, but what comes to my mind are dating apps like Tinder or Tantan.

你是如何结交中国朋友的?我非常希望有个要好的中国朋友,不仅能练习普通话,而且想了解他们的文化(特别是现代文化,我想研究一下)。我正在考虑一些应用程序,但我想到的是约会应用,如Tinder或探探。

Can someone share some advice, or recommendations? I'm here until summer and I would be really disappointed if I left China without making strong friendships with local people...


有人能分享一些建议或意见吗?我会一直呆到夏天,如果我离开中国而没有和当地人建立深厚的友谊,我会感到非常失望的...

I live in Guangzhou.
Blckclaw:

我住在广州。



stegg88
I made my best chinese buddies who were genuine through a board game shop. point being, find a hobby, preferably a group hobby of course, make friends through this, I suggest a dance class, yoga, martial arts or boardgames

我和我最好的中国朋友在一家桌游店里认识的。重点是,找一种爱好,当然最好是集体爱好,通过这个结交朋友,我建议上舞蹈课,瑜伽,武术或桌面游戏。

OklahomaJimmy
And if you think hobbies are gay, bond with people over making fun of board game people.

如果你认为你的爱好是搞基,那就和人们一起玩游戏吧。

Playapan
1.Send hongbao      

发红包

2.Invite to KTV and drink baijiu  

邀请他们去KTV,喝白酒

3.Play LoL/PUBG/CF/DoTA   

玩撸啊撸/吃鸡/CF/刀塔

kali_yuga_a_gogo
What a culture!

这习俗有意思!

Blckclaw
1.Why would I send hongbao to random people.
2. I think you have to have at least a group to to KTV.
3.I actually want to try PUBG but haven't met any gamers. What's CF?

1、为什么我要把红包发给随机的人。
2、我认为去KTV至少得是一群人吧
3、我实际上想尝试一下PUBG(吃鸡),但没有遇到任何游戏玩家。还有,CF是什么?

wtiam
crossfire  穿越火线

fungal_misdirection
You can solo KTV.   

你可以独自KTV

metalgearex
you're asking too many dumb questions, china isn't for you.

你问了太多愚蠢的问题,中国不适合你。

FondFondler
join the /r/china 

加 /r/china区

Polypinoon
1.Tell them Taiwan is a beautiful country.
2.Tell them you think Tibet should be an independent country.
3.Tell them the Chinese Communist Party are mass murderers.
If they can accept you saying all three of these things, hold on to that Chinese person as they are open to criticism and a lot more interesting to hang out with than the average zhou.

1、告诉他们台湾是一个美丽的国家。
2、告诉他们你认为XZ应该是一个独立的国家。
3、告诉他们TG是刽子手。

如果他们能接受你所说的这三件事,那就抓住那个中国人,因为他对批评持开放态度,比普通中国人有意思多了。

【译注:"The average Zhou" 类似 "The average Joe". 普通周,普通乔,意思是普通中国人,来源于Reddit CCJ区。。有嘲弄的意思,后话太多,大家知道表示普通中国人就成了。。。 】

wtiam
what color are you? Also, okcJimmy is giving some good points in his comments, listen to the guy

你神马肤色?楼上的okcJimmy给了一些不错的建议,听那家伙的(基佬的)。【译注:这里是双关, guy,gay 。。。因为那个okcJimmy在说搞基】

chanhyuk
Your post history hints that the problem might be you and not them. Regardless, I will try not too judge much.
1.English corner. I don't really need to say much about this. It's a corner where people practice their English. Don't be afraid to ask for Wechats.
2.The school clubs.

看你发的帖,问题应该在你不在他们,不管怎样,我尽量不做太多评判。
1、英语角   关于这地方不用我说太多吧,这是一个人们练习英语的地方。不要害怕问微信。
2、学校俱乐部

”they are usually reserved for Chinese students, not foreigners“
No they aren't. I know every school is different but I never heard of this. I feel like you are just going by hearsay and didn't bother checking out the clubs. I joined the calligraphy and dance club but I had many other clubs wanting me to join. This is one of the best ways to make friends.

你说 ”他们通常只留给中国学生,而不是外国人。“
——不,他们不是,我知道每一所学校都是不同的,但我从未听说过这种说法。我觉得你只是在说一些传闻,而没有去体验过俱乐部。我加入了书法和舞蹈俱乐部,还有许多其他的俱乐部想要我加入,这是交朋友的最好方法之一。

1.Multicultural Day. Most schools have some event where the foreign students show off the culture of their home cultures. Great way to meet people.
2.Friends of friends. Not much needs to be said.
3.In your dormitory. Wave to people in your area. Eventually you will start noticing familiar faces. Once you are comfortable feel free to go up to them.
4.The halal canteen. I made a couple Hui and Xinjiang friends by constantly eating here.
5.The local bar. Don't come by yourself, that will be a little weird. Come with a foreign or Chinese friend.
6. The wangba. Not honestly a good option in my opinion because many people there are stuck in their own little world. Will likely ignore you. Worth a shot though.
7.Apps. This is more for females or gay males instead of friends. I haven't had much success with these.

1、多元文化日 大多数学校都有一些活动,外国学生在这里展示他们的本国文化。认识人的好方法。
2、朋友的朋友   这个不需要我说太多吧
3、清真食堂  我经常在这里吃东西,在这里交了几个回族和新疆的朋友。
4、本地酒吧  别自己一个人来,会有点奇怪,和外国朋友或中国朋友一起来。
5、你的宿舍 向你所在区的人挥手致意,最终你会发现熟悉的面孔,一旦你感觉不错,就可以开始交盆友了
6、网吧    在我看来,这并不是一个好的选择,因为很多人都被困在自己的小世界里,可能会忽略你,但值得一试。
7、手机应用  这更多的是针对女性或男同而不是朋友,这个我没怎么成功过。

NthSax
Zoloft, Paroxetine, Wellburtrin

左洛复,帕罗西汀, Wellburtrin   【译注:。。。都是抗抑郁药名】

vicklau
I myself was raised in a family with my parents of different ethnicities (Chinese / American) and am familiar and live long to tell why and what people from the anglo-saxon cultures (US/UK/Aus) find it hard to understand and grasp about how the Chinese think. For any "expat" studying, living or doing business in China, there perhaps is not that much time for you to be immersed in the country to get that enlightenment - and you would hope there is some sort of shortcut or crash course to take. You may not find this piece of advice elsewhere behind China's Great Wall of censorship on the web, but I would suggest you read some introductory text - fair and plain ones that even a kid could understand - about the politics of China, which literally governs everything happening in China and people behave. You may wish to have a look at this recent book (https://www.amazon.com/Jinpings-Develop-Socialism-Chinese-Characteristics-ebook/dp/B077KCDFFK) which you may also grab from a main bookstore chain and can finish it within an hour to get a general idea of what Chinese people values.

我本人是在一个父母不同种族(中国/美国)的家庭中长大的,我很熟悉,很难告诉你为什么那些来自盎格鲁撒克逊文化的人无法理解和掌握中国人的思维方式。对于任何在中国学习、生活或经商的“外籍人士”来说,你可能没有那么多的时间沉浸在这个国家中去接受这种启示--你会希望有某种捷径或速成班可以走。在中国的GFW后面,你可能找不到这条建议,但我建议你读一些介绍性的文章--甚至连孩子都能理解的--介绍中国的政治。中国的政治实际上支配着中国发生的一切事情,包括人们的行为举止也是如此。你可能想看看这本最新的书,你也可以从连锁书店买这本书,可以在一小时内就能读完它,对中国人的价值观有个大致的了解。

Smirth
“can finish it within an hour to get a general idea of what Chinese people values.”
Maybe I can save 59 minutes. Is it face and money?

“可以在一小时内就能读完它,对中国人的价值观有个大致的了解。”
也许我可以节省59分钟(1分钟就够了),(中国人的价值观)是面子和钱对吧 ?

perkinsonline
If you're white you won't need pointers...they'll stick to u

如果你是白人,你就不需要指点...他们会粘着你

HaiNiu
Tell them how much money your family has!

告诉他们你家有多少钱!

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