（二战期间的）德国妇女对美军友好吗？ [美国媒体]

Were German women friendly to American troops?

（二战期间的）德国妇女对美军友好吗？

After Germany was beaten down, German women had two choices: suck up to Americans or be raped by Russians. There were no other choices. Did they genuinely like being ravaged by the enemy? No. But which of the two choices presented to an 8 year old girl or and 80 year old woman would you suggest they take with your perfect hindsight?

德国被击败后，他们的妇女只剩下两个选择：跪舔美国人，或者被俄国人强奸。没有其他选择了。她们真的喜欢被敌人蹂躏吗？不是的。但当这两种选择摆在一个8岁的女孩或80岁的女人面前时，你能指望她们从你完美的后知后觉中得到什么吗？

'They raped every German female from eight to 80'
The War crimes of Russian army: They Raped Every German Female from the ages of 8 to 80
Rape during the occupation of Germany - Wikipedia
Harrowing Memoir: German Woman Writes Ground-Breaking Account of WW2 Rape - SPIEGEL ONLINE - International
German victim is first to break silence on Red Army rapists after 65 years

下面的原文链接：
“他们从8岁到80岁之间强奸了每一个德国女性”
俄国军队的战争罪行：他们强奸了每一个8至80岁的德国女性
占领德国期间的强奸-维基百科
令人痛心的回忆录：德国女人写书记述第二次世界大战强奸案-明镜在线-国际
德国受害者65年后首次打破对红军强奸犯的沉默









Laslo Kovacs, B.A History & Education, Brooklyn College
Answered Jul 1 2017 · Author has 1.8k answers and 440.6k answer views
It was a tricky business for German women, but given that many were desperate for food and protection, and given that most likely their husbands or boyfriends were never coming home again, finding a friendly GI for either temporary comfort and protection, or even for marriage, was a pretty easy choice to make.

科瓦克斯，布鲁克林学院历史与教育学士
这件事对德国妇女来说相当的棘手，但考虑到许多人迫切需要食物和保护，而且考虑到她们的丈夫或男友很可能再也不会回家了，为了暂时的舒适和保护，甚至是为了婚姻，去找一个友好的美国士兵并不是个很难做出的选择。

Of course, there were consequences at time. Some GIs and their German girl friends were attacked in public by German men.

当然，有时也会有后果。一些美国士兵和他们的德国女友在公开场合遭到德国男子的袭击。

The best choice for a German woman was to find the protection of an American or British officer.

对德国妇女来说，最好的选择是寻求美国或英国军官的保护。

Many German women suffered a grim fate. While it’s true that many of them gleefully saluted their Fuhrer a few years earlier, I think for others the payback was rather harsh indeed.

许多德国妇女遭受了严峻的命运。虽然她们中的许多人确实在几年前兴高采烈地向元首致敬，但我认为对其他人来说，回报确实相当苛刻。

We have some films about this, from American photographers, and they’re interesting. In some cases, Americans are warned in training films not to “fraternize with the enemy—Germans are not your friend!” but….lots of luck enforcing THAT. Other films do show German women clearing streets and expressing their dislike of being filmed, with some rather rude gestures. Some just hide their faces.

我们有一些关于这个的电影，来自美国摄影师，它们很有趣。在某些情况下，美国人在训练影片中被警告不要“与敌人友好-德国人不是你的朋友”。 “！”但是……真幸运。还有一些电影确实展示了德国女性是如何清理街道，并以一种相当粗鲁的手势表达出她们不喜欢被这样拍摄的情绪。有些人只是简单的把脸藏起来。

David Jordan, studied at University of California, Berkeley
Answered Jul 1 2017 · Author has 429 answers and 444.6k answer views
Yes, many were. In Colonel David Hackworth’s autobiography, About Face, he recounts in passing stories of many US GIs in the occupation forces who were (how should I put this?) “romantically ambitious” and easily found and maintained two or more girlfriends. (Hackworth even tells the story of one GI who tossed flyers from a small airplane or helicopter with his name and contact information to attract more possibilities, before the GI’s CO put a stop to it.) And there were apparently a large number of marriages resulting from the situation.

大卫·乔丹，就读于加州大学伯克利分校
是的，很多都是。在戴维-哈克沃思上校的自传“彻底改变”中，他讲述了许多美军在占领军中的故事，他们的这种(哦，我该怎么描述这种东西？)“浪漫的野心？” “而且很容易找到和维持两个或更多的女朋友。(哈克沃思甚至讲述了一个士兵的故事，在被一个美军指挥官阻止之前，他从一架小型飞机或直升机上抛出写有自己名字和联系方式的传单，以此吸引获得更大的可能性（认识更多德国女人）。而且显然有大量的婚姻是由这种情况造成的。

You have to recognize a few factors. With all the battlefield deaths, especially on the Eastern Front, the German male-to-female ratio was severely skewed. There were some rapes committed by GIs, but nowhere near as many as in the area occupied by the Soviet army, so there was considerably less anger and hatred between the German population and the occupying force. Further, for at least a couple years starvation was widespread in Germany, so many German women took whatever assistance they could find. Lastly, the American government and some civilian charitable groups sent food to Germany to ease the starvation and we took steps to help the Germans rebuild their nation.

你必须认识到几个因素。伴随着战场上的死亡，尤其是东线士兵的阵亡，德国男女比例严重失调。美军制造了一些强奸案，但与苏联军队占领的地区相比，德国人民和占领军之间的愤怒和仇恨要少得多。此外，至少有几年来，德国普遍存在饥饿现象，因此许多德国妇女接受了她们所能找到的一切援助。最后，美国政府和一些民间慈善团体向德国送去了食物。我们采取措施帮助德国人重建他们的国家。

I've read, possibly right here on Quora, that a similar situation obtained earlier while the war was still in progress, between POWs of the western allies of enlisted rank and German women. The Germans observed the Geneva Convention regarding soldiers of the western militaries, which allows using enlisted POWs for nonmilitary employment, often farm work. The GI would find himself alone with the home front woman managing the family farm, one thing would lead to another, and ….

我曾经在某个地方读到过，或许就是在Quora上吧。在战争还在进行的时候，在西方盟国战俘和德国妇女之间也有类似的情况。德国人遵守了关于西方军队士兵的日内瓦公约，该公约允许使用战俘从事非军事工作，通常是农活。美国士兵会发现自己是孤身一人和那些丈夫身在前线的家庭妇女管理家庭农场，一件事会导致另一件事，然后…

Regarding Hackworth’s book, I strongly recommend it. He was an intelligent man and tells a lot of interesting stories. He was the consummate soldier who served in Korea and Vietnam, and spoke out against the War in Vietnam while still in uniform. Regarding the title, it self-acknowledges Hackworth’s personal change from a highly decorated combat soldier (with, IIRC, eighty-five medals for courage under fire) to one against the War in Vietnam, particularly the inept way he believed it was being conducted, and an antinuclear activist). FWIW, I've heard this referred to in spiritual circles as “an extreme turning to its opposite,” although later in his life he acted as a journalist, and visited and gave moral support to American troops in combat areas.

我强烈推荐哈克沃思的书。他是个聪明人，讲述了许多有趣的故事。他是在朝鲜和越南服役的最优秀的士兵，他在还穿着制服的时候就公开反对越战。这个头衔证明了哈克沃思的个人经历，从一名被授予荣誉勋章的战斗士兵(通过在炮火下战斗而拥有八十五枚英勇勋章)转变为一名反对越南战争的战士，他认为这是美国正在进行中的无能的方式，此外，他还是一名反核活动人士)
不论真伪，我听说在精神圈子里有这样的说法：物极必反。“尽管在他的生命后期，他作为一名记者，造访美军的战斗地区并给予美国军队道义上的支持。

Akshaj Budakoti, History buff & a political analyst.
Answered Dec 17 2017 · Author has 204 answers and 263.6k answer views
No.
Ever heard about the mass rape in Germany done by American and Soviet troops?
One of the most famous cases is the mass rape in Berlin.

阿克沙伊·布达科蒂，历史爱好者&一位政治分析家。
你有听说过美国和苏联军队在德国实施的大规模强奸吗？最着名的案件之一是柏林的大规模强奸。





Apparently when the soviet troops arrived in Berlin (followed by American troops) they raped most of the females in Berlin aging from 10 to 60. And that’s just the situation in Berlin.

很明显，当苏联军队到达柏林时(随后是美军)，他们强奸了柏林的大部分女性，年龄从10岁到60岁不等。柏林的情况就是这样。

Some girls were raped more than 10 times in a single day. Even many young women soldiers and medical staff in the Red Army did not appear to disapprove. "Our soldiers' behaviour towards Germans, particularly German women, is absolutely correct!" said a 21-year-old from Agranenko's reconnaissance detachment.

一些女孩在一天之内被强奸超过10次。即使是红军的许多年轻女兵和医务人员似乎对此也并不反对。““我们的士兵对德国人的行为，特别是对德国妇女的态度是绝对正确的！”一名21岁的阿格拉嫩科侦察分队的队员说。

Though to be fair much of the rapes were done by the soviets but still at least half of the American troops also participated in the gang rapes through out Germany. American media makes it seem like ALL of the rapes were done only and only by the soviet troops whereas American troops were being all nice and friendly to the Germans. Though evidence says that there wasn’t much difference in terms of war crimes committed between East and West Germany following post world war.

尽管公平地说，大部分强奸是苏联所为，但至少有一半的美军也参与了在德国的轮奸。美国媒体让它看起来就像是所有的强奸都是苏联军队做的，而美国军队对德国人十分友好一样。尽管有证据表明，战后东德和西德之间的战争罪行并没有太大的差别。

The rapes had affected women in households across Berlin. A German survivor Ingeborg Bullert recalls that women between the ages of 15 and 55 were ordered to get tested for sexually transmitted diseases. "You needed the medical certificate to get the food stamps and I remember that all the doctors doing these certificates, had waiting rooms full of women."

强奸影响了柏林各地家庭中的妇女。一名德国幸存者英格伯格·布勒特回忆说，15至55岁的妇女被命令接受性传播疾病检测。“你需要医疗证明才能拿到食品券，我记得所有做这些证明的医生他们的候诊室里都满是女人。”

What was the scale of the rapes? The most often quoted number is a staggering 100,000 women in Berlin and two million on German territory. That figure - hotly debated - was extrapolated from scant surviving medical records.

强奸的规模是多少？最常被引用的数字是柏林惊人的10万妇女和德国全国领土上的二百万。这个激烈争论的数字是从保存很少的地方医疗记录中推断出来的。

Some victims reports even claim that American soldiers participated in upto 190,000 rapes during the Germany invasion and in the US occupied West Germany. Most of the assaults taking place in months immediately following the the US invasion of Nazi germany. There was also a fake propaganda that the German women were attracted to American GI’s further encouraging the behaviour.

一些受害者甚至声称，美国士兵在德国入侵期间和美国占领西德期间参与了多达190000起强奸事件。大多数袭击发生在美国刚刚入侵德国的几个月之内。还有一种虚假的宣传说，德国妇女被美国士兵进一步鼓励这种行为。

Also It's hard to find direct evidence of how the German soldiers treated Russian women - many victims never survived - but in the German-Russian Museum in Berlin, director Jorg Morre showed a photograph to a BBC news reporter taken in Crimea from a German soldier's personal wartime album. A woman's corpse is sprawled on the ground.

此外，很难找到德国士兵如何对待俄罗斯妇女的直接证据--许多受害者都没活下来--但在柏林的德——俄博物馆，导演乔格·莫雷在克里米亚向BBC记者展示了一张来自德国士兵战时个人相册的照片。一具女人的尸体被摊在地上。

"It looks like she was killed by raping, or after the rape. Her skirt is pulled up and the hands are in front of the face," he says.

看起来她是被强奸杀害的，或者是在强奸之后被杀的。她的裙子被拉了起来，双手在脸前，“他说。

During world war 2, a lot of war crimes happened. And America, Germany and Soviet Russia are all guilty of committing tons of war crimes but American outlook that all the crimes were committed by Russians isn’t right. Their soldiers too were guilty.
All many western media outlets reports that German people welcomed the allied warmly are mostly bullshit. Western media is pretty good at blaming other countries for the crimes they committed. No country would welcome another countries troops when they come marching down into their city.

在第二次世界大战期间，发生了许多战争罪行。美国、德国和苏联都犯有大量战争罪，但美国人认为所有罪行都是俄国人犯下的。 我认为这种说法是不对的。他们的士兵也有罪。许多西方媒体报道中说德国人热烈欢迎盟军的内容大多都是胡说八道。西方媒体非常善于指责其他国家所犯下的罪行。没有一个国家会欢迎其他国家的军队进入他们自己的城市。

But it’s always the winners who writes history.

但历史永远都是赢家写的。

Jens Böttiger, I'm German
Answered Dec 11 2017 · Author has 1.5k answers and 5.6m answer views
German women were starving after WW2 as the currency entirely lost its value and the country was rubble. I don’t know about the whole country, but in the French occupation zone, Allied troops went from house to house and destroyed people’s private food stores before the winter of 1946.

延斯·博特虎，我是德国人
二战后，德国妇女忍饥挨饿，因为货币完全贬值，整个国家都变成了废墟。我不知道整个国家的情况，但在法国的占领区，盟军在1946年冬天之前挨家挨户地摧毁了当地居民的的私人食品店。

It was part of a plan to prevent an uprising by starving people until they were physically too weak to resist.

这是一项计划的一部分，目的是防止饥饿的人们起义，直到他们身体虚弱到完全无法抵抗为止。

The average food consumption of Germans during this time was 1000 calories a day. Try living on that for a month. If you manage, try doing it for 6 during a cold winter without any heating.

在此期间，德国人的平均食物消费量为每天1000卡路里。试着用这样的标准生活上一个月。如果你还能做到，那就试着在寒冷的冬天不取暖的情况下重复做上6次。

In the cities where people couldn’t grow any food, many women and young girls sold themselves to American (and other Allied) troops for food for themselves or their children on a daily basis. The most successful ones became mistresses or war brides. The same happened in Italy to a degree.

在那些人们无法种植任何食物的城市，许多妇女和女孩每天都把自己卖给美国(和其他盟军)军队，以此为自己或孩子提供食物。那些干这个最成功的人都变成了情妇或战争新娘。同样的情况在意大利也有一定程度的发生。

Some widows permanently abandoned their children to become war brides. I have met some of those children.

一些寡妇为了成为战争新娘而永久地抛弃了她们的孩子。我就见过其中一些孩子。

These women were shunned by German society during and afterward.
I wouldn’t call it “friendliness”. It was survival. Exploitation of women and girls’ survival instinct to extort sex.
Any modern liberal would be more than comfortable calling it mass rape, followed by Stockholm syndrome.

这些妇女在之后的德国社会中被排斥。我不会认为这是什么“友好”。这是生存。剥削妇女和女孩的生存本能，敲诈性行为。任何现代自由主义者都会认为这是大规模强奸，其次是斯德哥尔摩综合症。

Of course you won’t find people complaining, because if those soldiers had had more integrity, those women and girls would have simply died instead.

当然，你不会发现有人抱怨，因为如果那些士兵更正直，那些妇女和女孩就会简单地死去。

Umberto Feinauer, lives in Innsbruck, Austria
Updated Dec 16 2017
The real question is: “Were American troops friendly to German women?”
And the sure answer to that question is “no”.
When US soldiers arrived in Germany, they were walking down the street with placards on which they had written: "Willst du mit mir schlafen" (Do you want to sleep with me) or "Schlaf mit mir" (Sleep with me).
The local population was horrified!
Of course, it is well-known the Soviets were not any better! ⬇️

翁贝托·费纳，住在奥地利因斯布鲁克
真正的问题是：“美国军队对德国妇女友好吗？”对这个问题的肯定答案是“不”.当美国士兵到达德国时，他们在街上举着标语牌走着,上面写道：“Willst du MIT mir schlafen”(你想和我上床吗)或“Schlaf MIT mir” (和我在一起)。当地居民都吓坏了！当然，众所周知的是，苏联人并没有表现的比这更好！⬇

Thomas Washington, 30 years in the US Army Enlisted and Officer.
Answered Jul 1 2017 · Author has 141 answers and 58.6k answer views
Quick answer. Yes. There were a lot of German war brides. i.e. German women who married US Soldiers who were stationed in Germany. Although we certainly had a share of jerks who took advantage of their “conquering hero” position, the vast majority behaved themselves. They had access to food, cigarettes, coffee that Germans had not seen for years. This enabled them to build friendships that became relationships and often ended in marriage.

托马斯·华盛顿，在美国陆军服役30年，同时也是军官。
快速回答这个问题。是的。德国有很多战争新娘，即与驻扎在德国的美国士兵结婚的德国妇女。虽然我们肯定有一些混蛋利用了他们的优势 在“征服英雄”的立场上，绝大多数人都表现得很好。他们有机会获得德国人多年没有看到的食物、香烟和咖啡。这使得他们能够建立起友谊，这种友谊变成了关系，并往往以婚姻的形式告终。

Nabiul Akhtar, Financial Analyst at L&T Technology Services (2012-present)
Answered Dec 14, 2017
Short answer no.usa was not friendly towards germany.tgey bombed them and killed them later rape their woman aged 8–20 years old for upto 30 times.they raped daughter infront of their mother and vice versa.after returning from war American soldier were so depressed because of the crime they had committed towards german civilian and army.that is how motorcycle club was formed in order to overcome this depression.this is one the black history of american troops that no one bother to tell.

简单的回答是，美国对德国并不友好，他轰炸了他们，然后杀了他们，然后强奸了年龄在8-20岁的女人长达30次，他他们强奸了母亲的女儿，反之亦然。 战争归来后，美国士兵因为对德国平民和军人犯下的罪行而感到非常沮丧。摩托车俱乐部就是是为克服这种沮丧而成立的，这是美国军队的黑历史，没人会费心去说。

Bryan Reo, Read 100s of history books, mostly Rome, WW2, and Cold War
Answered Dec 11, 2017 · Author has 567 answers and 106.5k answer views
It depends on whether you regard being raped en masse as friendly.
Americans herded several million German POWs into open air concentration camps, basically fields with razor wire, starved a lot of them, and starved the women in the cities. Women wiling to sell their bodies to the Americans were paid with food.
Most people would rightly consider that rape.

这取决于你是否认为被强奸是友好的。美国人把几百万名德国战俘赶进露天集中营，基本上是用刺刀围起来的田地。他们故意让许多人挨饿，让城市里的妇女挨饿。女人愿意通过出卖肉体来向美国人领取食品。
大多数人认为强奸是正确的。

The only thing in the favor of the Americans is that they didn't butcher and mutilate the women after raping them as was the case with many Soviet units in April and May of 1945.

唯一对美国人有利的是，他们在强奸妇女之后并没有屠杀和残害妇女，就如4月和1945年5月许多苏联部队的情况一样。

Niklaus Hostettler
Answered Dec 27, 2017 · Author has 522 answers and 205.8k answer views
I had family that lived in Paris during the occupation. Women were not harassed and were able to move around freely, not to say that there were no incidences. When the Americans were there, many business setup up beds for the women to sleep for going home, except during day time, was not safe.

尼克劳斯·霍斯特特勒
我的家人在占领期间住在巴黎。妇女没有受到骚扰，能够自由走动，更不用说没有任何意外事件。当美国人在那里的时候，除白天外，很多的企业都会为妇女准备睡觉的床位，因为外面是不安全的。

Guess you can imagine how it was in Germany where there every essential necessity was in short supply.

你可以想象，在德国，一切必需品都供应不足。

Jan Meyer, studied History & English at University of Münster
Answered Dec 11, 2017 · Author has 3k answers and 1.3m answer views
Some were.
Some needed food (Germans got little over starvation rations after the war) and were willing to prostitute themselves for food.
Some got raped and where left with food because then the American soldier could pretend it was not rape.

扬·迈耶，我在明斯特大学学习历史和英语
有些是。有些人需要食物(战后，德国人几乎能足够吃的饱的口粮)，她们愿意通过出卖自己来换取食物。有些人被强奸了，然后得到了地上留下的食物，因为这样那名美国士兵就可以假装这不是强奸。