美国官员称2016年总统大选投票系统遭到了俄罗斯黑客的入侵 [美国媒体]

Russians penetrated U.S. voter systems, top U.S. official says

美国官员称2016年总统大选投票系统遭到了俄罗斯黑客的入侵



The U.S. official in charge of protecting American elections from hacking says the Russians successfully penetrated the voter registration rolls of several U.S. states prior to the 2016 presidential election.

负责保护美国选举免受黑客攻击的美国官员表示，在2016美国总统选举之前，俄罗斯已成功地入侵了美国几个州的选民登记系统。

In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Jeanette Manfra, the head of cybersecurity at the Department of Homeland Security, said she couldn't talk about classified information publicly, but in 2016, "We saw a targeting of 21 states and an exceptionally small number of them were actually successfully penetrated."

在接受NBC新闻的独家专访时，美国国土安全部的网络安全和通信事务主管Jeanette Manfra表示她不能在公开场合谈论涉密信息，但是在2016年，“我们发现了一个针对美国21个州的黑客入侵，而且实际上其中极小的一部分入侵是成功的。”

Jeh Johnson, who was DHS secretary during the Russian intrusions, said, "2016 was a wake-up call and now it's incumbent upon states and the Feds to do something about it before our democracy is attacked again."

在俄罗斯黑客入侵期间担任美国国土安全部部长的Jeh Johnson说：“2016年给我们敲响了警钟，在我们的民主再次遭受袭击之前，现在各州和联邦政府应该义不容辞地对此做点什么。”




bcdfg
Norway have paper ballots, but machine counts them for speedy results.
As the counting machines can get hacked, all votes are hand counted afterwards just to ensure no fiddling has happened.

挪威有纸质选票，但是机器计数能快速得到结果。
因为计数机可能被黑客攻击，所以之后全部的选票都是手算的，确保没有人能做手脚。

morpheusmade 
This is how Minnesota does it too, it should be standardized

明尼苏达州也是这么做的，这种做法应该普及。

Feared77 
Minnesota is the most underrated state honestly. It’s doing so much right with very little notice

老实说，明尼苏达是最被低估的州了。它在别人不注意的时候做了这么多正确的事情。

redditingtonviking 
Well Minnesota is probably the most Norwegian state.

好吧，明尼苏达州可能是最像挪威那样清廉的州了。

Oryx
There is no evidence that any of the registration rolls were altered in any fashion, according to U.S. officials.
So wait: Russians successfully penetrated into some election systems... and then did nothing? It was all just to see if they could do it for shits and giggles...? Seriously?

据美国官员说，没有证据表明有哪个投票登记被以任何方式进行了修改。
所以，等下，俄罗斯人成功地入侵了一些投票系统，然后什么也没做？就只是为了看看他们能不能入侵成功？认真的吗？

seriously_taken 
The rest of the report is classified. Mainly because it’s being used as evidence in an ongoing investigation.

报告的其余部分被保密了。主要是因为其余部分在正进行的调查中被用作证据。

BlatantConservative 
This sliding scale of what happened is ridiculous.
Russia tried but it didn't work. Oh wait Russia hacked a campaign office, but nothing important. Oh wait they penetrated everything in the DNC and RNC and retrieved several hundred thousand emails, but the voting was secure. Oh wait they tried to hack 39 state voting systems but nothing was compromised.

发生这种事情太荒谬了。
俄罗斯试图入侵投票系统，但没有成功。
哦，等等，俄罗斯入侵了一个竞选办公室，但那没什么重要的。
哦，等等，他们完全入侵了民主党全国委员会和共和党全国委员会，检索了几十万封电子邮件，但是投票系统是安全的。
哦，等等，他们入侵了39个州的投票系统，但是没有任何信息泄露。

fisga
Nobody is investigating it because those with power to order an investigation will be seen as incompetent and negligent for having insecure voting systems.
It is like expecting the police to investigate itself for corruption. Seriously!

没有人在调查这个问题，因为那些有权下令调查的人对投票系统存在隐患的态度是不作为和疏忽的。
这就像期待警察调查自身的腐败。搞笑吧！

findandwrite
I mean this is like that guy that said for years that the CIA was listening to your calls and everyone LAUGHED at him for suggesting something so preposterous. Then one day, everyone suddenly started talking like it was obvious that the CIA was taping phone lines the whole time.
For Christ sake, the dude the MADE the fucking machines testified that they were outrageously vulnerable to fraud like 15 years ago when Bush was elected but everyone acted like he was a kook.
Now suddenly everyone is up in arms and can't believe something like this would happen and the 'ol Unites States of America!?!?
Go ahead and share this on facebook, bitch for a few days and forget about it. Thats activism in america.

这就像几年前有个人说中央情报局一直在监听你的电话，但是每个人都在嘲笑他提出了如此荒谬可笑的事情。然后有一天，突然间每个人都开始说：很明显中央情报局一直在监听我们的通话。
额滴神哪，那个证明人们受到欺骗的人却被人们当成疯子。
现在，突然之间每个人都在强烈抗议，都不敢相信这样的事情会发生在美利坚合众国！？！？
去吧，在脸书上分享这个，再发几天牢骚，然后忘掉这件事。这就是美国的激进主义。

注释：美国中央情报局窃听事件
维基解密称，美国中央情报局通过恶意软件等网络武器控制大量美国、欧洲等地企业的电子设备及操作系统产品，包括苹果手机、谷歌安卓系统、微软视窗系统和三星智能电视，把它们变成麦克风进行窃听。

FunTimesInTheEndTime  
The lack of investigation into this early on, despite the voting system having been demonstrably hacked previously, was astounding to me.
“Oh no, oh no, there wasn’t any hacking at the most obvious and easiest place to hack the system” handwaving was disturbing. I don’t understand how so few people looked into this, because it’s the easiest place to do it.

尽管投票系统之前已经明显遭到入侵，但是并没有第一时间进行调查，这让我很震惊。
“不不不，系统没有轻而易举地受到任何黑客的攻击”，这样的推脱让人心烦。我不明白为什么没人去调查，因为这是最容易做的事情。

fisga
The problem is that idiots in charge of this skip security and democracy for the sake of keeping their reputation and their jobs.
An investigation will lead to conclude that such voting systems are insecure, and that those in charge of developing and administrating them are incompetent.

问题是那些相关的白痴人员为了维护自己的名誉、保住自己的工作而无视安全和民主。
而调查将会得出这样的结论：这样的投票系统是不安全的，而且那些负责开发和管理投票系统的人是无能的。

HDD_Compa 
Don't wanna get hacked? Go back to paper.

不想被黑客入侵？那就回到纸质时代吧。

Almostlongenough2
Or up our security game. Seriously, cyber warfare should be expected from all nations yet instead of people realizing this they are just stamping their feet and whining about it.

或者加强我们的安全程度。说正经的，我们应该知道与所有国家都可能发生网络战争，而不是人们意识到这一点，却只能跺着脚抱怨。

kirbyfox312 
I'm curious what all the secrecy behind it is, but I'm pretty sure that it confirms Russia did SOMETHING and may have put the election itself into question.
The big issue is what do we even do if it's found that the Russian gov't hacked in and purged a bunch of voters? We have nothing in place for a special election. We have a president who refuses to believe he could've lost even the popular vote and refuses to think the Russian gov't did anything at all. I can't even imagine the response of the American people if this committee suggested we look into doing a special election due to the information.
And this is exactly what the Russian gov't wanted-- instability in the American system. 

我很好奇这背后隐藏着什么秘密，但我确信，俄罗斯肯定做了一些事情，而这些事情可能使选举本身受到质疑。
最大的问题是，如果俄罗斯政府确实派黑客入侵我们的系统并且清除了一大批（已投票的）选民，那我们怎么办呢？我们对进行补选没有任何准备。我们还有一位总统，他拒绝相信自己会输掉投票，他也拒绝承认俄罗斯政府做了些什么。如果因为此次事件，选举委员会建议我们进行补选，我甚至都想象不出美国人民的反应。
这就是俄罗斯的目的---动摇美国的体制。

The_Count_Lives 
If that's what happened, the American public will never hear about it. It's similar to how sports leagues go out of their way to punish players that insult refs or question their impartiality.
It's not because the league believe the ref's are always right, it's because if the fans believe the judges are compromised, then the entire sport is worthless.
If American's KNOW that the voting system is compromised, there will be absolute anarchy. You'd have to prove that not only the last presidency but every other election going back to god knows when was not tainted.

如果真是这样的话，美国民众永远也不会知道真相。这就像体育联盟以自己的方式惩罚那些侮辱裁判员或质疑他们公正性的球员。
这并不是因为体育联盟认为裁判员总是对的，而是因为一旦球迷们认为裁判有失公平，那么整个比赛就会毫无价值。
如果美国人知道投票制度有失公平，就会出现完全无政府的混乱状态。那你就必须证明，不仅是上一届总统选举，还有之前其它的每一次选举，都是没有污点的。