新的车票功能 [美国媒体]

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wezzer1982 于 23小时前 发表
Traveled on a brand new CR 350kmh train with a new ticket feature. The red lights show that the seat has been paid for and green if not. This is lixed to the ticketing system but means no physical ticket check during the trip. Good innovation and cost savings there.

搭乘了一列全新的时速为350千米的带有新车票功能的中国高铁。红灯表示这个座位有人付过款了，绿灯表示还没有付过款。这是与购票系统关联挂钩的，这意味着在旅途中是不需要检实体票的。这很有创意且节省了不少开支。




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–]Monkeyfeng 35 指标 20小时前 
I know we love to shit on China but high speed rail is such a great thing for China.

我知道我们喜欢喷中国但是中国的高铁确实很厉害。

[–]SailTheWorldWithMe 7 指标 20小时前 
Indeed. China really got this one down. I wish the slow trains were as well run.

中国在这个上确实取得了成就，我希望慢车也能像（高铁）那样快速运行。

[–]GuessImStuckWithThisGreat Britain 4 指标 11小时前 
The slow trains are pretty damn good for the price.

慢车的（速度）对比其票价来说已经非常不错了。

[–]viborg 3 指标 17小时前 
I wish the high speed rail seats were more comfortable. Still it is a big plus overall.

我希望高铁的座位能更舒适些。然而纵观整体它的优势还是很大。

[–]dandmcdUnited States 3 指标 7小时前 
Jury is still out whether it is a great thing. Appearance wise it looks good but it's also extremely costly and already some of the older high-speed lines are starting to show their age and some stations are looking dilapidated and running at bare minimum to save money.

关于高铁是否是伟大出色的事物仍有待商榷。其外观看起来很靓丽，但设计运营成本也很高。有些已运行了一段年日的高铁其老旧程度也已经开始显现了，一些车站看起来很是荒废破败令人堪忧，很多高铁为了省钱也往往以最低限度运行。

I'm just afraid when the economy inevitably tanks so will the entire high-speed train industry. Cuts will be across the board on the transport system which could make train stations less safe due to cuts in security and maintenance.

我只担心中国经济衰落之时，高铁行业又是否会经历相同的命运。交通系统开支会全面削减，安全维护方面投入减少后车站会更不安全。

[–]legit_old_account_1 17 指标 19小时前 
Every time I come back to Germany from China I feel like the railway systems is more fitting for Botswana than a first world country. It's the same trains they literally just ripped off the German trains but somehow manage to make it three times as fast and a million times as punctual.
The newer trains like in OP are even completely Chinese made.

每次从中国回到德国时，我都觉得（德国的）铁路系统更适合博兹瓦纳（（非洲中南部国家））而不是一个第一世界国家。同样的火车但他们想方设法使速度提高了三倍，且非常准时，这完败德国火车。像楼主所发布的那些全新火车它们甚至完全是中国制造产物。

[–]jsneophyte 10 指标 18小时前 
actually they got the tech from the Japanese then built upon it.

实际上中国从日本获得高铁技术之后在此基础上研发出自己的高铁。

[–]Pixelmatsch 7 指标 10小时前 
Actually they got the tech from both German and Japanese stole both and frankensteined a train and called it Chinese innovation.

实际上，他们是从德国和日本二者那里获得高铁技术并进行仿制，将仿制品称为中国创新。

[–]qwertyegg 6 指标 4小时前 
LOL stop spreading your ignorance. The initial technology were purchased from Germany Japan France. And you just sourly called that purchase deal stolen like it was obtained from espionage. You are simply pathetic and can't face the fact that a third world country has better infrastructure than your home town's shabby 50mi/h trains.
Over the years Chinese railway industry has improved the tech significantly and is now much more advanced than the tech they purchase

哈哈，不要大秀你的无知愚蠢了。中国可是从德国、法国和日本那儿购买了最初的高铁技术。你却酸溜溜地将这称为偷窃剽取。你只是无法面对一个第三世界国家的铁路设施比你家乡那时速50米的破火车要好得多这一现实。多年来中国铁路行业显着提升了初始的高铁技术，比他们购买之时的技术要先进得多了。

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[–]legit_old_account_1 3 指标 7小时前
And as a result you can go anywhere 3x as fast as in Germany for 1/10th of the price. Japanese rail is top notch though

因此，你可以花仅十分之一的车票钱速度却是3倍大的火车去德国的任何地方，另外日本铁路也是一流的。

[–]viborg 12 指标 16小时前
You want third world you should try the US rail system.

如果你想要第三世界的体验，那你该试试美国铁路系统。

[–]wezzer1982[S] 3 指标 18小时前
I have just had the same feeling after coming back from London. It's more complicated messy confusing delays and hassle in my native country than it is in China

刚从伦敦回来时，我也有同样的感觉。比起中国，基建在我的祖国有更杂乱让人费解的拖延和争议。

[–]diffianWales 6 指标 17小时前
Wait until you try Welsh rail and you'll feel like you're trying to commute to fucking everyday. We don't even have that new fandangled electricity stuff yet because Westminster hates our guts.
I think even horse and carriage would be faster and a private jet may just represent better value for money.

在你试乘威尔士铁路前别说得太满。你会觉得自己每天都在反复地被通勤“强奸”。因为议会对我们恨之入骨，火车上甚至没有那些新奇的电子产品（指正文中提到的红绿灯）。我想骑马和坐马车都比它快，私人飞机对比下算性价比好的了。
（译注：Westminster——威斯敏斯特，伦敦市的一个行政区，也指英国议会）

[–]Festos 7 指标 14小时前*
The trains can go as fast in Germany as well but most of the trains have to many stops so it doesn’t make sense to accelerate that much. Also in crowded areas like the Ruhrgebiet the fast trains share the rail with the regional trains which slows them down.

火车在德国速度也可以很快。但是大部分的列车沿经太多个停靠站。所以加速并没有太大意义。在鲁尔区这样拥挤的地区，快车与当地列车是共享铁路的，这也会降低快车速度。

Going on the high speed tracks like Siegburg Bonn to Frankfurt Airport and it is way more comfortable than in China (no security check train stations usually in the city center you can be on the platform and go to the position your car stops whenever you want buying tickets without any id or queueing quiet zones in the car where loud speaking or using a phone is prohibited free wifi on the ICE trains which actually works pretty well real tables for being able to work and sockets for phone or laptop coffee brought to your seat beer and food can be bought in the Bistro).

沿着西格堡波恩站这样的高速轨道前往法兰克福机场，其舒适程度远比中国高（通常在市中心没有安检，您可以在站台上，车到就上，无论何时想买票都可以，不需要任何证件或者排队，在车上的安静区域里禁止大声说话和打电话。城际特快列车（ICE train）上的无线信号其实很好，桌子稳当可以用来工作，有手机手提充电的插座，咖啡送到座位上（方便你饮用），啤酒食物可以在小餐馆买到）。

By the way the screen in Germany does even show the start and end of the journey instead of having an unthoughtful red/green dot which creates a barrier on people with red/green colour blindness so people who do not have a seat reservation do know where they can sit without blocking a seat.

顺便说一下，德国的屏幕甚至可以显示旅程的开始和结束，而不是一个思虑不周对红绿色盲症患者造成障碍的红绿圆点。买了站票的人也知道哪里可以坐下又不占别人的位。

The issue with the German train system lies more on the regional side which has too crowded trains and lots of delays but ICEs are world class.

德国的列车系统问题更多是地方太小太拥挤还有很多误点问题，但城际特快列车可是世界一流的。

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[–]wezzer1982[S] 3 指标 5小时前 
Never traveled German trains but they sound good. The colour blindness thing is scraping for a negative though. Only the people working on the train really need to see the colours anyway. Surely red/green colour blindness is very rare what happens to these people when they are driving cars and accidentally jump red lights due to colour blindness 😂

没坐过德国火车但它们听起来不错。提到色盲问题那真的是在鸡蛋里挑骨头。只有在火车乘务人员才真的需要辨认颜色啊。的确红绿色盲症很少见。这些人要是开车且不小心闯了红灯的话那该怎么办。😂

[–]Call_Me_Carl_Cort 1 指标 4小时前 
This is r/China a lot of posters can bear to see anything positive said about China it's pathetic. This guy is really grasping at straws thoughnot.

这是红迪中国网。许多发帖者无法忍受看到任何有关中国的积极评论。这挺可悲的。不过，这家伙真的是纠着点鸡毛蒜皮的小事不放啊。

[–]wezzer1982[S] 2 指标 2小时前 
Very true 😀

你说的太对了。

[–]93402European unx -1 指标 9小时前 
Absolutely agree. Plus in Germany you one can just catch the next train if missed the booked one. The old ICEs are still in darn good shape and way more comfortable than the chinese trains.

绝对赞同，另外在德国如果你错过了预订的车次，还可以搭乘下一班。旧的城际特快列车仍然保养得很好，远比中国的列车舒服。

[–]occupatio 4 指标 12小时前 
Engineering is about a million little design improvements. Indeed as you mentioned they improved on the 'technology transfer' they got.

工程学涉及约一百万处设计的细微改进。事实上，正如你所言，他们是在“技术转让”后改进的。

But a big part of is that high speed rail requires long stretches of track that are fairly straight (instead of winding and wending and curving). That is really hard to do in Europe since many track lines follow old routes. The benefit of laying track down anew like in China is that they can be made very straight. Of course it helps to be able to demolish anything in its path that they want.

但其中很大一部分原因是高速铁路需要很长的轨道，这些轨道要求相当直线（而不是缠绕和弯曲）。在欧洲很难做到这一点，因为许多铁轨沿用老线路。像中国一样重新铺设轨道的好处是它们可以做得很直。当然，他们可以拆除任何想要的道路这点也帮了很大忙。

[–]tian_yang 1 指标 4小时前 
Botswana is a fairly wealthy country - per capita its GDP is higher than China. The reason their infrastructure doesn't reflect that is simply the extremely low population density.

博茨瓦纳是一个相当富裕的国家——人均GDP高于中国。这个国家的基础设施不出众，只是因为他们人口密度极低不需要用到高铁之类的基建。

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[–]93402European unx 4 指标 9小时前 
LOL so what? Not that i dont like the chinese high speed rain but that seat booked feature exists since the 90s in europe even showing you from what station on the seat is booked. Not just a lame LED. remember NOTHING you see in this country is invented here.

哈哈，那又怎么样？ 并不是说我不喜欢中国的高铁，但是自90年代以来欧洲就有可以显示座位预订功能的列车了，甚至可以显示该座位在哪个站点被预订了。 不只是某些蹩脚的LED灯。 请记住，无论你在中国看到什么东西都不是在那里发明的。

And what do you mean by no physical ticket check? As far as i know the Laowai needs a paper ticket since he has no National ID card that can be used to purchase online tickets Yeah no ID card even though he pays a fortune in taxes in this country.

你说不再有实物检票是什么意思？ 据我所知，老外就需要一张纸质票，因为他没有身份证不能在线购买车票，是啊，即使他在这个国家交了大量的税，也没有身份证。

[–]wezzer1982[S] 2 指标 5小时前 
Everyone (including Chinese) still need a paper ticket. This just means they don't need to send a person around the train to check tickets. This is good for them and us. I have never seen this system in Europe

每个人包括中国人仍然需要纸质票。这只不过意味着他们不需要再派个工作人员在车上巡逻着检票。 这对他们和我们也好，我从没在欧洲见到过这种系统。

[–]93402European unx 3 指标 5小时前 
“Everyone (including Chinese) still need a paper ticket.”
Not true! Chinese can use the train just with their ID cards scanning them at the gate.

“每个人包括中国人仍然需要纸质票。”
不对！中国人只需要身份证就能坐车，在关口处刷卡就行了。

[–]wezzer1982[S] 1 指标 5小时前 
Never noticed and I have traveled weekly by train. I would wonder why they still queue for machines and at the desks if this is the case? In this case the only people who should be queuing at the desks is foreigners 😂

我每周都做高铁，从没注意过这事。如果真如你所说，我会惊讶他们为什么仍在售票窗口排队？如果真如你所说，唯一在在售票窗排队的只会是外国人。哈哈。

[–]93402European unx 2 指标 4小时前 
“I would wonder why they still queue for machines and at the desks if this is the case?”
well TIC. Guarantee chinese can use only ID cardwife does it all the time.

“如果真如你所说，我会惊讶他们为什么仍在售票窗口排队？“
好吧，事实胜于雄辩，我敢打包票中国人用身份证就能乘高铁，我老婆每次都这么做。

[–]Aan2007 1 指标 5小时前 
them you apparently never been to Europe all seat reservations compartments at strip of paper which booked segment for each seat or LCD displays with same information not some lame LED light

那么你显然从来没有去过欧洲，所有的座位预订号、所在车厢在为每个座位预订细分的纸条或液晶显示屏上都会显示出来，而不是某些差劲蹩脚的LED灯。

[–]Aan2007 1 指标 5小时前 
very innovative in Europe we just use proper LCD displays instead of cheap LED lights or printed strips of paper where you can exactly see the booked segment

非常具有创新性，在欧洲我们只需使用液晶显示屏，而不是廉价的LED灯或打印的纸质票，您可以从显示屏上准确看到那些被预订的座位信息。