澳洲和新西兰是在中国势力范围下还是在美国势力范围下？ [美国媒体]

Are Australia and New Zealand under China’s sphere of influence or America’s?

澳洲和新西兰是在中国势力范围下还是在美国势力范围下？

John Godfrey, lives in New Zealand
Answered May 19
The acid test is if China and the US were to declare war with each other how would Australia and New Zealand respond? My hunch is that Australia would ally itself with the USA while NZ would remain neutral. China is NZ’s second largest trading partner after Australia and trade is growing. The US is our fourth largest. Aggregating all the trading parners under China's sphere, or neutral, against all those under US influence or neutral - but assuming as a non aligned country, even if the US sanctioned us, Australia would continue to trade with its closest neighbour — would probably leave the Chinese bloc ahead, still. It would hurt us more to side with USA than be neutral. All this is hypothetical thankfully.
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意思是说如果中美相互宣战，澳洲和新西兰将如何回应？我觉得澳洲会站在美国那一边，而新西兰保持中立。中国是继澳洲之后新西兰的第二大贸易伙伴，而且贸易额还在不断上升。美国是我们的第四大贸易伙伴。对比中国势力范围下的所有贸易伙伴和美国势力范围下的所有贸易伙伴——但是假设澳洲会继续和自己最近的邻居新西兰进行贸易——那可能是中国阵营领先。而如果我们不保持中立而是和美国结盟，那我们的损失会更大。希望不会真的发生。

Graham Wright, Educator
Answered May 19
I don’t know about New Zealand, but for Australia I’d say both. But not exclusively both. There are other nations whose cultures and economies affect us also.
Australia’s economy is greatly influenced by China. As such many policies and practices in industry reflect the importance of that industry. The US affects our economy also, but not to the same extent.
Culturally, however, we’re more influenced by the US. Although that is not exclusive either. But lots of our fashions and interests are influenced, if not dictated, by US culture.
As others have stated British culture greatly influences ours also. I’d say that lots of Australians feel more affinity with British, New Zealand and even Canadian humour, priorities and sensibilities than we do with Americans.
So I think the answer is both, but not exclusively in any sphere and not to the exclusion of others. I’d say this is true of most countries today. The world is getting smaller and globalisation is a real thing.
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我不知道新西兰是什么情况，但是我觉得澳洲都在中美的势力范围下。其他国家的经济和文化也影响着我们。
澳洲经济深受中国影响。因此很多的产业政策和实践都反应了该行业的重要性。美国也影响我们经济，但是不及中国。
文化上，我们受美国影响更多。虽然并非只受美国影响，但是我们的很多时尚和兴趣都受美国文化的重大影响。
正如其他人所言英国文化也强烈影响着我们。我觉得很多澳洲人更亲近英国，新西兰，甚至是加拿大，而不是美国。
所以我觉得澳洲都在两国的势力范围下，但也受其他国家影响。我认为如今的大部分国家都是如此。世界越来越小，全球化是真实存在的。

Robin Daverman, world traveler
Answered May 19 · Upvoted by Luca Yang, Master Economics, Fudan University (2019)
Are Australia and New Zealand under China’s sphere of influence or America’s?
Ah, you are in luck! Just today the UN Human Rights Council voted on a resolution to “urgently dispatch an independent, international commission of inquiry" to probe the deadly shootings of Gaza protesters by Israeli forces. This is a good test case because the underlying issue has nothing to do with Australia’s own national interest. So it’s strictly a matter of pleasing some other country. The actors you listed above - the US, China, and the Great Britain, voted in 3 different ways. Look for your self who Australia followed. Here is the factual evidence for your inquiry.
UN votes to send war crimes investigators to Gaza
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啊，你真幸运！今天联合国人权理事会投票决议以“紧急派遣一个独立的国际调查委员会”调查以色列部队对加沙抗议者的致命袭击。这是个很好的测试用例，因为这个议题和澳洲的国家利益没有半点关系。所以这实际上是在取悦某个国家。你所列举的国家——美国，英国和中国都投出了不同的票。你自己去查查看澳洲跟了谁。



Richard Munrow, International Security Consultant at International Non Governmental Organizations (2011-present)
Answered 36m ago
I take it your refering to this?
Hillary Clinton is sounding the alarm over China's efforts to covertly interfere with politics worldwide
China, sadly but they are moves afoot to limit their influence.New Zealand is chained to China economically due to the Free Trade agreement we are so proud of but it's a double edged sword. Cheep chinese imports are deviation our small industry and manufacturing sector and highstreet retailers suffers from eBay duty-free purchases from China.
Australia economicy is now dependent on mineral resources exports to China for their manufacturing boon but China repeatedly tries to gain more control over all sides of this supply chain as the don't want any one profiting but themselves.
Interesting a decade ago Australia's second largest industry was Education of overseas students but this collapsed almost overnight based on a scare mongering campaign alleging systematic xenophobic attacks of foreign students, dispite only a few isolated incidents, thus Australia's economy suddenly became directly dependent on exports to China…? Coincidence???

你指的是这个？
“希拉里克林顿就中国秘密干涉世界政治的做法敲响警钟。”
遗憾的是，中国实际上是在限制自己的影响力。由于我们所骄傲的自由贸易协议，新西兰在经济上同中国绑定，但是这是一把双刃剑。廉价的中国进口产品正在摧毁我们的小产业和制造业部门，而零售商们因为ebay上的免关税中国商品而遭受损失。
澳洲经济现在依赖于向中国出口矿产资源，但是中国不断的想要获得对供应链的所有方面进行更多的控制，因为他们只想要自己获益。
有意思的是十年前澳洲的第二大产业是海外学生的教育产业，但是这个产业在一夜之间就崩塌，因为有人发布谣言称要对外国留学生进行系统性的排外袭击，尽管只发生了一些些单独的攻击事件，因此澳洲经济突然间就直接依赖于对中国出口了？巧合？

Hadeed Ajmal Khan Swati
Answered May 19
Don’t know about New Zealand but Australia is in the American camp.
Australia has sent its forces to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan to fight alongside American forces.
Australia hosts American bases.
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不知道新西兰会如何，但是澳洲会站在美国一边。
澳洲向朝鲜，越南，伊拉克以及阿富汗派遣部队，和美国部队并肩作战。
澳洲还有美军基地。

Philippa Doran, Best country in the world!
Answered May 19
My guess would be neither. If anybody’s, it’s probably Britain’s. Yes, it’s the other side of the planet, but most people would be of some British descent.
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我觉得都没有，如果有的话，那也是在英国的势力范围下。是的，英国在地球的另一边，但是大部分澳洲人和新西兰人都有些许的英国血统。