日本对联合国说没法证明二战性奴是被迫的 [日本媒体]

东京—日本在对一个联合国委员会的报告中称,其并未发现二战日本政府及军队强制妇女做性奴的证据,这是历史解释争议中所出现的一个最新声明。日本网友:何不向联合国展示二战日军没有强奸和强征慰安妇的证据呢?

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TOKYO —Japan says it has found no evidence its WWII government and military forcibly rounded up women to be sex slaves, Tokyo has told a U.N. committee, the latest pronouncement in a corrosive row over interpretations of history.

东京—日本在对一个联合国委员会的报告中称,其并未发现二战日本政府及军队强制妇女做性奴的证据,这是历史解释争议中所出现的一个最新声明。

The confirmation Tuesday, ahead of a conference on women later this month, is likely to renew anger among the dwindling number of surviving former “comfort women”, who say the country has never taken full responsibility for what it did in wartime.

这一声明在周二发布,而本月晚些时候有一个关于女性的会议。这种举动可能重新激起减少的”慰安妇“幸存者群体的愤怒,她们认为这个国家在对待战时所为时,从未承担全部责任。


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AsianGaijinYesWeExistFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:22AM JST
Shocking!!!

 令人震惊!!!

GaijindesuFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:25AM JST
While most mainstream Japanese accept national guilt over historic atrocities, a vocal right wing minority say the country has been unfairly maligned for behavior they claim was common in conflict
I don't recall any historical account of US soldiers killing infants for fun.

 当大部分主流日本人都接受历史暴行所表露的民族罪恶,而一些右翼少数派发声说,国家在这些行为上被不公正地诽谤,他们宣称这些在冲突中是普遍发生的。
我没有想起任何有关美国士兵杀婴作乐的历史记录。

justbcuzisayFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:25AM JST
Why can they not see how these types of statements are the reason this issue keeps going around in circles?
If you really want the past to be put in the past, stop with this silly apologise-deny-apologise-deny

为什么他们就是看不到就是这种类型的声明才导致这个议题在不断的重复着。
如果你真的想要过去变成过去,停下这种道歉-否认-道歉-否认的愚蠢行为。

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tokyo_eiyuuFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:29AM JST
I just read a few weeks ago that Japan apologized about the comfort women predicament. Then they release this report. I have no idea what to think about their intentions.

几周前我还读到日本政府就战争期间对慰安妇经受的遭遇做出道歉的新闻,然而他们却又发出这样的公告,我真是想不明白他们所欲何为。

David VarnesFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:37AM JST
I'm sorry, but the GOJ on this issue has no honor. At all.

很抱歉我要这样说——但日本政府在这个问题上实在是毫无荣誉可言。

albaleoFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:41AM JST
If you really want the past to be put in the past. But some of us would like to know how it really was. I don't recall any historical account of US soldiers killing infants for fun. You should read more widely. Headline from five years ago: "US soldiers killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies" (It may not be true, but isn't that the issue?) We're talking about events from 70 years ago when in the most advanced nation in the world black people were treated as dirt and rape was only a crime if accompanied by physical violence.

“如果你真的想让过去成为过去”但是有些人就是想知道过去发生了什么事情。“我不记得任何有关美国士兵杀婴取乐的历史记录”那你真的该多多涉略。来看五年前的这条头条:“有美军士兵在阿富汗举行针对平民的屠杀比赛,奖杯为死者的手指头”(这件事可能不是真的,但是这难道不正是问题所在吗?)我们现在谈论的是70年前的事情,当时在作为世界上最先进国家的美国,黑人完全没有地位,而且只有在伴随身体暴力的情况下强奸才被视为犯罪。

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KurobuneFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:42AM JST
Yeah, right !

太棒了!

carpboyFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:44AM JST
Japan has apologized for something they have destroyed all records of

日本虽作出道歉,但是这些罪行的历史记录都被日本摧毁了。

shonanbbFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:49AM JST
Up to 200,000 women, many of them South Koreans but also from China, the Philippines and what is now Indonesia, are estimated to have been forced to provide sex to Japanese soldiers during World War II.

“在二战期间大致有200,000名慰安妇(很多是朝鲜人,也有中国人,另有部分来自菲律宾和现今归属印尼的受害者)被强迫为日军提供性服务。”

Hearsay!I am in agreement with the committee.

这都是谣传罢了!我听委员会的。

SchopenhauerFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:49AM JST
Why protests about comfort women come so strongly from Korea and China while not very much from other countries such as Taiwan, Philippines, Thailand etc. where probably the imperial army did the same thing. I feel there are some other reasons or intentions China and Korea attack Japan behind the comfort women.

为什么慰安妇呼声最大的地方就中韩两国?台湾(译注:此为原评论者观点)、菲律宾、泰国等国呢,日本帝国对他们也做了同样的事啊。我觉得在慰安妇问题上中韩两国政府对日本有其他的打算。

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kiboushaFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:53AM JST
So, for anyone who wonders why we keep hearing about demands for apologies, do you still wonder after reading this article ?

 所以,有些人不明白为什么其他国家一直要求我们道歉,在读完这篇文章后,你依然感到诧异吗?

CajunH2OFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:58AM JST
@gaijindesu should we talk about Vietnam? Yes American soldiers have killed innocents in past conflicts and have raped women in past conflicts. Hell they do it in Japan even today. Don't try to wipe away any guilt just because Murica!! War is full of atrocities. Usually on all sides. Not always sanctioned or sponsored by governments. Most times it's horrible people in the midst of it all
@gaijindesu 我们应当谈论越南?对美国士兵在以前的冲突中杀死平民,强奸妇女。该死的是他们在如今的日本也犯下这种罪行。不要因为是美国,就给它洗地!!战争充斥着暴行。战争双方都是如此。并不总是由政府支持或者发起的。大多数时候是我们当中的那些可怕的人所犯下的。

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JimizoFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:59AM JST
"While most mainstream Japanese accept national guilt over historic atrocities, a vocal right wing minority say the country has been unfairly maligned for behavior they claim was common in conflict."
We keep being told "most mainstream Japanese" reject the claims of the rightists, but until this majority makes its voice heard above this supposed minority, so what?
Are these people just complacent? Don't really give a crap? Sort of on the fence? Afraid of rightist thugs who share the government's true view on this matter?
Not very impressive nor convincing.

JimizoFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:59AM JST
”当大多数的日本人承认自己国家在历史上所犯下的罪行时,少数右翼分子却说日本在战争中的行为被不公正的丑化了“
我们一直被告知绝大多数的日本人不同意这些右翼分子的观点,但是这大部分群体并没有让自己的声音盖过这假定的少数群体,那又怎样?
这些日本人很得意?或者一点都不在乎?还是在保持观望?亦或害怕那些在这件事上和政府真实观点一致的右翼暴徒?
所以这句话并没有太大的说服力。

CajunH2OFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:59AM JST
@kibousha. Yeah this is a bonehead move. But the other countries can't hold an entire nation for the actions of its past or the comments of the silly conservative base

CajunH2OFEB. 03, 2016 - 07:59AM JST
@kibousha。是的,这是一个愚蠢的举动。但是其他国家也不能因为过去的行为或者保守派的愚蠢言论就抓着整个日本不放。

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justbcuzisayFEB. 03, 2016 - 08:05AM JST
But some of us would like to know how it really was.
So do I. I am just speaking to the mentality of the government and apologists. I forgot one part of the circle: it's apologise, complain about drudging up the past, deny, repeat.

 justbcuzisayFEB. 03, 2016 - 08:05AM JST
 但我们中总有人想知道事情的真相。
我也是。我说的是政府和辩护者的心态。道歉,抱怨别人挖掘历史,否认,再重复。

5petalsFEB. 03, 2016 - 08:34AM JST
'"Why can they not see how these types of statements are the reason this issue keeps going around in circles?"
Because they are using circle logic.

5petalsFEB. 03, 2016 - 08:34AM JST
“为什么他们不明白这些声明就是这件事不断发酵循环的原因?”
因为他们在使用循环逻辑。

sandhonourFEB. 03, 2016 - 08:34AM JST
God this embarrassing for the people of Japan.

sandhonourFEB. 03, 2016 - 08:34AM JST
天啊,这对日本人民来说真是尴尬的事情。

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noypikantokuFEB. 03, 2016 - 08:35AM JST
No Evidence? Dear Japanese Right Wingers and Apologists. There are lot's of evidence, the thousands of victims and witnesses from Philippines, Korea, Taiwan, China and Indonesia. These women don't know each other, they don't even speak the same language, however their stories are all synced. .. What are these evidences that are lacking? CCTV Footages? Semen Samples? Pamphlets with picture menu of these women proving their willingness to be prostitutes like the ones they use in delivery health/ soap lands? or time cards of these women during their shifts?

 没有证据?亲爱的日-本-右-翼和辩护者们,有大量的证据:成千上万来自菲律宾,朝韩,(台湾),中国和印尼。这些女性互不相识,说着不同的语言,然而她们的故事却是相似而同步的。。那么缺少什么证据?是监控录像?还是精子样本?还是有着照片目录可以作证明她们乐意做妓女的小册子,就像在他们在性教育保健和色情洗浴室做的册子一样?还是说这些妇女倒班的签到卡?

How about showing UN the evidence that the Japanese soldiers didn't rape and forced women to sex slavery during the WW2?

何不向联合国展示二战日军没有强奸和强征慰安妇的证据呢?

nedinjapanFEB. 03, 2016 - 08:37AM JST
You need to understand Japanese culture and way of thinking to comprehend this ... In short, they are saying that they do not have self incriminating evidence in their own hand, which they can trust, and therefore have unanimously decided they do not need to be blamed for it! Well, it is a silly psychology but I see it all the time at various levels.

你需要了解日本文化和思维方式才能理解这个问题。。。总而言之,他们的意思是说自己手上没有自我定罪的证据,因此他们就相信,并且全体一致决定他们不需要受到惩罚!呵,一种愚蠢的心理,但是我总是在不同的层面上见到。

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marcelitoFEB. 03, 2016 - 08:44AM JST
The govt. really is hopelessly enslaved to right wingers on this issue. One step forward ,two steps back every time. Watch out for the inevitable - "See , they our neighbours still don`t like us, why?" This is gonna do wonders for them. Again. Dinosaurs.

 在这问题上(日本)政府真是无可救药的受制于右翼分子,总是前进一步后却又后退两步。到时他们又会不可避免的说“这个邻居还是不喜欢我们,为什么?”这又将创造一次“奇迹”。真是过时、落伍。

GaijindesuFEB. 03, 2016 - 08:45AM JST
@CajunH2O
I was talking about infants, and you're talking about women.
@CajunH2O

我在讨论婴儿,而你在讨论妇女。

marcelitoFEB. 03, 2016 - 08:45AM JST
‘Forceful taking away’ of comfort women by the military and government authorities could not be confirmed in any of the documents that the GOJ (government of Japan) was able to identify,”
Yep, JIA managed to burn what they needed to burn.

日本政府并未在档案中发现任何政府和军队“强征”慰安妇的证据。
是的,日本帝国军队已经把他们需要烧的都烧没了。

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