美军禁止军人在冲绳基地外喝酒 [日本媒体]

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NAHA —The U.S. military in Okinawa is prohibiting service members living on its bases in the southern island prefecture from drinking alcohol off base for around four weeks from Friday military officials said.

那霸——据美军官员称，冲绳美军从周五开始，禁止住在南部岛屿基地的服役人员在基地外饮酒四个星期。

The move comes amid calls for greater discipline among U.S. service members and other personnel lixed to U.S. bases after Kenneth Franklin Shinzato a former Marine and a worker at the U.S. Air Force’s Kadena Air Base was arrested last week on suspicion of dumping the body of a local woman.

这一举动是在一片呼吁美军加强基地人员纪律的声音中做出的。不久前，前美军士兵，美国空军基地工作人员新里·富兰克林.·尼迪因被怀疑杀死一名当地女性并弃尸而被捕。

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The U.S. military is also encouraging workers on its bases in Okinawa to adhere to the ban effective until June 24 which the military has termed a “period of unity and mourning.”

美国军队同时也鼓励在冲绳基地的工人在6月24号前遵守禁令，军队对此有个称呼叫“统一默哀时期”。

Under the policy those living off base can drink alcohol only while they are on base or inside their homes。

在这个政策下，那些住在基地外的只能在基地里面或自己家里喝酒。


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Asakura CowboyMAY. 27 2016 - 03:27PM JST
Silliness. How will banning it for only 4 weeks help?

愚蠢。只禁四个星期有什么用？

cracaphatMAY. 27 2016 - 03:27PM JST
They're not kids and painting all with the same brush is such a reactionary decision.

他们又不是小孩，对所有人无差别惩罚只是一种僵化的决定。

randomnatorMAY. 27 2016 - 03:28PM JST
Why just Okinawa? Is it only Okinawa based US military members who commit crimes?

为何仅限于冲绳？难道只有驻冲绳美军基地的人犯罪？

SimondBMAY. 27 2016 - 03:29PM JST
Local bars will not be too happy.

当地居酒屋听了会不太爽的。

wristwatchMAY. 27 2016 - 03:33PM JST
Although it is easy to understand the need for action to relieve Okinawan citizens of some stress this does not seem the appropriate means of action.

虽然很容易理解，需要采取一些措施以缓解冲绳居民的压力，但是这种方式似乎不妥。

This will reduce the presence of obnoxious drunks but this doesn't help much with any rape or murder statistics.

这会减少讨厌的酒鬼在街头晃荡的现象，但是对减少强奸和谋杀于事无补。

The most dangerous predators are not those who drink but those who are sober and will persue their evil with sober intelligence. These are the individuals that will premeditate a homicide and will avoid detection.

最危险的掠食者不是那些酒鬼，而是那些头脑清醒并用他们清醒的智慧实施罪恶的人。就是那些预谋杀人，并且有反侦探能力的家伙们。

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klausdorthMAY. 27 2016 - 03:34PM JST
So can this "ban" prevent a crime?

哦这种”禁令“能预防犯罪？

Probably and most definitely not.

肯定不能啦。

Curfew would be a better option in my opinion.

我认为宵禁的方法更好。

smithinjapanMAY. 27 2016 - 03:39PM JST
How does this prevent non-servicemen (and women) from committing crimes?

这禁令怎么防止非现役男女犯罪？

David BlueMAY. 27 2016 - 03:54PM JST
Well that ain't gonna stop Captain Upchuck from drowning in it! Just move the base to a secluded island and keep the dogs away from civilization.

哎，这绝不可能让”醉鬼上尉“停止酗酒！还是把基地搬到一个与世隔绝的小岛上，让这些酒鬼们远离现代文明吧。

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5SpeedRacer5MAY. 27 2016 - 03:57PM JST
OUCH! But very admirable.

oh!(惊讶)但是太好了。

How many times seriously do we see the US taking the high road in matters like this? I think it is an excellent chance to suck it up hold your head up and show the world that you are better than they are America. Wouldn't it be wonderful if US armed forces were really thought of as officers and gentlemen? That is what they are right? Time to prove it.

我们有几次看到美国人像这次认真的采取正确的措施？我认为这是极好的机会，你们可以认真地向世界表明你们比以前更好了。如果美军在人们眼中成为了真正的军官和绅士，那不是很好吗？这不正是他们本来的样子吗？是时候证明自己了。

Alcohol is a poison and a highly addictive substance. It affects health and performance on and off the job. It obviously leads to criminal activity in many cases. Will banning alcohol "prevent" crimes? It will prevent some. It might prevent a lot of crime. And hey if you need your drug stay on base. easy peasy.

酒是一种毒药并且会让人上瘾。它 影响人的健康和行为，并且妨碍工作。它在许多案件中很明显地导致犯罪活动的发生。禁酒会预防犯罪吗？会的，它会防止一些甚至很多犯罪的发生。如果你想喝酒可以在基地里喝，这很容易。

We all should consider the heavy social costs of alcohol. Maybe local bars should go to the Okinawa government and explain to everyone how their drug delivery business justifies all the stuff US personnel get blamed for. And make sure to sell tickets to that meeting because it is sure to be a doozy.

我们都应该知道酒带来了严重的社会负担。也许当地酒吧应该去冲绳政府向所有人交代他们是如何向美军提供那些受谴责的酒的。而且参加这个听证会的人需要购票进入，因为肯定非常精彩。

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BlacklabelMAY. 27 2016 - 03:58PM JST
Yeah what does this have to do at all with alcohol?

这个和酒精有什么关系？

NobusakiMAY. 27 2016 - 04:17PM JST
If I were a general or lieutenant I would have my squad go up to the locals and apologize for the actions of a marine. I would then have them help out the locals by assisting in labor. Lastly I will inform the men myself about respecting the rights of the Japanese citizen acting with dignity to represent your country and any marine who is caught breaking the law will be severely scrutinized and their whole squad will pay the price.

如果我是一个将军或者中尉，我会让我这个班去找当地人，为海军的行为道歉。然后我会让他们给当地人帮忙，提供劳务。最后我会自己告诉士兵们，你要代表你的国家去尊重日本公民维护尊严的权力，任何海军军人如果因违法被捕，将受到严厉的审查，而他们所在的团队将付出代价。

I m serious when it comes to military personnel attacking harmless civilians.

当军人攻击无辜的平民时，我这么说是认真的。

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CrucialSMAY. 27 2016 - 04:32PM JST
This will reduce the presence of obnoxious drunks but this doesn't help much with any rape or murder statistics.

”这会减少讨厌的酒鬼在街头晃荡的现象，但是对减少强奸和谋杀于事无补。“

Wristwatch the number or rapes and murders by the US Military is so low its virtually non existent.

Wristwatch兄，美军强奸和谋杀的数量都很少，几乎可以忽略不计。

StrangerlandMAY. 27 2016 - 04:45PM JST
I think that a lot of people are missing the point here that this is collective punishment. It's for all the group to realize that misbehavior on their own parts will result in punishment for the rest of the group. Right or wrong it's how the military (and Japan for that matter) often act.

我认为，很多人在讨论问题时忽略了这一点：这是集体惩罚。它就是要让全体人员意识到，只要他们中有部分人行为不当，会招致团体的其他成员受惩罚。无论对错，军队（这方面而言，包括日本）就是经常这么做的。

dcog9065MAY. 27 2016 - 05:13PM JST
I doubt this would do much especially seeing as it's only for 4 weeks. No doubt there are other mentally unstable in the base and I think they would have no problem waiting out the 4 weeks before they can go out on the hunt again. Might be an idea to create an armed Okinawa citizen militia to keep these anti-socials in check.

我看这措施无济于事，特别是禁令只执行四周。毫无疑问基地里有其他意志薄弱的人，我想他们熬4个星期再出去为非作歹是没问题的。我有个想法，就是可以组建一支冲绳民兵武装力量，去阻止这些反社会型人格的家伙。

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gokai_wo_manekuMAY. 27 2016 - 05:19PM JST
Hasn't this been tried before after other crimes?

之前在发生其他犯罪后不是也试过这种办法吗？

sangetsu03MAY. 27 2016 - 05:41PM JST
I think that a lot of people are missing the point here that this is collective punishment. It's for all the group to realize that misbehavior on their own parts will result in punishment for the rest of the group. Right or wrong it's how the military (and Japan for that matter) often act.

我认为，很多人在讨论问题时忽略了这一点：这是集体惩罚。它就是要让全体人员意识到，只要他们中有部分人行为不当，会招致团体的其他成员受惩罚。无论对错，军队（这方面而言，包括日本）就是经常这么做的。

The man who committed the crime wasn't a service member but a civilian worker. Banning service members from doing something because someone who wasn't a service worker committed a crime doesn't make that much sense does it? Any civilian base worker (who is not subject to military law) can go out and have a few drinks tonight.

这个罪犯不是现役军人，而是一个平民工人。因为有非现役军人犯罪，就要禁止现役军人做某事，这样做有没有道理？任何平民工人（他们不受军法制约）今晚都可以出去喝上一杯。