【今日日本】日本禁止“滚出日本”等言论--司法部提出了仇恨言论的举例 [日本媒体]

JusticeMinistry presents examples of hate speech

司法部提出了仇恨言论的举例

【日期】2017年2月5日



TOKYO — The Justice Ministry said Saturday that it has sent to about 70 localgovernments across the country examples of discriminatory language and behaviorbanned by the law concerning racist propaganda and hate speech.

东京-司法部周六表示，已经向全国70个地方政府发放了被种族主义宣传和仇恨言论法禁止的语言和行为的例子。

The examples include threats to kill people of certain nationalities andextreme insults like comparing certain groups of people to bugs such as roachesor other animals, or remarks like “go back to your home country.”

这些举例包括威胁杀害某些国籍的人和极端侮辱，比如把某类人群比喻成虫子，比如蟑螂或其他动物，或者发表像“滚回你的国家去”之类的言论。

Language with the clear intention to exclude specific groups of people is alsodeemed as hate speech, the examples showed.

带有明确的排斥某类人群的语言也被认为是仇恨言论，正如举例中所显示的。

The law designed to deter hate speech was enacted last May, but questionsremain about its effectiveness as it lacks a clear definition of discriminatorylanguage and behavior. It also prescribes no punishment for using such languageor engaging in such behavior.

去年五月颁布了阻止仇恨言论的法律，但是它的效力依然存在问题，因为缺乏清晰地歧视性语言和行为的定义。它也没有规定使用了这些语言和实施了这些行为后有什么惩罚。

A total of 13 municipalities, including Kawasaki and Osaka where hate speechoccurs frequently, had asked the ministry for specific examples of offendingremarks because of the difficulty of determining when language is no longerprotected as free speech as guaranteed by the Constitution.

有13个自治体，包括经常出现仇恨言论的川崎和大阪，已经要求司法部提出不适言论举例，因为决定哪些言论不受宪法中言论自由的保护是很困难的。

The examples were presented to local governments that asked the ministry forexamples, it said.

司法部说，现在具体举例发放给了那些向我部要例子的地方政府。


kurisupisuFeb. 05,2017 - 06:33AM JST
A law without apenalty is about as useful as a dog without a bark.....

没有惩罚的法律就像不会叫的狗一样有用…

PacificpilotFeb.05, 2017 - 06:51AM JST
Are you familiarwith names like Michael Phelps, Danica Patrick and Von Miller? Well, if you area Japanese national, then you might not be, but here's a definition of"Hate Speech" by Derek Jeter. It's called "Stand Up"featuring these Olympic, NASCAR and NFL stars:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0meWnSvkDA

对这些名字熟悉吗，迈克尔菲尔普斯，丹妮卡帕特里克和冯米勒？如果你是日本人可能你不熟悉，但是这是德瑞科吉特定义的仇恨言论。被叫做“stand up”对奥林匹克，美国运动汽车竞赛协会和全美橄榄球联盟有十分重要的影响：
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0meWnSvkDA

SchopenhauerFeb.05, 2017 - 07:03AM JST
So, "YankeeGo Home" will be banned.

那么，不能说“美国佬滚回家”了。

YubaruFeb. 05,2017 - 07:33AM JST
The examplesinclude threats to kill people of certain nationalities and extreme insultslike comparing certain groups of people to bugs such as roaches or otheranimals, or remarks like “go back to your home country.”
Certainnationalities? So it's going to be ok for others? BS, Threats to kill anyone ofany nationality is hate speak, doesnt matter where they come from.
Oh and on the"go back home".....I'll bet anyone married to a Japanese female(foreigner that is) have heard this one time or another.
So, "YankeeGo Home" will be banned.
How? Yankee isn'ta country.

“这些例子包括威胁杀害某些国籍的人和极端侮辱，比如把某类人群比喻成虫子，比如蟑螂或其他动物，或者发表像“滚回你的国家去”之类的评论。”
某些国籍？那么对其他的就没有问题？威胁杀害任何国籍的任何人都是仇恨言论，无论他们来自哪里。
那么，不能说“美国佬滚回家”了。
美国佬不是一个国家。

LagunaFeb. 05,2017 - 07:49AM JST
Well, thatcertainly makes Trump a lawbreaker in Japan.

好吧，床破在日本将会触犯法律。

Daniel NaumoffFeb.05, 2017 - 07:50AM JST
You can not tellthe country to go home. Not in our reality, it would be... insane. By thissimple logical conclusion I hereby deduce Yankee some kind of a group ofpeople, and by drawing parallels between the phrase "Yankee Go Home"and the sentence, as presented in the article, "go back to your homecountry", I fathom the whole picture, where you can, by means of logic,consider "Yankee Go Home" a hate-speech. But since this is a stupidsport phrase only idiots will do so.

你不能让一个国家滚回家。但是这个简单的逻辑是美国佬属于某类人群，所以“美国老滚回家”和文章中所说的“滚回你的国家去”是一样的，从逻辑上看，“美国老滚回家”是仇恨言论。但是这是个愚蠢的短语，只有傻子才会用。

Dan LewisFeb. 05,2017 - 08:10AM JST
So that whole"we don't rent to foreigners" thing is actually going to be illegal?

所以这句“我不租给外国人”事实上就是违法的了？

paulinusaFeb. 05,2017 - 08:31AM JST
"The examplesinclude threats to kill people of certain nationalities..."
Not sure what thismeans exactly. I would think a threat to kill (anyone) is a crime.

“这些例子包括威胁杀害某些国籍的人”
我不确定到底是什么意思。我认为威胁杀害任何人都是违法的。

Daniel NaumoffFeb.05, 2017 - 08:33AM JST
We are at thispoint when you can not discern foolish jokes from eccentric threats, thus rulesare needed to draw the boundaries.

我们要明白，你无法分辨哪些是愚蠢的笑话，那些是反常的威胁，因此法规要设定好界限。

StrangerlandFeb.05, 2017 - 08:34AM JST
Yankee in Japandoes not mean American. It means 'young kid' and has a nuance of 'young punk'.

Yankee一词在日本并不指美国人。他的意思是“年轻的小孩”，与“年轻无知的人”差别不大。

YubaruFeb. 05,2017 - 08:35AM JST
自分の国に帰れ。。Jibunno kuni ni kaere, is being literally translated here "go back to your homecountry." A more practical use translation would be "Go home" ormore liberally "Go back where you came from"
This is commonlyused by many Japanese when they face a situation with a foreigner that they cannot deal with, like when a foreigner makes a disparaging comment about Japan orthe Japanese people or is asking "why" about whatever.
Out of frustrationand stupid often times misguided "pride" at being Japanese anddifferent, they will use this phrase or adjust it to; "If you dont like ithere go home"
However with theanti-hate speech guidelines, these are for the most part, are going to be usedagainst the anti-Korean hate groups here in Japan. They are the focus of thehate-speech problems.

自分の国に帰れ。。Jibunno kuni ni kaere,翻译成“滚回你的国家”。更多时候翻译成“回家”或者“从哪来回哪去”。
很多日本人经常使用这些词语，当面对外国人不知道说什么时，比如外国人鄙视日本或日本人，或者对什么都问为什么时。
不考虑失望和愚蠢经常误导的作为日本人的自豪感，他们经常使用这句话，或者改成“如果不喜欢那就回家去”。
但是这个反憎恨指导，大部分是为了日本的反韩团体。他们是仇恨言论的重点关注对象。

katsu78Feb. 05,2017 - 10:46AM JST
YubaruFEB. 05,2017 - 07:33AM JST This is commonly used by many Japanese when they face asituation with a foreigner that they can not deal with,
"Commonly"used? I've been here for many years and not heard it used once.

经常会用？我在这好几年了，一次都没听到过。

Hellokitty123Feb.05, 2017 - 10:53AM JST
I agree withkatsu78 regarding Yubaru's comment "This is commonly used by many Japanesewhen they face a situation with a foreigner that they can not deal with" Ihave been in Japan for over 40 years and I have yet to hear it.

我同意楼上的，我在日本40年了，头一次听到。

StrangerlandFeb.05, 2017 - 11:05AM JST
As with Katsu andHelloKitty I have not heard it either, however Yubaru lives in Okinawa, so itmay be something they do there due to the American presence.

我也没听过，但是楼上的网友生活在冲绳，所以因为美国人的表现可能他们那会这么说。

MsDeliciousFeb.05, 2017 - 11:28AM JST
I was told to goback to America for complaining about a smoker in a restaurant.

我对一个在餐馆里抽烟的美国人说了滚回美国。

M3M3M3Feb. 05,2017 - 08:47AM JST
I think this is adecent compromise. It allows local governments to deny permits to certain hategroups and allows people to bring their own lawsuits (like the North Koreanschool did), but it doesn't set the government loose trying to fine people orsilence them.
I don't reallybelieve in criminalising speech, particularly when there are already lawsdealing with threats and intimidation. You inevitably end up setting the stagefor people like Donald Trump and Nigel Farage when millions of people think thattheir voices have been silenced by political correctness. We should be free tofully discuss all ideas, especially the bad ones since those are the ones thatneed to be discredited.

我认为这是体面地妥协。允许地方政府拒绝承认某些仇恨团体，允许人民去自己诉诸法律（就像北朝鲜学校所做的），但是没有放任政府去处罚和禁声。
我不太相信会宣判违法言论，特别是已经有相关威胁和恐吓的法律的情况下。当数百万人认为他们的声音被政治正确所禁声时，不能为像特朗普和奈杰尔法拉奇这样的人创造条件。我们应该充分讨论各种意见，特别是不好的意见，因为那些意见需要受到质疑。

lucabrasiFeb. 05,2017 - 09:01AM JST
It may well be acrime to threaten people in general ("Kill everyone!"), but itbecomes a hate crime when a certain nationality is singled out ("Kill allxxxxs!")
Surely that's thepoint of providing examples.

威胁所有人有充分理由是犯罪（比如“杀了所有人！”），但是某个国籍被单独提出来时就变成了仇恨罪（比如“杀了所有xxxx！”）
毫无疑问这才是提出例子的目的。

CaptDingleheimerFeb.05, 2017 - 09:06AM JST
If you riskgetting your jaw busted when you holler it in someone's face, it might be hatespeech. No government has any business deciding what can come out of anyone'smouth.

如果你向别人发牢骚，可能就是憎恨言论。没有哪个政府可以决定人们该说什么不该说什么。

katsu78Feb. 05,2017 - 10:46AM JST
CaptDingleheimerFEB.05, 2017 - 09:06AM JST No government has any business deciding what can comeout of anyone's mouth.
Every singlegovernment in the world is on the line, they are calling to disagree with you.

楼上，这个世界上的每一个政府都在这么做。

smithinjapanFeb.05, 2017 - 10:23AM JST
It's good thatthey are starting to specify some examples of what constitutes hate, but itstill means nothing if there is zero punishment.

开始关注那些组成憎恨的例子是个好的开始，但是零惩罚还是无济于事。

sf2kFeb. 05, 2017- 11:34AM JST
without jailsentences to back it up it's just more wishy washy laws

不关监狱就是空洞无用的法律。

commanteerFeb. 05,2017 - 12:49PM JST
In my experience,it seems to be very non-progressive types like the religious who are the mostsensitive to and react most violently to "hate speech".
Like those anti-free-speechrioters in Berkeley and Portland? I agree that hate speech laws are simply antifree speech laws dressed up in attractive clothing. Free speech is essential todemocracy - that's not even debatable.
I also agree thatthe censorious attitudes toward working class opinion in the US was the biggestreason Trump became president. It forced people to bottle up their opinionsuntil they exploded with an angry protest vote. But at least they were notviolent.
The way to addressthe scum who stand outside elementary schools shouting abuse at Korean kids isthrough assault laws and disturbing the peace laws. Assault on a child is anespecially serious crime.
But racists whomanage to restrain themselves to civil discussion should be allowed to beheard, and be answered. By trying to stamp out their voice, you give them morecredence. Let the whole world see how stupid they are.

以我的经验，这就像对憎恨言论反应最敏感最暴力的宗教一样并不是进步。
像伯克利和波兰的反言论自由的暴民一样？我认为反憎恨法律就像是包装精美的反言论自由的法律。言论自由是民主的必要组成，这甚至无需讨论。
对美国工薪阶层的态度是特朗普当上总统的最大原因。忽略他们的意见直到他们忍无可忍开始愤怒投票。但是至少他们没有诉诸暴力。
通过触犯法律的方式在小学外面大声辱骂朝鲜小孩。袭击孩子是特别严重的犯罪。
但是自我封闭的种族主义者的声音应该被听到，并得到回答。通过消灭他们的声音，你给了他们更多的借口。应该让全世界看看他们有多蠢。

slowguy2Feb. 05,2017 - 02:55PM JST
Obviously,"threats to kill people of certain nationalities and extreme insults likecomparing certain groups of people to bugs such as roaches" is asurgically precise targeting of the anti-Korean/zainichi crowd, although itneglects other popular slogans such as "Throw stones at Koreans" and"Rape Korean women".
Anyway, for thosewesterners here who have never heard "Go back where you came from"before in Japan -- now you can: "Hwaito piggu go home!"* at the linkbelow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FYuYkPgDkk*

非常精准的瞄准了反朝团体，虽然忽视了其他时髦的口号，比如“向韩国人扔石头”和“强奸韩国女人”。
不管怎么说，对于那些从来没有在日本听到过“哪来哪去”的西方人，现在你们在下面的连接中可以听到："Hwaito piggu go home!"。

StrangerlandFeb.05, 2017 - 02:59PM JST
Anyway, for thosewesterners here who have never heard "Go back where you came from"before in Japan -- now you can: "Hwaito piggu go home!"* at the linkbelow:
Oh, I'm sure it'ssaid. And actually after writing my post I thought back to an incident I had onthe train around 2000, where a guy was spouting some stuff about me beingAmerican (I'm not), and very well may have told me to go home, though my Japanesewasn't good enough at the time to understand most of what he was talking about.But, the claim was that it's a common thing to have said to one, and in myexperience it's not only hardly common, it never happens to me.

哦，我确信有人说这样的话。事实上我会想起大约在2000年左右，我在火车上，有个家伙向我吼一些我是美国人之类的话（我不是美国人），和让我滚回老家，虽然那时我的日语不够好，不能听懂他说的大部分内容。但是这些话是很平常的事情，以我的经验，并不是那么罕见和从来没听过。

jansob1Feb. 05,2017 - 03:44PM JST
Only once in 12years, and it was a drunk guy whose colleagues apologized as they hustled himaway....not a big problem for me (white American). But some of my Chinese andKorean students say it happens now and then when they are speaking their nativelanguage.

12年里我遇到一次，一个喝高了的家伙说的，他的同事道了歉然后把他拉开了…，对我来讲这不是什么大问题（我是美国白人）。但是我的中国和韩国学生说当他们讲母语时这种事情时有发生。

borschtFeb. 05,2017 - 04:03PM JST
I've never beentold to "Go home!" But I have been told I should "LeaveJapan" with the implication that it would be to wherever it was I camefrom. Mostly by the same person. My wife. During "honest"discussions.
I havecontemplated taking her up on the deal but now that I can't get in or gethealth insurance or social security... But I can live next to a mental patientwith an AK-47! Good times a' comin'!

我没被怼过“滚回老家”，但是确实被怼过“滚出日本”，暗示我哪来哪去。大部分是同一个人说的，我的老婆，在“坦率的”讨论期间说的。

talaraedokkoFeb.05, 2017 - 07:58PM JST
My wife was...is ayankee. So are some of her friends. No comment.

我老婆过去…现在是美国佬，他的一些朋友也是。就不评论了。

GyGeneFeb. 05,2017 - 09:38PM JST
When I first cameto Japan, I needed to take a train to a station called Yan Ki. I asked a trainman which platform went to Yan Ki. He said, "Yan Ki, go ho-mu."

当我第一次来日本的时候，我要乘火车去一个叫“Yan Ki”的地方。我问服务员哪个站台去“Yan Ki”，他说“Yan Ki, go ho-mu”。

tinawatanabeFeb.05, 2017 - 10:27PM JST
I asked a trainman which platform went to Yan Ki. He said, "Yan Ki, go ho-mu."
"ho-mu"means a platform in Japanese. He probably said "go ho-mu 3 (orsomething)" Besides, a train man would never be so rude.

"ho-mu"在日语里是站台的意思。他可能说“去3号站台或什么”，而且，服务员不会那么粗鲁。

shallotsFeb. 05,2017 - 11:20PM JST
...a misguidedendeavor for the Justice Ministry, which is very lackadaisical when it comes toenforcing ACTS contravening human rights. Hate Speech should be countered bylove speech...both a lazy society and a dangerous precedent.

懒惰的司法部的错误行为，出台了与人权抵触的法案。仇恨言论应该用关爱言论来抵消。懒惰的社会和危险的判例。

RealCDNFeb. 06,2017 - 06:11AM JST
I'll take freespeech any day.

老子想说啥就说啥。

sir_bentley28Feb.06, 2017 - 09:00AM JST
So how about wordslike "Gorilla, go back to Africa!" or "Saru-san" (Mr.Monkey) as I have been told on several occasions even though I'm not fromthere. Would these also be viewed as hate words?

那么像“大猩猩或者猴子，滚回非洲去！”呢？因为我曾经被这样说过几次，即使我不是来自那里。这些是否因该是仇恨言论？

Citizen2012Feb.06, 2017 - 10:01AM JST
questions remainabout its effectiveness as it lacks a clear definition of discriminatorylanguage and behavior. It also prescribes no punishment for using such languageor engaging in such behavior.
Why no punishment? How one can get compensation then ? That is, again, so typically Japanese toprovide a law and its loophole to avoid it when it is going against the rulingparty agenda.

但是它的效力依然存在问题，因为缺乏清晰地歧视性语言和行为的定义。它也没有规定使用了这些语言和实施了这些行为后有什么惩罚。
为什么没有惩罚？那么人们怎么得到赔偿？这就是又一次典型的日本方式，颁布一个法令，留下一个漏洞，当与执政党的议程相冲突时可以用这个漏洞规避。