特朗普威胁要将2500万墨西哥人送往日本 [日本媒体]

Trump threatened to send 25 millionMexicans to Japan

特朗普威胁要将2500万墨西哥人送往日本



At one point Trump described migration as a big problem for Europe then said to Abe: "Shinzo, you don't have this problem, but I can send you 25 million Mexicans and you'll be out of office very soon," according to an official quoted by the Wall Street Journal. Photo: AFP politics

特朗普曾一度将移民描述为欧洲的一个大问题，然后对安倍说：“晋三，你没有遭遇这个问题，但我能送你2500万墨西哥人，然后你很快就会被赶下台。”据《华尔街日报》所引用的一位官员的话说。照片来源：法新社政治版块

WASHINGTON
Donald Trump threatened Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe he would ship 25 million Mexicans to his country, one of a series of bizarre missives that jarred fellow leaders at last week's acrimonious G7 meet, according to a report on Friday.

华盛顿报道——
上周五公布的一份报告显示，唐纳德•特朗普威胁日本首相安倍晋三，称他将把2500万墨西哥人运送到他的国家。这是一系列令其他领导人在上周的G7会议上感到震惊的奇怪的信函中的一封。

The Group of Seven summit gathering of top industrialized democracies finished in disarray after the U.S. president abruptly rejected its consensus statement and bitterly attacked Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

在美国总统突然拒绝了G7共识声明（签字），并猛烈抨击加拿大总理贾斯廷•特鲁多之后，七国集团峰会在混乱中结束。

Behind the scenes, Trump's counterparts were dismayed by verbal jabs on topics ranging from trade to terrorism and migration, The Wall Street Journal said, quoting European officials who were present.

《华尔街日报》援引当时在场的欧洲官员的话称，在幕后，特朗普的同行们对从贸易到恐怖主义和移民等话题上的唇枪舌剑感到失望。

At one point he described migration as a big problem for Europe then said to Abe: "Shinzo, you don't have this problem, but I can send you 25 million Mexicans and you'll be out of office very soon," creating a sense of irritation in the room, according to an EU official.

特朗普曾一度将移民描述为欧洲的一个大问题，然后对安倍说：“晋三，你没有遭遇这个问题，但我能送你2500万墨西哥人，然后你很快就会被赶下台。” 据一名欧盟官员称，这句话让房间里的气氛变得紧张。

The source added that when the topic turned to Iran and terrorism, Trump took aim at French President Emmanuel Macron, saying: "You must know about this, Emmanuel, because all the terrorists are in Paris."

消息人士还说，当话题转到伊朗和恐怖主义时，特朗普把矛头对准了法国总统埃马纽埃尔•马克龙，他说：“埃马纽埃尔，你必须知道这一点，因为所有的恐怖分子都在巴黎。”

European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker also came under fire and was repeatedly described by Trump as a "brutal killer" in reference to the bloc's antitrust and tax fines against U.S. tech companies that have run into billions of dollars.

欧盟委员会主席让-克劳德•容克也受到了抨击，特朗普多次将其形容为“残忍的杀手”，指的是欧盟针对美国科技公司的已高达数十亿美元的反垄断和税务罚款。

Bitter differences over trade dominated the summit hosted by Canada, with leaders of the world's largest economies lining up against Trump's threats to impose stiff tariffs on imported steel and aluminum.

在加拿大举行的峰会上，围绕贸易的激烈分歧占据了主导地位。世界上最大经济体的领导人都在反对特朗普威胁对进口钢材和铝征收高额关税的威胁。

After rejecting the joint statement, Trump and his top aides assailed Trudeau, accusing him of dishonesty and betrayal.

在拒绝了联合声明（签字）后，特朗普和他的高级助手们抨击特鲁多，指责他的不诚实和背叛行为。

Trump on Friday rejected reports of discord, blaming the "Fake News Media" on Twitter for portraying a false picture while posting several photos of himself appearing to get along well with fellow G7 leaders.

周五，特朗普拒绝了有关不和的报道，他指责“假新闻媒体”在推特上描绘了一幅虚假的画面，同时发布了几张自己似乎与七国集团领导人相处融洽的照片。

katsu78
June 16 04:13 pm JST
Trump hates Mexicans. The GOP adopted his bigotry. The GOP enables it. Bigotry is their brand.

特朗普讨厌墨西哥人。共和党采纳了他的偏见看法。共和党支持它。偏见是他们的品牌。

Ganbare Japan!
June 16 04:16 pm JST
Trump is a great Leader, and PM Abe is very, very close to him. Their Summits are always a success.But I cannot understand this. Why would he propose sending Mexican immigrants (maybe criminals) to Japan? Japan will decide its own immigrant policies. Japan does not want the problems of the USA with drugs, crime, gangs and terrorism.

特朗普是一位伟大的领袖，而安倍与他的关系非常密切。他们的峰会总是成功的。但我无法理解。他为什么要向日本派遣墨西哥移民（也许是罪犯）？日本会自主决定自己的移民政策。日本不希望有美国的问题与毒品、犯罪、帮派和恐怖主义有关。

marcelito
June 16 04:16 pm JST
"Shinzo, you don't have this problem, but I can send you 25 million Mexicans and you'll be out of office very soon," creating a sense of irritation in the room, according to an EU official.
That would be a dream come true...Japan would have no more worries about labour shortages.
Do it Dony ...lol.:)

“‘晋三，你没有遭遇这个问题，但我能送你2500万墨西哥人，然后你很快就会被赶下台。’据一名欧盟官员称，这句话让房间里的气氛变得紧张。”
那将是一种“梦想成真”……日本将不再担心劳动力短缺。
干吧，普酱……呵呵。:)

gogogo
June 16 04:25 pm JST
Funly enough it would solve the population problem

太有趣了，这么做能解决人口问题

M3M3M3
June 16 04:27 pm JST
Clickbait headline. It was a crude and idiotic failure of a joke, not a threat. It's this sort of thing that explains why trust in the media is at record lows.

标题党。这是一个拙劣的、愚蠢的笑话，而不是威胁。正是这类事情解释了为什么（社会）对媒体的信任处于历史最低水平。

Luis David Yanez
June 16 04:32 pm JST
Donny, Donny, this kind of bigotry is lost in translation.
If you said "Koreans" instead of "Mexicans", then Abe would have laughed with you.

普酱，普酱，这种偏见在翻译中提现不出来了。
如果你说“韩国人”而不是“墨西哥人”，那么安倍会和你一起乐呵。

zichi
June 16 04:36 pm JST
More tramp than Trump!

比特朗普更特朗普！

Wc62six
June 16 04:49 pm JST
"Shinzo, you don't have this problem, but I can send you 25 million Mexicans and you'll be out of office very soon,"
The Japanese gov would never allow that. They’d be deported quickly. But in the USA, they could just hide in some sanctuary city. Pathetic!!

“‘晋三，你没有遭遇这个问题，但我能送你2500万墨西哥人，然后你很快就会被赶下台。’”
日本政府绝不会允许这样做。他们会很快被驱逐出境。但在美国，他们可以躲在某个避难所。可悲! !

Yubaru
June 16 05:01 pm JST
A crude as Trump can be, and it's a cherry picked comment, telling Abe this was Trump's way of saying, "Keep out the immigrants", something that both agree upon.

特朗普可能是一个粗鲁的人，这是一种选择性的评论，他告诉安倍，这是特朗普说的“阻止移民”的方式，这是双方都同意的。

Matt Hartwell
June 16 05:22 pm JST
At one point he described migration as a big problem for Europe then said to Abe: "Shinzo, you don't have this problem, but I can send you 25 million Mexicans and you'll be out of office very soon," creating a sense of irritation in the room, according to an EU official.
Trumps attempts at humour in trying to emphasis a point that illegal immigration, in big numbers, is not welcomed, not just by the U.S but everywhere on the planet.
The figures are a bit off if he is talking about Europe. Something like 1 million - 1.5 million since 2014/2015. Still, thats enough to make many European countries nervous because they continue to arrive in Italy on weekly basis.

“特朗普曾一度将移民描述为欧洲的一个大问题，然后对安倍说：‘晋三，你没有遭遇这个问题，但我能送你2500万墨西哥人，然后你很快就会被赶下台。’据一名欧盟官员称，这句话让房间里的气氛变得紧张。”
特朗普试图用幽默来强调一个观点，即大量的非法移民不受欢迎，不只是美国不欢迎，在地球上的任何地方都不欢迎。
如果他说的是欧洲，那么数据就有点不太准确。从2014年到2015年，移民数量大约有100万到150万。尽管如此，这还是足以让许多欧洲国家感到紧张，因为他们每周都要抵达意大利。

kwatt
June 16 05:41 pm JST
Trump really doesn't have any decency at all to foreign top leaders. He knows It is impossible for anyone to be able to send 2.5 milions to Japan or other countries. Mexican migrants illegally try to enter America for a long time, it seems America's fate and gun shooting killing each other is also its fate. So finish up to build long walls very quickly.

特朗普对外国高层领导人一点都不正派。他知道，任何人都不可能向日本或其他国家派遣2500万移民。墨西哥移民试图非法进入美国已经有很长一段时间了，似乎美国的命运和枪击事件互相残杀也是墨西哥的命运。所以，快把边境长墙建好。

Disillusioned
June 16 05:43 pm JST
Trump will not last much longer in office, so no need to get worried about anything this fool says.

特朗普的任期不会持续太久，所以没有必要担心这个傻瓜说的话。

since1981
June 16 05:46 pm JST
Headline so misleading. He didn't "threaten" to do so! Media really needs to chill some!

标题太误导了。他没有“威胁”这么做！媒体真的需要浇点冷水！

Laguna
June 16 05:48 pm JST
Funly enough it would solve the population problem
...and would also add a bit of spice to the cuisine - assuming ingredients are available.

“太有趣了，这么做能解决人口问题”
……而且还会为烹饪增添一点情趣——假设原料是可用的。

Yubaru
June 16 05:49 pm JST
Trump will not last much longer in office, so no need to get worried about anything this fool says.
So, how long is "not much longer" to you? He has at least two more years, and if that isn't "not much longer" to you I hate to imagine what "long" is!

“特朗普的任期不会持续太久，所以没有必要担心这个傻瓜说的话。”
那么，“不太久”对你来说是多久？他至少还有两年的时间，如果这对你来说不是“太久”，我就不愿意去想象“久”是什么！

Fouxdefa
June 16 05:54 pm JST
As if the remarks themselves weren't bad enough, the use of the word "threaten" is just as reprehensible. It sounds like the writer of this article also thinks "Mexicans" are somehow bad!

似乎这些言论本身还不够糟糕，使用“威胁”一词也应该受到谴责。听起来，这篇文章的作者也认为“墨西哥人”在某种程度上是坏的！

Hakman
June 16 05:57 pm JST
Totally unverified and should be taken with the utmost skepticism.
But because this fits nicely with certain people's politics, especially the media's, it will be treated as if it's the gospel truth.
While his performance in office hasn't been perfect, overall Trump is doing a rather good job -- and some people just can't stand that.
Hence their psychological and political need to do anything to derail, de-legitimize, and discredit him.
Again, there's no evidence of this, other than someone's say-so.

该消息完全未经证实，应该以最大的怀疑态度对待。
但因为这与某些人的政治，尤其是媒体的政治相吻合，它将被视为是福音的真理。
尽管他在办公室的表现并不完美，但总体而言，特朗普的表现相当不错——有些人就是无法忍受。
因此，他们的心理和政治需要做任何事情来破坏、合法化和败坏他的名声。
再强调一次，除了某人的说法，没有证据表明这一点。

Seth M
June 16 05:58 pm JST
His remarks in this article sound really troubling, or even delirium.
Only drunk or insane people say things like this.
He also seems to like Kim and Putin very much... chill down the spine

他在这篇文章中的评论听起来确实令人不安，甚至是精神错乱。
只有喝醉了或者疯了的人才会这样说。
他似乎也很喜欢金和普京……让人背后发凉

shashank
June 16 06:04 pm JST
Trump really knows what he is saying.
Mass Migration is the last thing LDP & Abe will support

特朗普很清楚他在说什么。
大规模移民是自民党和安倍支持的最后一件事

Cosmos1
June 16 06:05 pm JST
I'd marry a Mexanese woman

我想取墨西哥老婆

cleo
June 16 06:18 pm JST
It seems Trump can't tell the difference between what's appropriate for private bar-room banter between tipsy mates who aren't going to remember the conversation come morning, and what's appropriate for a public meeting of the world's top heads of state.
And a third of the American voting public actually support this lowlife??

似乎特朗普无法区分出哪些才是适合私人酒吧里那些睡一觉就什么都不记得了的醉鬼们开的玩笑，哪些是适合世界顶级国家元首的公开会议上开的。
三分之一的美国选民实际上支持这种低low货？？

Udondashi
June 16 06:22 pm JST
I like trump, I wish Japan had a leader like him.

我喜欢特朗普，我希望日本有像他这样的领导人。

Udondashi
June 16 06:30 pm JST
Dont worry Mr Trump, Japan has a ticking time bomb with 1.5 billion people eager to immigrate to Japan.

别担心特朗普，日本有一颗定时炸弹——有15亿人渴望移民到日本。

Schopenhauer
June 16 06:33 pm JST
The headline is misleading. Trump just said how hard for U.S. having so many illegal immigrants from Mexico.

标题是误导性的。特朗普刚刚说，美国有这么多来自墨西哥的非法移民是多么的困难。

theFu
June 16 07:40 pm JST
Trump was using hyperbole trying to simplify and make clear understanding. Japan allows few immigrants and almost zero asylum seekers. Abe and Japan have next to no understanding about having 2K uninvited people show up monthly to live in their country and sneaking in.
We know that he isn't elegant, highly insensitive, often offensive, and usually puts his foot in his mount. That is what he did here, again.
BTW, it impossible to ship 25M people anywhere. That's over 70K trips in airliners or over 5000 huge cruise ship trips.
Trump has a habit of grouping all Mexicans with those millions who illegally entered the USA, which is bad. There are many more millions who came to the USA legally.

特朗普使用了夸张的手法，试图简化被明确传达的信息。日本几乎不允许移民，几乎不允许寻求避难者。安倍和日本几乎不知道每月会有2千名不请自来的人出现在他们的国家，然后偷偷混进日本。
我们知道，特朗普不优雅，不敏感，常常冒犯人，而且总是把脚放在座驾上。这就是他再一次在这里所做的。
顺便说一句，不可能运送2500万人去哪里。这需要超过7万架次航班或者超过5000航班的大型游轮。
特朗普有个习惯，把所有墨西哥人都和那些非法进入美国的数百万墨西哥人混为一谈，这很糟糕。有更多的人是合法地来到美国的。

MiaTanaka
June 16 10:13 pm JST
On one side, ABE did deserve to hear this. Mainly due to the way even hardworking Koreans are treated in Japan to this day.
On the other, he's a bit off with Europe. Sure Europe has a lot of immigrants, but even if you exclude Russia, Europe is almost twice the size of the U.S in population and remains 90-93% white to this day.
Europe's problems aren't immigrants, nor "muslims" per se;
We've got a ton of Asians here who work really hard and assimilate, we also have native muslims in Bosnia whom you never see any hatred for.
The issue is the huge amount of recent arrivals that are forced upon a small amount of nations, and the overwhelming amount of these new arrivals (90-95%) are of muslim faith, which does bring a huge strain on integration, thus leading to conflict.
Europe as a whole is a lot more welcoming than the U.S. There isn't a single "anti black" or "anti asian" party in Europe that I know of. Because, we don't have the issue with them. Its the religion, and the huge influx, that causes the issue.
Europeans have dealt with both world wars on its soil, and the last thing they want is terrorism, and more uncertainty, and definitely not another war (or a civil war for that matter).

一方面，安倍确实应该听到这些。这主要是因为即使是辛勤工作的韩国人，直到今天在日本也是如此被对待。
另一方面，他与欧洲的关系有点远。当然，欧洲有很多移民，但即使把俄罗斯排除在外，欧洲的规模也几乎是美国的两倍。至今仍有90-93%的白人。
欧洲的问题不是移民，也不是“穆斯林”本身；
我们这里有很多亚洲人，他们工作非常努力，也很容易被同化，我们在波斯尼亚也有当地的穆斯林，你们从来没有看到过他们的仇恨一面。
问题是，最近的大量移民是强加给少数国家的，而这些新移民的绝大部分（90-95%）都是穆斯林，这确实给当地融合带来了巨大压力，从而导致了冲突。
欧洲作为一个整体比美国更受欢迎。据我所知，欧洲没有一个“反黑”或“反亚洲”的政党。因为我们和这些问题无关。是宗教和大量的人口涌入造成了这个问题。
欧洲人在自己的国土上经历了两次世界大战，他们最不想看到的就是恐怖主义，以及更多的不确定性，而绝不是另一场战争（或者内战）。

Netgrump
June 17 03:24 am JST
Europe as a whole is a lot more welcoming than the U.S. There isn't a single "anti black" or "anti asian" party in Europe that I know of. Because, we don't have the issue with them. Its the religion, and the huge influx, that causes the issue.
Good observation but that doesn't mean that they don't face racism or exclusion. The National Front of the UK can definitely be seen as an 'anti-black and 'anti asian' party.
The 'Front Nationale' in France on the other hand has Arab and Black supporters. It's a known 'phenomenon' that minorities living for ages in predominantly white countries are often 'hostile' towards 'newcomers' of the same background.
You've Vietnamese communities in the Czech Republic, Slovakia and the Eastern part of Germany due to aid for labor agreements between Vietnam and their former Eastern-european comrades. There were issues in the past, illegal cigarette business for example, and there are issues nowadays but you can't compare that with the hostility towards Roma and Sinti in those countries who came originally from the Indian peninsula.
the overwhelming amount of these new arrivals (90-95%) are of muslim faith, which does bring a huge strain on integration, thus leading to conflict.
For successful integration you need 2 parties and when the ruling party does nothing about segregation and exclusion that process will not succeed. People of muslim faith on the other hand have to accept the rules in their new [host] country and the fact that they have to share space with other faiths or people with no faith.

“欧洲作为一个整体比美国更受欢迎。据我所知，欧洲没有一个‘反黑’”或‘反亚洲’的政党。因为我们和这些问题无关。是宗教和大量的人口涌入造成了这个问题”
观察的不错，但这并不意味着他们不会面针种族主义或排斥他们。英国国民阵线（National Front）绝对可以被视为一个“反黑”和“反亚洲”的政党。
另一方面，法国的“国民阵线”有阿拉伯和黑人的支持者。在白人占主导地位的国家里生活了很长一段时间的少数民族往往对同样背景的“新移民”怀有“敌意”，这是一个众所周知的“现象”。
捷克共和国、斯洛伐克和德国东部的越南人社区，因为越南和他们以前的东欧同志之间的劳动协议得到了援助。过去有一些问题，比如非法烟草生意，现在也有一些问题，但是你无法将这些问题与那些来自印度半岛的国家对罗姆人和辛蒂的敌意相比。
“而这些新移民的绝大部分（90-95%）都是穆斯林，这确实给当地融合带来了巨大压力，从而导致了冲突”
为了成功的融合，你需要两个政党，当执政党对种族隔离和排斥无动于衷时，这个过程就不会成功。另一方面，有穆斯林信仰的人必须接受新（东道国）的规则，必须与其他信仰或无信仰的人分享空间。

Slickdrifter
June 17 02:00 pm JST
The comments made at G7. President Trump was obviously being sarcastic and facetious out of frustration. It does not matter what side of isle you are on or somewhere in the middle road. Trade in its current state is very unfair right now for the American people. Has been for decades. Change is very painful. Trump does not like to impose tariffs in my opinion. That is just my opinion and mine alone. If you agree. Cool. If you do not. That's cool too. Strategically. He does not have any other viable options right now other than increasing tariffs.

特朗普总统显然是出于沮丧而讽刺和幽默，才说出G7会议上的那些话的。你站在哪一边，还是保持中立都不重要。目前的贸易对美国人民来说是非常不公平的。已经几十年了。改变是非常痛苦的。在我看来，特朗普不喜欢征收关税。这只是我个人的看法。如果你同意。酷。如果你不。那也很酷。战略。除了提高关税，他目前没有其他可行的选择。

Strangerland
June 17 02:06 pm JST
As far as the sitting President of my country. The comments made at G7. President Trump was obviously being sarcastic and facetious out of frustration.
Since I first heard his comments, until now, I have not once thought Trump was being sarcastic or speaking out of frustration. What you are declaring as obvious is not obvious at all.
Trade in its current state is very unfair right now for the American people. Has been for decades.
America - biggest country in the world, biggest victim complex in the world.
One thing I've realized in the past couple of decades is that in America, if someone repeats something enough, a significant number of Americans will believe it, regardless of how ridiculous the concept is. The above is a prime example of that. These people truly believe America is being screwed, not realizing that that's not the case at all. America is rich. Not well off, not even prosperous, but straight up rich. That said, there is a HUGE income disparity. The people feel poor, and when Trump makes these unsupported claims about America being screwed by trade, they believe it, instead of seeing that it's not America getting screwed by trade, it's that the money goes to Trump and the elite. They are right to be angry about the tough times they live in, but they are mistakenly appropriating blame on the wrong parties.
If America wants to fix its income problems, it needs to look inward, not outward.

就我国家的现任总统而言。“特朗普总统显然是出于沮丧而讽刺和幽默，才说出G7会议上的那些话的”
自从我第一次听到他的话，到现在为止，我从来没有想过特朗普是在挖苦人，或者是出于沮丧。你所宣称的明显一点也不明显。
“目前的贸易对美国人民来说是非常不公平的。已经几十年了”
美国——世界上最大的国家，世界上最大的受害者群体。
在过去的几十年里，我意识到在美国，如果某种说法有人重复了足够多遍，很多美国人就都会相信它，不管这个概念有多荒谬。上面的例子就是一个很好的例子。这些人真的相信美国被搞砸了，没有意识到这根本不是事实。美国很富。不是相对富裕，甚至也不是兴旺繁荣，就是开门见山地很富。这就是说，存在巨大的收入差距。人们感到贫穷，当特朗普发表这些毫无根据的言论，称美国被贸易搞砸时，他们就相信了，而不是看到美国不是被贸易搞砸了，而是钱都流向了特朗普和精英阶层。他们对自己所处的艰难时期感到愤怒是正确的，但他们错误地把责任推给了错误的一方。
如果美国想要解决其收入不均问题，它需要着眼于内部，而不是外部。