土耳其称俄罗斯战机入侵领空并无视多次警告 [日本媒体]

Turkey says Russian jet violated itsairspace, ignored repeated warnings

土耳其称俄罗斯战机入侵领空并无视多次警告



MOSCOW —Turkey shot down a Russian warplaneon Tuesday that it said ignored repeated warnings and crossed into its airspacefrom Syria, killing at least one of the two pilots in a long-feared escalationin tensions between Russia and NATO. Russian President Vladimir Putin denouncedwhat he called a “stab in the back” and warned of “significant consequences.

莫斯科——周二土耳其击落一架俄罗斯战机，称该战机无视多次警告并从叙利亚进入其领空，导致一名俄罗斯飞行员死亡，俄罗斯和北约的紧张关系终于在人们的担忧中升级。俄罗斯总统普京称这是“暗箭伤人”并给予谴责，并警告会产生“严重后果”。


CrazyJoeNOV. 25, 2015 - 07:38AM JST
Turkey is a covert supporter of ISIS. Firstmove: kick them out of NATO.

土耳其是ISIS的秘密支持者。第一步：将土耳其踢出北约。

Burning BushNOV. 25, 2015 - 07:39AM JST
The pilots of the downed Su-24 ejected, butone was killed by Syrian rebel fire from the ground as he parachuted to Earth
At least we know the breed and character ofthese so-called "moderate" rebels.
They kill the pilot in cold blood and cheerAllah Akbar joyfully.
Moderates or Terrorists... You decide.

两名飞行员跳伞逃生了，但是其中一名在降落时被叙利亚反对派的地面火力杀死。
至少我们知道了这些所谓的“温和派”反叛分子的真面目。
他们冷血的杀死了飞行员，然后兴高采烈的欢呼真主至大。
是温和分子还是恐怖分子，你自己判断。

JoeintokyoNOV. 25, 2015 - 08:09AM JST
Moderates or Terrorists... You decide.
Imported Uighur and Uzbek Islamistextremists--I'll go with the latter. Russia is going to pound these"Turkmen" positions hard.

“是温和分子还是恐怖分子，你自己判断。”
进口的维吾尔人和乌兹别克伊斯兰极端分子——我选后者。俄罗斯将把这些“土耳其人”的阵地打击得粉碎。

Alix HooperNOV. 25, 2015 - 08:12AM JST
US - Russia proxy war begins.

美俄代理战争开始了。

Doo-BopNOV. 25, 2015 - 08:20AM JST
In 2012, when Syria shot down a Turkish F-4Phantom, an outraged Erdogan said that: "A short-term border violation cannever be a pretext for an attack."
And I wonder if Turkey can provide anyproof that the Russian jet violated their airspace.

2012年，叙利亚击落了一架土耳其的F-4幽灵战机，愤怒的埃尔多安称：“短时的边界侵犯不能成为袭击的借口。”
而我想知道的是土耳其能提供任何证据证明俄罗斯战机侵犯了他们领空吗？

oharaNOV. 25, 2015 - 08:29AM JST
I agree - Turkey should be kicked out ofNATO. It's a disgusting way to behave towards an ally in wartime. If we thinkback to a few months ago Turkey was demanding all kinds of"conditions" on its participation in any activity against ISIS. Putinis right, Turkey is an accomplice to terrorists.

我同意，土耳其应该被踢出北约。战时以这种方式对待盟友，真是太恶心了。几个月前，土耳其踢出一系列的条件，否则不参加针对ISIS的行动。普京是对的，土耳其是恐怖分子的同谋。

JoeintokyoNOV. 25, 2015 - 08:38AM JST
And I wonder if Turkey can provide anyproof that the Russian jet violated their airspace.
Looks like The Russian fighters were inTurkish airspace for all of 5 seconds:
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/11/radar%20path%20russian%20jet.jpg
Hardly a violation worthy of a shoot-down.The Turks had this planned out in advance. And I can guarantee you now that theRussians are just waiting for a Turk plane to venture a centimeter over theSyrian border. There will be payback.

“而我想知道的是土耳其能提供任何证据证明俄罗斯战机侵犯了他们领空吗？”
看起来这些俄罗斯战机只进入土耳其领空5秒钟：
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/11/radar%20path%20russian%20jet.jpg
侵犯领空也没有理解将人家击落。土耳其早就计划好了。我可以向你保证俄罗斯人现在正在等待土耳其战机稍微的飞越叙利亚领空。会付出代价的。

Burning BushNOV. 25, 2015 - 08:43AM JST
waiting for a Turk plane to venture a centimeterover the Syrian border.
What are you talking about? This happensall the time.
You as per NATO's blatantly hypocriticalstance, Turkish airspace is sovereign but Syrian airspace isn't.
You're right though, next time a NATO planeventures into Syria the Russians should issue a few token warnings and thenshoot it down with their S400. They would be well within International rules ifthey did so because Russia is operating legally in Syria, other countries likeTurkey aren't.

“我可以向你保证俄罗斯人现在正在等待土耳其战机稍微的飞越叙利亚领空”
你在说啥呢？土耳其战机一直在侵犯叙利亚领空。
根据北约公然虚伪的立场，土耳其的领空就是主权，而叙利亚领空就不是。
你说的对，接下来北约战机进入叙利亚时，俄罗斯人将发出几个象征性的警告，然后用S400击落。他们这么做将不违反国际规则，因为俄罗斯是在叙利亚进行合法的操作，而像土耳其等其他国家不是。

praackNOV. 25, 2015 - 08:57AM JST
turkey became very interesting severalyears back when the religious party won the elections: now turkey is a Muslimstate and is doing all it can to erase the secular past - all the way back tothe first world war.
the US supports them in nato because of thebases, but in reality- no - you cannot rely on turkey nor really trust them.

几年前土耳其变得非常有意思，当时宗教政党赢得了大选：现在土耳其变成了穆斯林国家，所以尽其所能的清除其世俗的过去——一直回到第一次世界大战时期。
美国在北约支持他们，是出于基地的原因，但是现实中，你不能依赖土耳其，也不能相信他们。

noriyosan73NOV. 25, 2015 - 09:00AM JST
There is no evidence that Russia hasdestroyed any IS targets. Russia has only tried to support Assad by bombing hisenemy. What is the positive outcome of the loss of the Russian fighter? Itproves that either Russia is sending inexperienced pilots on missions that itexpected no challenge to occur and/or (more likely or) the Russian builtfighter is inferior to the USA built F-16 fighter even if it piloted by a NATOpilot. Surprise, Russian built planes always have been inferior since day one.Russia has always used the "Big Bluff" to meet it objectives.

没有证据表明俄罗斯摧毁了任何的ISIS目标。俄罗斯只是通过轰炸其敌人来支持阿萨德。俄罗斯战机被击落的积极后果是什么？它证明了俄罗斯派遣没经验的飞行员去完成任务，以为不会受到什么挑战，或者说俄罗斯建造的战机次于美国建造的，即使开美国飞机的是北约飞行员。俄罗斯建造的飞机本来就比较差。俄罗斯总是使用“虚张声势”的手段来达成自己的目的。

ThePBotNOV. 25, 2015 - 09:11AM JST
Russian built fighter is inferior to theUSA built F-16 fighter even if it piloted by a NATO pilot. Surprise, Russianbuilt planes always have been inferior since day one. Russia has always usedthe "Big Bluff" to meet it objectives.
The downed Su-24 is not even a fighter jet,it's a bomber. It can hardly defend itself from a multi-role F-16.

楼上的，被击落的苏-24都不是战机，是轰炸机。根本无法和多用途的F16对抗。