向上的大跃进:中国珠江三角洲,彼时此时 [英国媒体]

过去几十年里,珠江流进南中国海区域成为人类历史上城市扩张最急速的地方—从1979年以农业土地为主的地区变成一个世界经济超级大国的制造业心脏地带。英国网友:中国过去三十年来由于政策的原因人口增长并不快速。中国的都市发展主要是因为人们从农村移民到城市。。。这和19、20世纪的欧、美没有不同。在未来的几年里,随着印度 人口超过中国,一系列相似城镇化过程无疑会更吓人。


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The region where the Pearl River flows into the South China Sea has seen some of the most rapid urban expansion in human history over the past few decades – transforming what was mostly agricultural land in 1979 into what is the manufacturing heartland of a global economic superpower today.

过去几十年里,珠江流进南中国海区域成为人类历史上城市扩张最急速的地方—从1979年以农业土地为主的地区变成一个世界经济超级大国的制造业心脏地带。

In 2008, China announced plans to mesh Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Dongguan, Zhaoqing, Foshan, Huizhou, Jiangmen, Zhongshan and Zhuhai into a single megacity. A series of massive infrastructure projects are under way to merge transport, energy, water and telecoms networks across the nine cities. Development has been relentless, and the World Bank recently named the Pearl River Delta as the biggest urban area in the world in terms of population and geographical size.

2008年,中国宣布建立广州、深圳、肇庆、佛山、惠州、江门、中山、珠海城市群的计划。一系列重大基础设施项目如交通、能源、水利以及电信网络正在覆盖这9座城市。随着其不断的发展,世界银行最近将珠江三角洲区域称为世界上人口最多和面积最大的城市群。

A 30-mile-long bridge and tunnel is under construction to join the Pearl River Delta metropolis of Zhuhai to the special administrative regions of Macau andHong Kong.

一段长达30公里的桥梁和隧道正在建设之中,它连接了珠江三角洲的重要中心珠海以及特别行政区澳门和香港。



香港



深圳



广州



澳门


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Kickthismobout 4h ago
Visited Guangzhou in 1980, many of the old houses which were built by the opium trade were wonderful, probably all pulled down now, there were some really poor areas too. Stayed in a hotel which was the only high rise, looked out over the river and onto a smog covered city. The old Zoo, Fun Park and markets were really interesting if not culturally difficult on the senses.
 
1980年去了广州,许多鸦片贸易时期建旧房子非常漂亮,现在也许都推倒了,那里也有一些真正的贫民区。呆在一个旅馆里面,这旅馆是唯一的高层建筑,看着外面的河流,以及被烟雾笼罩的城市,如果不是文化不同,老动物园、游乐园和市场十分有趣,

Don't think I'll bother again, looks horrible.

现在我可能不会再去了,看起来太丑了。
  
Kickthismobout  Kickthismobout 4h ago
Just re-read that, I guess many locals may prefer the life style they have now, so I guess me seeing it as some time capsule theme park can bee seen as culturally ignorant. I was talking more of me a visitor, the cultural shock was great for me.

重新读一下,我猜许多当地人会喜欢他们现在的生活方式,所以如果我把它视为胶囊主题公园的话,会被认为没文化,我多次提起我是一名游客,文化震撼对我而言是巨大的。

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WaterandSoil 4h ago
Wow! This is population explosion. Great article.
 
 哇哦!这就是人口扩张。很好的文章。
 
2Springers 4h ago
These slider photos are amazing. Visited Hong Kong and Macau in the late 70''s. Hong Kong seemed crowded then and now another 2.7m people.
 
 这些滚动的照片太神奇了。70年代去过香港和澳门。香港那是好像很拥挤,现在又比当时多出了270万人口。
 
2try2give 5h ago
The most important aspect of this sights are lost because there is no hint of what is inside the buildings.
One would be totally surprised to see miriads of rooms which would make Ali Baba discovery of the cave pale in comparison to the inside decorations of the halls
and flats.

这些景象的最重要的部分丢失了,因为我们看不到建筑里什么样子的。如果你能看到房间里面的装饰,你会发现阿里巴巴的宝藏发现简直不值一提。
 
The best of China is always hidden to the West by the West.

最好的中国总是隐藏在西部的西部。

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SammyShuiPo 5h ago
Why in your map of the Pearl River Delta area from Guangzhou to Hong Kong do you indicate Hong Kong to apparently comprise Central Hong Kong (once known as Victoria) to be Hong Kong?

从你广州到香港的珠江三角洲区域地图中,为什么你把香港标在香港市中心(维多利亚港)那里?

Why is the Groaniad apparently excluding Kowloon, the New Territories, as well as my beloved own district of Sham Shui Po from Hong Kong.

为什么the Groaniad要把九龙这个新区,以及我热爱的深水埗区排除在香港之外?
 
Shame on the Groaniad!

the Groaniad真可耻。
 
andoru  SammyShuiPo 5h ago
Umm ... because it's "Central Hong Kong"? They also have a single dot to indicate where the other cities are; the boundaries aren't shown. Using the downtown centre seems perfectly reasonable to me.

嗯……因为这是“香港市中心”?他们也用一个点标示其他城市所在;边界完全也没有标明。标示在市中心完全合理。

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StephenStephen 6h ago
The two different satellite pictures look like a  on thebacterial growth planet. It seems we haven't evolved that far from our ancient ancestors after all..

 这两张不同的卫星图看起来像是星球上的细菌增殖。跟祖先们比起来,我们似乎并没进化多少。。。
 
monaro74 7h ago
In the next 15 years we'll be forced to confront the metastasized, toxic sectors of corporate / political greed, corruption and the irrevocable damage to the environment. All facilitated by politicians interested on only making a quick buck at the expense of the people.

 在接下来的15年里,我们将不得不面对的转移,有毒行业的企业,政治贪腐,腐败和对环境的不可逆转性损害。(这些)都是政府官员凭兴趣推动的,为了快速实现财政受益,罔顾人民利益。
 
monaro74  monaro74 7h ago
What happened to the farmers, the fishermen, the land owners. Plenty of palms have been greased in china

那些农民,渔民,土地拥有者都怎样?中国太多行贿受贿。

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2try2give  monaro74 5h ago
What happened to the 90% of the farmers which lived in 1830 in Europe, when today they are only 10% subsided by the Common Market?
 
 1830年欧洲90%的农民身上发生了什么,今天他们中仅仅10%被欧共体补贴。
 
Bacon78 7h ago
This is incredible. The Shenzhen growth is quite phenomenal; albeit 42 years apart the mass of buildings is staggering.

 太不可思议了。深圳的发展是现象级的;仅仅42年时间就建成了这么多的高楼大厦。
  
kreltogs  Bacon78 4h ago
All built with Australia coal and steel and the clever hard working Chinese.
I think the pictures of our Circular Quay from 1971 would be the same today.save for the colour of the paint.

所有的建筑都是靠澳大利亚的煤铁,以及勤劳工作的中国人建起来的。
我想1971年建的悉尼环形码头的图片也和现在的一样。除了油漆的颜色。
 
Mufazza 7h ago
All this is constructive. Because it will hasten global warming so that it will have a substantial political effect in our life time, thank you Lord!

所有这些都是有建设性的。 因为它将加快全球变暖的,进而引发深层次的政治效应。感谢上帝!
 
Belay the Yellow River as You have the Pearl River! It will surely hasten the good progress!

保护黄河就像保护珠江!这样才能促进发展。

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mcs_095 7h ago
Fantastic pictures, really enjoyed them!

 这照片真是太棒了,好喜欢。
 
PonyBoyUK 7h ago
Is anyone else worried about what happens when their bubble collapses and the government pushes up the military in order to maintain growth????
 
 难道没人担心,当这个国家的经济泡沫破灭之后,政府用军事力量来维持经济增长吗?
 
agrotrend 7h ago
Given time humans can stuff up anything.
 
 只要老天许以时日,人似乎能干成任何事
 
sketpic 8h ago
Crossed the border from Hong Kong with my Canon to visit this region in 1988-few tourists even from HK then. Did not expect these pics showing what folk look liked then to be uploaded because the WWW seemed inconceivable but transparencies keep well in a dry box: https://www.flickr.com/photos/moonriverdiver/albums/72157632959932352

1988年的时候,我带着佳能从香港到内地来参观这个地区,甚至有些来自香港的游客,没想过我拍的这些照片可以上传互联网,因为当时根本不能想象互联网的存在,但是我的这些胶卷在干燥的盒子里保存的挺好的:https://www.flickr.com/photos/moonriverdiver/albums/72157632959932352

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mcs_095  sketpic 7h ago
Great pictures SketPic!
 
楼上的,你拍的这些照片好棒
 
Peter Morris 8h ago
Thanks for the great images, China is getting better every day.
 
感谢这些漂亮的照片
 中国每天都在变的更好
 
Bearmuchly 9h ago
and just think, this is within a China that has only seen modest population growth in the past 30 years !
Much of the urban growth has been the massive internal migration from rural to urban areas .......not dissimilar to Europe and the US
in the 19th and 20th Centuries....
With the Indian population to overtake the Chinese within the next few years, a similar series of that country would no doubt be even more frightening !

中国过去三十年来由于政策的原因人口增长并不快速。中国的都市发展主要是因为人们从农村移民到城市。。。这和19、20世纪的欧、美没有不同。
在未来的几年里,随着印度 人口超过中国,一系列相似城镇化过程无疑会更吓人。

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pinniped  Bearmuchly 8h ago
Most of the population growth of Shenzen is due to migration from other areas. The native language of Shenzen was Cantonese, but good luck finding someone in Shenzen who speaks Cantonese these days. The incredible development is due in large part to the Communist Party's economic reform programs which started over 30 years ago with Deng Xiaoping. I remember one year Shenzen was developing the Shenzen Special Economic Zone and a university was built .. and within a decade I just didn't recognize the place.

大部分的深圳人口的增长是来自从其他地区的迁移。深圳本地口音是粤语,但时至今日,已经很难在深圳找到讲粤语的的人。令人难以置信的发展,在很大程度上归功于30年前邓小平所领导的GCD经济改革。我记得那一年深圳被划作深圳经济特区并建造了大学...而不到十年我就已经认不出那个地方了。
 
opinionatedcanuck 9h ago
These demonstrate why there are now some very wealthy people in china.

这些解释了为什么现在中国存在一些非常富有的人。
 
Wombal 9h ago
And some people believe in immigration, greater economic activity and just 'build more houses' as being a solution for our future.

还有一些人相信移民,更多的经济活动,只要“建造更多的房子”就可以作为我们未来的解决方案。

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martinusher 10h ago
This is the effect of population growth in the face of a strict "one child per family" policy, a policy that's been constantly criticized in the West as infringing the human right to produce as many kids as possible.
That in itself is a bit of a warning.....

这是那个严格的“独生子女”政策所带来的人口增长效果。那个政策长期以来饱受西方国家的诟病,它侵犯了人类那尽一切可能要生无数孩子的权力。
这本身就是一个警告......

Britishtaxpayingmug  martinusher 9h ago
Scary thought eh? Glad I won't be around to suffer the consequences of over population and the pending wars for finite resources that must surely ensue.

是不是挺吓人的想法哈?很高兴我不会蹲那儿然后遭受人口膨胀的恶果,还有那一定会发生的对有限资源的争夺战。

Bearmuchly  martinusher 9h ago
and just think, India's population will overtake China's
within the next 3 or 4 years !

想想吧,印度的人口将在3-4年内赶超中国!
 
francesco_rome 10h ago
They'll bury us. The thought is only barely assuaged by knowing that they'll bury themselves under something, too.

他们会埋了我们!可稍微令我们感到安慰的是他们也将把他们自己给掩埋。

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AgeingAlbion 10h ago
One shudders to think of the environmental effects of all of this. Sadly, there's no way of slowing global population growth or urbanisation. Tempting to say we're doomed ...

一想到这些将带来的环境影响不禁虎躯一震。悲剧的是,没法遏制全球的人口增长和城市化进程。不得不说,我们在劫难逃...
 
HimandHim 10h ago
This is everyone's future--if the world's population growth continues.

这是所有人的未来——如果世界人口继续增长。
 
bcnteacher 11h ago
Amazing and sinister. The world being screwed up.

令人惊叹却又是不祥的,这个世界神经了。
  
coplani 11h ago
Cities are like dinosaurs...They grow and need more food to grow even bigger.
So where does that leave us humans.?
As in nature when there is competition for food, the strongest survives....
Is there competition for food today.?...Apparently not, but those creatures (cities /dinosaurs), continue to grow and grow.
About half of all peoples, live in there cities and modern communications ensures migration will increase to where the living is best...Cities.
There is no going back,,,,

城市像恐龙一样,它们成长,需要更多的食物长得更大。
那让我们人类呆在哪里呢?
正如在自然界中,有食物竞争,弱肉强食…
现今还有食物竞争吗?……显然不是,但是这些生物(城市/恐龙),继续增长和增长。
约有一半的人,生活在那些城市,而现代化的通讯则会确保迁徙还会向生活最好的城市增长...无法回头。

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coplani  coplani 11h ago
Today's news....
The UK's trade deficit for the first quarter is at its biggest since 2008.
The gap between imports and exports for the first three months of 2016 stands at £13.3bn, up from £12.2bn in the fourth quarter of 2015, says the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
Analysts said this was more evidence of the weight of global economic weakness on the UK. One described the figures as "truly horrible"
Scary indeed.!

 今日消息
英国第一季度的贸易赤字自2008年来达到顶峰
根据国家数据局报道,进出口之间的贸易差,从2015年第四季度的122亿上涨到了2016年第一季度133亿
分析家指出有越来越多的证据表明全球经济局势给英国带来极大的负面影响,其中一位形容为“真的很恐怖”
真是可怕
 
coplani  coplani 11h ago
We'd better stay as part of the bigger Dinosaur...Europe...!!!

我们最好还是成为更大恐龙(欧洲)的一部分吧!

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Lamtongdo  coplani 10h ago
Leave and exports will surge overnight. Prices will fall. Your hair will grow back.
 
退出欧盟,我们的出口就会在一夜之间暴增,物价会下跌,你的头发会长回来
 
ianita1978 12h ago
Why is it all so f..king ugly and then uglier ?
Shame on us as a species destroying natural beauty everywhere we find it.

 为什么越来越TM丑了
对于人类这个不断破坏自己发现的自然美景的物种,我真是感到羞耻
 
JonDess 12h ago
Utterly grim images, a good reason to never visit Hong Kong or China.

 这图片真是恶心呢,我有了一个不去中国或者香港的绝佳理由(好像中国人民想你来一样)
 
Lamtongdo  JonDess 10h ago
Utter nonsense. You haven't been there. It shows.

 这什么都说明不了,只能说明你没去过那个地方。
 
bpj_84  JonDess 10h ago
Or London or New York or anywhere in the developed world. Maybe you could go and live 1000 years in the past?

像是伦敦或者是纽约或是发达地区的其他城市。也许你能在过去活上一千年