日本政府计划恢复基地搬迁工作 [日本媒体]

 Gov't to resume base relocation work as talks with Okinawa fall apart

与冲绳的谈判崩溃，日本政府计划恢复基地搬迁工作

【日期】2015年9月8日

【链接】http://www.japantoday.com/catego ... -okinawa-fall-apart

TOKYO — The Japanese government and Okinawa Prefecture failed to reach a compromise Monday  over the planned relocation of a U.S. military base within the southern island prefecture, as their month long “intensive consultation” to defuse tensions over the issue fell apart.

东京 —— 日本政府与冲绳县未能在星期一对搬迁美军基地一事达成协议，这表示他们为了舒缓民愤而进行的长达一个月的“紧急谈判”最终失败。

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga conveyed to Okinawa Gov Takeshi Onaga that the government plans to resume base relocation work, which was suspended for a month through Wednesday while the consultations were going on.

内阁官房长官菅义伟向冲绳知事翁长雄志转达了政府希望恢复基地搬迁工程的计划，此前这个工程已经因为谈判而拖延了一个月。

At issue is the relocation of the U.S. Marine Corps Air Station Futenma from a densely populated area in Ginowan to the less populated Henoko district of Nago, both in Okinawa. The base transfer is a key part of a broader bilateral agreement to realign the U.S. military presence in Japan.

这个工程计划将美军普天间军事基地从人口密集的宜野湾市搬迁至人口更少的名护市，这两个市都位于冲绳岛内。搬迁计划是美日边界双边协议关于驻日美军整编的重要部分之一。

“There was a big gap on how to remove the dangers (posed by the base). We could not gain the understanding of the prefecture,” Suga told reporters after the final round of consultations in Tokyo with Onaga, who has demanded that the base be moved outside of Okinawa.

“我们对于如何排除美军基地对居民带来的危害有分歧。我们得不到冲绳县的理解。”菅义伟在最后一轮与翁长雄志的谈判失败后对记者说道。翁长雄志一直要求把美军基地搬离冲绳县。

The local government and many residents in Okinawa have been opposed to the planned base relocation as they are seeking to reduce the burden on their prefecture in long hosting the bulk of U.S. forces in Japan.

冲绳当地的政府和很多民众都反对这次的搬迁计划，他们想借着这个机会减轻冲绳县被美军驻扎所带来的负担。

Onaga has begun considering holding a plebiscite to ask residents in Okinawa whether they are in favor or against the base relocation, sources close to the governor said. As there is a need to create an ordinance and make necessary preparations, a referendum could take place next year or later.

翁长雄志正在考虑举行一次公投，好让民众决定反对或支持这次的基地搬迁计划，政府相关人士声称。而因为可能需要为公投制定法律和做必要准备，举办日期可能安排在明年或是更晚。

Political observers say the move to resort to the poll is a strategy to show that a majority of the people in Okinawa are opposed to the planned relocation and thus put further pressure on the central government.

日本的政治观察员认为举行公投是一种策略，好显示大多数的冲绳民众都反对搬迁计划，以给中央政府施加 
更大的压力。

Monday’s meeting was joined by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida and Defense Minister Gen Nakatani.

日本首相安倍晋三，外务大臣岸田文雄和国防大臣中谷元都参加了星期一的会面。

Abe was quoted by Suga, Japan’s top government spokesman, as saying during the meeting at the prime minister’s office that there is a need to eliminate the risks posed by the Futenma base “without further delay.”

日本的首席发言人菅义伟引用了安倍的发言，说普天间基地对民众造成的危害必须立即予以排除。

Suga said relocation work will resume after the Okinawa prefectural government wraps up an undersea survey on the condition of coral reefs in waters off the planned base construction site. The survey is expected to possibly end on Saturday.

菅义伟说在冲绳县政府完成对搬迁地点海底珊瑚礁的调查报告后，搬迁工程将恢复进行。这次调查预期将在星期六完成。

Onaga told a group of journalists after the meeting that the Okinawa government “will stop the relocation by all means,” hinting at rescinding his predecessor’s approval for landfill work to build a coastal replacement facility for the U.S. base.

翁长雄志告诉记者们，在会面后冲绳政府会“尽一切努力阻止搬迁计划”,并废除他前任批准的在海岸为美军建立替代基地的计划。

Still, the two sides agreed to keep talking.

日本政府和冲绳县依然同意继续沟通。

Suga said he and Okinawa Vice Gov. Mitsuo Ageta will meet on Wednesday to discuss the framework under which the government and Okinawa will hold dialogue.

菅义伟说他和冲绳县副知事会在星期三会面，继续讨论此问题。



Yubaru 
Did anyone actually expect any different outcome?

真有人认为会有不同结果吗？

“Onaga has begun considering holding a plebiscite to ask residents in Okinawa whether they are in favor or against the base relocation, sources close to the governor said. As there is a need to create an ordinance and make necessary preparations, a referendum could take place next year or later.”

“翁长雄志正在考虑举行一次公投，好让民众决定反对或支持这次的基地搬迁计划，政府相关人士声称。而因为可能需要为公投制定法律和做必要准备，举办日期可能安排在明年或是更晚。”

As to this...bullsnit, if the national government can pull off a snap election for the Diet in one month Onaga could put out a referendum in the same amount of time.

关于这玩意，政府都能在在一个月内搞个仓促的国会大选，翁长雄志肯定也能在一个月内搞个公投。

Plus if it is going to take until next year or later, it WILL be too late and won't matter, as the construction will be well along the way to being completed, on the landfill anyway, and the referendum results would be meaningless.

而且如果这个公投真的要等到明年，这就太晚了，搬迁工程都要结束了，结果也无关紧要了。

Abe is going to get this done, one way or the other.

安倍肯定会想尽办法完成这个工程的。

noriyosan73
The USA is moving 5,000 Marines to Guam. What a great idea. Send more military there from Okinawa asap.

美国将会转移5000士兵去关岛。这太好了。快点把更多士兵从冲绳送到关岛吧。

darnname
Japan is moving 5,000 Marines. Japan is paying almost $1,000,000 per person for this move.
Move the damn base from Okinawa to Ebisu and see how that goes over with Sugu.

是日本去转移5000美国士兵。而且还要为每个转移的士兵支付10000000（日元）。
把这该死的基地弄去惠比寿然后看看菅义伟同不同意？

Noble713
Color me unsurprised. The central government is definitely going to get its way on this issue.

毫不奇怪。中央政府一定会确保搬迁计划实施的。

Aly Rustom
If the government strong-arms this, it could lead to calls for independence. This could spiral out of control.

如果政府强行实施搬迁，可能会造成冲绳独立，那就麻烦了。

japan4life

I tend to agree with @yubaru that holding a referendum next year will be too late and the results would just be symbolic and the Central Govt. would not recognize it anyway. Rescinding the Landfill Agreement signed by Nakaima is really the only option Onaga has left. The Central Govt. has made it very clear that this facility will be built at Henoko regardless of what the people of Okinawa want so Onaga should rescind the landfill agreement and force Abe to make special legistation to override the Governor. At least this way all of Japan and the rest of the world will know that the facility is being forced upon the people of Okinawa and it will then be up to the people who oppose this facility to decide if they want to try to block construction by whatever means are available to them.

我同意@yubaru的说法，明年再举行公投就太迟了，而且毫无意义。废除前任知事的搬迁同意书是翁长雄志唯一的选择了。中央政府已经说的很清楚了，冲绳的搬迁计划不管冲绳人怎么想都一定会实施。所以翁长雄志必须废除前任的同意书，并迫使安倍收回政府的命令。这样就能令所有人明白政府正强迫民众接受军事基地，而不是让人民选择接受与否了。

gaijintraveller
We could not gain the understanding of the prefecture.

“我们得不到冲绳县的理解。”

Not gaining the understanding of the prefecture and continuing with the project anyway is fraught with trouble. Think what happened with Narita Airport. It was opened many years late because of local opposition, but problems continued. Now Haneda is becoming Tokyo's major airport.

得不到理解还要继续施工就是错上加错。想想看成田机场吧。它因本地人反对而被迫延迟开放，但问题依旧。所以羽田国际机场成了东京的主要机场。

warispeace
The USA is moving 5,000 Marines to Guam. What a great idea. Send more military there from Okinawa asap.

“美国将会转移5000士兵去关岛。这太好了。快点把更多士兵从冲绳送到关岛吧。”

This is not a great idea for the natives of Guam. It seems the best solution would be to send the troops home.

对关岛人来说可不是什么好主意。看来最好的办法还是把这些士兵直接送回家。

What if Okinawans protest even more strongly than Chiba farmers did? I can see that happening.

如果冲绳人反对得比千叶农民还激烈怎么办？我已经看到结局了。

minello7
" We could not gain the understanding of the prefecture,” what is it that you don't understand minister Suga. The Okinawa people have responded so many times over the bases issue, they want the Japanese government to relocate some of the burdens that the Okinawan people face. No other prefecture in Japan wants the bases, so why listen to the other prefectures and not Okinawa, or is it ,that the central government does not recognise Okinawa as one of the prefectures of Japan, and so does not have a voice. Maybe you have forgotten your History of the Ryukyu Islands, a once proud Kingdom, until annex by the Shimazu clan in 1609 and claimed as a province of Japan. Minister Suga if your not familiar with Okinawan history, look it up  on wikipedia."Respect" is such a small word but demands a lot, something all politicians worldwide seem to ignore.

“我们得不到冲绳县的理解。”所以菅义伟先生你到底还有什么不明白的？冲绳人对于基地搬迁问题都提出这么多次抗议了，他们希望日本政府能把基地搬到别的地方去，减轻冲绳人的负担。其他日本县都不想要这个基地，那为什么只听他们的而不听听冲绳人的意见呢？还是说中央政府到底还是不把冲绳人当成日本人吗 ？所以冲绳人无权发声？也许有人忘了琉球群岛的历史，那曾经是个骄傲的王朝，之后才被日本收入囊中。菅义伟先生你应该学学历史。“尊重”是个那么简单的词，但它的含义却总是被全世界的政治家们忽视。

zones2surf
The Central Govt. has made it very clear that this facility will be built at Henoko regardless of what the people of Okinawa want so Onaga should rescind the landfill agreement and force Abe to make special legistation to override the Governor. At least this way all of Japan and the rest of the world will know that the facility is being forced upon the people of Okinawa and it will then be up to the people who oppose this facility to decide if they want to try to block construction by whatever means are available to them.

“中央政府已经说的很清楚了，冲绳的搬迁计划不管冲绳人怎么想都一定会实施。所以翁长雄志必须废除前任的同意书，并迫使安倍收回政府的命令。这样就能令所有人明白政府正强迫民众接受军事基地，而不是让人民选择接受与否了。”

Completely agree with @japan4life on this. If the Okinawa government is serious about this, then they need to assume the central government is determined to proceed and they should takeall actions they can immediately to put a stop to it. Once the work is in motion, it will become much harder to bring to a stop.

完全同意@japan4life的说法。如果冲绳政府是认真的，而且确定中央政府一定会继续搬迁计划的话，那么他们就要采取一切的措施去阻止这个工程动工。如果这个工程动工了，要阻止它就会变得很困难。

Also, the point about the the people opposing this facility having to decide if they want to block construction by whatever means are available to them is absolutely spot on.

另外，反对建设的人要认真考虑如何将工程队阻挡在选址外。

Look, peaceful demonstrations that last a few hours will not stop this if the central government is determined to see it through. The opponents really have to decide how serious they are about stopping this. Are they willing to put their lives on the line for this or is this something they oppose but won't pay a personal price to do so??

持续几个小时的和平示威已经证明并不能阻止搬迁计划。反对者们要认真考虑他们对这件事的重视程度。他们愿意付多大的代价去阻止工程。他们愿意为此牺牲吗？还是说并不愿意牺牲个人利益？

There is only one thing that will change the equation and that is mass civil disobedience that interferes with the operation of the bases in Okinawa and does so in a way that becomes highly visible and prolonged and would bring the foreign media into the equation. Because once that happens, the central government loses control. And if there are images of the gates of bases being put under siege and traffic not being allowed in/out and Japanese riot police clearing out protestors to restore order, that is the one thing that could resonate in Washington D.C. and put pressure on the U.S. government to get involved.

只有一件事能改变这个状况，那就是用大面积的公民抗命去阻止工程，然后吸引外国媒体的注意力。如果这事成了，中央政府就再也不能压制我们了。如果政府用了暴力驱逐示威者，那说不定就能影响到美国而对美国政府施加压力，迫使他们介入。

But the actions that will create this scenario will involve personal cost to opponents. Arrest, jail, loss of jobs, etc. The question is: is it that important to them?!

但这种结果的代价一定会造成个人损失。逮捕，监禁，被炒鱿鱼等等。问题在于：这件事对他们到底有多重要？

yamashi 
The best solution is to organize a Referendum for Independence. All problems with foreign occupants will be effectively solved. Okinawa people deserve better life than being guests on their own land.

最好的解决办法就是直接对是否独立进行公投。然后所有外国驻军问题都不是问题了。冲绳人已经厌倦了不能自主的生活！

Christopher Glen
We are actually in agreement

我同意！