东京——日本计划建造世界上已知最快的超级计算机,从而在研发上助力该国的制造商,以发展和提升无人驾驶汽车,机器人以及医学诊断。日本网友:日本的K计算机由富士通的CPU驱动,但是美国的禁令无法阻止中国建立世界上最快的超算。美国不再是唯一可以生产处理器芯片的国家了。
Japan plans supercomputer to leap into technology future
日本计划建造超级计算机引领技术未来
TOKYO —Japan plans to build the world’s fastest-known supercomputer in a bid to arm the country’s manufacturers with a platform for research that could help them develop and improve driverless cars, robotics and medical diagnostics.
东京——日本计划建造世界上已知最快的超级计算机,从而在研发上助力该国的制造商,以发展和提升无人驾驶汽车,机器人以及医学诊断。
The Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry will spend 19.5 billion yen on the previously unreported project, a budget breakdown shows, as part of a government policy to get back Japan’s mojo in the world of technology. The country has lost its edge in many electronic fields amid intensifying competition from South Korea and China, home to the world’s current best-performing machine.
日本经济贸易产业省将花费195亿日元在超级计算机项目上,从而让日本重新回到世界技术舞台。日本在电子领域已经失去了很多优势,面临着来自韩国和中国的巨大竞争,而中国拥有目前世界上最快的超级计算机。
In a move that is expected to vault Japan to the top of the supercomputing heap, its engineers will be tasked with building a machine that can make 130 quadrillion calculations per second - or 130 petaflops in scientific parlance - as early as next year, sources involved in the project told Reuters.
为了让日本登上超级计算机的宝座,日本工程师被赋予的任务是最早要在明年研发出运算速度可达130千万亿次每秒的超算,消息人士对路透社说。
At that speed, Japan’s computer would be ahead of China’s Sunway Taihulight that is capable of 93 petaflops.
在这样的速度下,日本的计算机将超过中国目前速度达到93千万亿次每秒的神威太湖之光。
Dan LewisNOV. 28, 2016 - 08:47AM JST
Cool! Once they finish the new super computer, they'll be able to calculate how much money is being wasted on the 2020 olympics and Fukushima even faster!
酷!一旦他们建成这个新的超级计算机,他们就能够以更快的速度计算出他们在2020年东京奥运会以及福岛事件上浪费了多少钱了!
gogogoNOV. 28, 2016 - 09:38AM JST
Seriously? What they going to do on it? Play minecraft? Can think of many people without homes from 2011 that this money would be better spent.
真的吗?他们打算用这个计算机来干嘛?玩《我的世界》?2011年海啸后还有好多人无家可归呢,这些钱花在他们身上不是更好吗?
Citizen2012NOV. 28, 2016 - 10:48AM JST
The supercomputer will be made available for a fee to Japan’s corporations, who now outsource data crunching to foreign firms such as Google and Microsoft, Sekiguchi and others involved in the project said.
For 10x the price because it is a government project and not a commercial one ! Why not just tell the truth, this is just disguised welfare money (19.5 billion yen) to a very limited small circle of Japanese companies which will now start the money seduction parade to the METI to get the deal.
“这个超级计算机将以收费的形式向日本企业提供服务,日本企业现在的数据业务都外包给了外国企业,比如谷歌和微软,该项目的参与人士如是说。”
以十倍的价格提供给企业,因为这是政府项目而不是商业项目!为什么不直接说出真相呢,这是政府给一小部分公司送钱呢,现在这些企业为了获得这个项目,将对经济产业省发起攻势。
wtfjapanNOV. 28, 2016 - 12:15PM JST
only problem is the US is building a 300 petaflops supercomputer due to be finished in 2018, and is aiming for the first 1000petaflop computer by 2025.. Also Obama has banned Intel from exporting the latest processors, so whether Japan can get hold of them or not is the question. Intel processors power most of the worlds supercomputers. So if Japan does manage to take the top spot its unlikely they'll hold it for long.
问题在于美国正在建造300千万亿次每秒的超算,预计2018年完成,并且计划在2025年完成首个1000千万亿次每秒的超算。奥巴马还禁止因特尔公司出口最新的处理器,所以日本能否获得这些处理器还是个问题。因特尔公司的处理器被世界上大部分的超级计算机所采用。所以即使日本人赢得宝座,也不会长久。
sf2kNOV. 28, 2016 - 12:47PM JST
None of this is a future worth having since it means replacing all humans with more "useful" things. Because we've redefined that the economy is no longer to serve purpose for human beings but for faceless corporations. Serve the corporation until you are replaced
Fire all the programmers. Fire all the drivers. Fire all the assembly line workers, Fire all the lawyers. Fire all the craftspeople. Fire all the musicians.....
It's stupid. We'll have to remake our own economy again, for humans only
这一切都不值得未来拥有,因为那意味着用更“有用的”东西来替代人类。
因为我们重新定义了经济,不在服务于人类,只服务无个性的企业。服务于企业直到你被替代。
解雇所有的程序员,司机,装配工,律师,工匠和音乐家。。。。
这是愚蠢的做法。我们得重造我们的经济,而且只为人类服务。
TriringNOV. 28, 2016 - 01:27PM JST
wtfjapan
FYI Japan's K computer is powered by domestic CPU developed by Fujitsu based on the SPARC architecture and does not use Intel.
日本的K计算机由国产的CPU驱动,是日本富士通公司根据“可扩充处理器架构”研发出来的,并没有使用因特尔的处理器。
wtfjapanNOV. 28, 2016 - 01:48PM JST
FYI Japan's K computer is powered by domestic CPU developed by Fujitsu based on the SPARC architecture and does not use Intel. well maybe they should , the K computer held te top spot for like 6months , China is clearly leading the way in this field, but the US is expected to spend a considerable amount in the coming years to retake the top spot.
不过日本或许应该使用因特尔的处理器。K超算只在宝座上待了6个月,中国在该领域显然处于领先地位,但是美国在未来几年将投入巨额资金以重新夺回宝座。
Louis AmselNOV. 28, 2016 - 05:43PM JST
the japanese "k computer" is powered by cpus from fujitsu, the ban also didn't stop the chinese having built the fastest super computer. america is no longer the only country that can produce processor chips.
日本的K计算机由富士通的CPU驱动,但是美国的禁令无法阻止中国建立世界上最快的超算。美国不再是唯一可以生产处理器芯片的国家了。
Rana SodhiNOV. 28, 2016 - 07:11PM JST
Will this super computer fix the economy? Sarcasm
这个超级计算机可以解决经济问题吗?真是讽刺。
wtfjapanNOV. 28, 2016 - 10:31PM JST
america is no longer the only country that can produce processor chips. but the latest fasters processors are build by Intel, AMD. Intel has spent $10s billions in R&D , technology that is very difficult to copy. Yes China can still produce the fastest computer, but with many many more processors and much higher power usage. The cost of a super computer isnt just its manufacturer its also the huge amounts of electricity they use. More efficient processors means more speed for less power.
但是最新的更快的处理器依然是因特尔和AMD造的。因特尔花了100多亿美元在研发上,这种技术是很难山寨的。虽然中国能生产世界上最快的超算,这是因为中国使用了更多的处理器,而且用电量更高。超算的成本不仅在于制造也在于其使用的巨大电量。只有更高效的处理器,速度才更快,能耗也更少。
TriringNOV. 28, 2016 - 10:32PM JST
The Chinese CPU utilizes the ARM design. That is why they have so many CPU cores within their super computer. It also cannot beat K-super computer in Graph 500 measuring the speed calculating big data through parallel computing.
中国的CPU使用的是ARM设计。所以他们的超算内拥有更多CPU内核。在通过平行计算进行大数据计算时(Graph 500),中国的超算也无法打败日本的K超算。
SaikoPhyscoNOV. 29, 2016 - 03:40AM JST
What good is a Super Computer in Japan if they can't figure out how to write a program to utilize it's power. And... building a Super Computer is a question of Money.... all they do is increase the number of processors.
如果日本人不知道如何写程序来利用超算的力量,那建造一个超级计算机又有何用。。。建造超算其实只是资金的问题,因为只要不断增加处理器就可以了。
MikeHNOV. 30, 2016 - 08:02AM JST
Get a supercomputer to take care of the Fukushima crisis!
搞一个超算来处理福岛危机吧!
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