中国将设定日期关闭象牙工厂 [英国媒体]

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Chinais set to announce when it will close its legal ivory carving factories 18 months after pledging to act.

中国在承诺采取行动18个月后宣布将关闭其合法的象牙雕刻厂。

Last year the world’s largest market for both legal and illegal ivorysaid it would shut down commercial saleswithin the country. But did not set a timeline.

去年世界上最大的合法和非法象牙市场表示，它将关闭国内的象牙商业销售。但没有设定时间期限。

At the time conservationists described the announcement as the“single greatest measure”in the fight to save elephants from poaching. Wildlife advocates have sinceurged Beijing to get on with the job.

当时环保人士把这个公告描述为在保护大象免受偷猎的斗争中的“最大的措施”。野生动物保护者自此敦促北京继续这项工作。

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“The preparation for the domestic ivory trade ban is under way in China” Zhou Fei head of the China programme at wildlife trade watchdog Traffic told the Guardian. “According to our information most of the legal ivory vendors are developing alternative business. The ivory price of both legal and illegal ivory products dropped.”

“象牙贸易禁令已经在中国国内开始进行。”周飞，中国野生动物贸易监管机构项目负责人告诉卫报。 “根据我们得到的信息，大多数合法的象牙供应商正在开发替代业务。合法和非法象牙产品的价格在下跌。

Legal ivory carvers in China use tusks imported during one-off sanctioned sales from Africa. Advocates for the total ban believe it will discourage local demand for black market ivory and shut off smugglers’ attempts to launder poached tusks into legal markets.

中国的合法象牙雕刻师使用从非洲一次性批准销售进口的象牙。全面禁令的支持者认为，这一措施将减缓当地对黑市象牙的需求，并阻止走私者企图将偷猎的象牙流入合法市场。


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WobbleBottome 5d ago
Well done China. About time too.

干得好，中国！也是时候了。

tknees  WobbleBottome 5d ago
They have done nothing yet. Do npt pat them on the back.

他们还什么都没做。别表扬他们。

HorseCart 5d ago
That's a very upsetting photograph... especially if you picture the elephant that was left dying after the tusks were hacked off never mind the rangers who were murdered.

这是一个非常令人不安的照片.....特别是当你想到一个象牙被砍掉后留下的死象画面的时候，更别提被谋杀的巡逻员了。

“China often resists legislation for as long as possible then acts when the diplomatic costs become too high. But that is not the same as effective enforcement. China is a very big country Beijing’s reach is less effective than many outsiders imagine and enforcement may not be a priority” said Hilton.

”中国尽可能长时间地拒绝立法，当外交成本太高时才行动。但是这与有效地执法不一样，中国是个很大的国家，北京的能做到的执法没外面的人想象的有效，执法可能不会是优先选择。“Hilton说。

About the most perceptive and intelligent thing I've seen for ages. Most people don't even ask themselves "What is the social difference between Japan and China?". How can anybody know anything if they don't ask questions?

这些年我见过的最有洞察力和智慧的事。大多数人甚至没问过自己“日本和中国的社会差异是什么？”如果都没问过问题，谁能知道是怎么回事？

Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall should really cook a dinner for the likes of Jack Ma and Li Ka-Shing if he wants to get a bit further with the ivory problem.

 如果想让象牙问题更推进一小步的话，Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall真应该为Jack Ma和LiKa-Shing做顿晚饭。

How about if someone organizes special charity fund-raising dinners in Shanghai and Guangzhou for elephants in Shanghai and Guangzhou with Hugh F-W collaborating in the chef-planning where he gets to meet them all?

要是某人能与Hugh F-W在厨师计划中合作，在上海和广州为大象组织特别的慈善筹款晚宴会怎么样？他到那儿会见到他们所有人。

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andoru 5d ago
We'll see. Banning things is often little more than a way of creating a new revenue stream for Party chiefs. If it's legal they've no reason to take a bribe to look the other way.

我们且看着。禁止事物往往只是为党领导创造新的收入来源的一种方式。如果是合法的，他们没有理由睁一只眼闭一只眼地收取贿赂。

Dan Kallem andoru 5d ago
Such a good well thought out idea one that would certainly smooth the path for these reprobate human beings to continue in their task of eliminating these wonderful sentient creatures from earth.

这样一个深思熟虑的好想法，这只会让这些恶心的人类继续杀害这种美丽有意识的地球生物。

alfredwong andoru 5d ago
Irrespective of whatever steps China takes you would still blame China. The article says that Europe is the biggest legal exporter of ivory in the world. Now do you blame the drug traffickers or the drug addicts?

不管中国采取什么措施，你们仍然会责怪中国。文章说，欧洲是世界上最大的象牙合法出口国。现在你们是责怪毒贩还是吸毒者？

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Harry226 alfredwong 5d ago
English translation please.

麻烦翻译成英文谢谢。

MrReasonable 5d ago
The pledge to ban the domestic ivory trade was an excellent initial step taken by China and it is encouraging that it is now actually close to announcing when it will take effect. These moves should be applauded while at the same time remaining vigilant for signs of effective action given the skepticism outlined.
But it is very hard to see how westerners can continue to point fingers at China while there is any trade lingering in the UK and Europe. The pretext of 'old ivory' is simply a fig leaf for maintaining the value of ivory in public perceptions and as Hugh F-W's documentary showed for laundering new ivory under the guise of antiques.
The principle must be established and adhered to: ivory has no value except on elephants.

禁止国内象牙贸易的承诺是中国采取的一个良好的开始步骤，令人鼓舞的是，现在实际上很接近宣布它将生效的时间。应该赞扬这些行动，同时由于所概述存在怀疑，要对有效行动的迹象保持警惕。
英国和欧盟自己都还有象牙交易，所以西方真的没有理由只是指责中国。“古象牙”这个借口不过是个遮羞布，是为了让公众认为象牙依然是有价值的，而且正如Hugh F-W的纪录片所表明的这不过是以古董为幌子继续猎取新象牙罢了。
这一原则必须建立和坚持：象牙除了在大象身上之外没有价值。

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Beekeeper49 5d ago
It is repulsive to know that every ivory tusk has resulted in the death of a magnificent animal.

一个令人憎恶的事实，每一根象牙都会导致一头高贵的动物的死亡。

Wei JI Beekeeper49 4d ago
do not necessary to think so as there are a lot of ivory coming from natural death. in fact ivory is something that occurring naturally.

没有必要这么想，因为有很多象牙来自自然死亡的大象。事实上象牙是自然发生的产物。

ID6597784 Wei JI 3d ago
Very little ivory comes from natural death

很少有象牙来自自然死亡的大象。

canbeanybody 5d ago
"Last year the world’s largest market for both legal and illegal ivory said it would shut down commercial sales within the country"
Is it good?
As it is then why not follow the Chinese example to shut down all commercial sales in your own American sphere regime land?

“去年全球最大的合法和非法象牙市场表示，它将关闭国内的象牙商业销售”
这样好吗？
好的话那为什么不遵循中国的例子，关闭所有在你自己美国范围内土地上的商业销售？

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Edith D Thurman 5d ago
Maybe we should take a closer look at the U.K.! Since they're the ones blocking protection on the highest level for these animals. China may get more serious if the UK actually stopped wanting to kill the elephants! To see a supposed advanced society like the UK fighting and voting to NOT protect elephants in a day where they are getting closer to extinction by the day is seriously disgusting! How about pointing all your finger at them? Then maybe China who buys their ivory from the UK wouldn't have anything left to buy!

也许我们应该仔细关注一下英国！英国阻止对这些动物进行最高级别的保护。如果英国停止杀戮这些大象，中国或许才会更加认真的对待这件事情！英国这样一个先进的社会在大象面临灭绝之灾时却阻止人们保护它们，这种行为真是让人恶心！所以为什么不对英国施加压力呢？这样从英国进口象牙的中国或许就没东西可买了！

Daedeveson Edith D Thurman 4d ago
What world do you live in? I want to see sources to say that China buys ivory from the UK.
Do you know how wealthy China is?
Every man woman and child on their half day of work could make a rifle leave their factory cities and fly to africa and then return back with several tusks.
I would believe alot of things but one thing I don't believe is that we sell something to China that isn't the royal family or tea bags.

你活在在哪个世界？我想看到中国从英国购买象牙的消息来源。
你知道中国有多富有吗？
每个男人女人和孩子在他们工作的半天里已经可以使步枪离开他们的工厂城市和飞往非洲，然后带着几个象牙回来。
我相信很多事情，但我不相信的是我们卖不是皇室或茶包的东西到中国。

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Wei JI Daedeveson 4d ago
You may wish to see the BBC documentary by Hugh.

你可以看看Hugh拍摄的BBC纪录片。

ID6597784 4d ago
China seems to be the scourge of all the world's wildlife.
Pangolins tigers (and now lions too) saiga 5 species of rhino bears 3 species of elephant vaquita and many many more.
If you want to do something about it (because ours and the US governments won't) then the only power you have is just don't buy Chinese.

中国似乎是所有世界野生动物的灾难。
穿山甲，老虎（现在狮子也是），赛加羚羊，5种犀牛，3种大象，熊，小头鼠海豚，还有许多许多。
如果你想为此做一些事情（因为我们的相关机构和美国政府不会），那么你唯一的力量就是不买中国产品。

TheEqlaowaizer 4d ago
Setting a date that those with deep pockets can easily pay their way past.

设置一个日期，这样那些财力雄厚的人就可以用钱收买了。