脱欧后百万熟练工人计划离开英国 [英国媒体]

A million skilled workers plan to leave the UK after Brexit

脱欧后百万熟练工人计划离开英国



A staggering 55 per cent of those with PhDs and 49 per cent of those with postgraduate degrees have either decided to leave or are considering it

令人惊讶的有55%的博士和49%的硕士要么已经决定离开，要么在考虑离开

Shehab Khan  Sunday 27 August 2017 19:04 BST

A total of 84 per cent of skilled EU healthcare workers said they will go Getty

合计84%的熟练欧盟医疗人员说他们会走

Almost one million EU citizens working in the UK, many of whom are highly qualified, are planning to either leave the country or have already decided to do so following Brexit, a new study has found. 

一项新研究发现，将近有一百万在英国工作的欧盟公民——其中很多人拥有高资质——要么计划离开该国，要么已决定在脱欧后离开。

The international survey, which sampled 2,000 EU citizens working in the UK and 1,000 EU citizens from the ten countries most likely to supply EU labour, also found that 50 per cent of people felt less welcome since the referendum. 

该国际调查采访了2000名在英国工作的欧盟公民以及1000名来自10个最有可能提供欧盟劳动力的欧盟国家的公民，它还发现，自从公投后，50%的人感到没那么受欢迎了。

The research also discovered that 55 per cent of those with PhDs and 49 per cent of those with postgraduate degrees had either decided to leave or were considering it. 

该调查也发现，其中有55%的博士和49%的硕士不是已经决定离开，就是正在考虑离开。

Karen Briggs, Head of Brexit at KPMG, who conducted the research, said: “Our survey highlights how important the actions of employers are going to be if the UK is to avoid a Brexit brain-drain.  Although almost half of the EU citizens working in the UK plan to stay, what other EU citizens choose to do is definitely hanging in the balance. 

毕马威的脱欧项目主管，领导该调查的Karen Briggs说：“我们的调查突出了如果英国要避免脱欧后的人才流失，雇主的行动将会有多重要。虽然近半在英工作的欧盟公民计划留下，但是其它欧盟公民作何选择肯定是悬而未决的。”

“Against this backdrop we expect to see increased competition for talent between employers over the coming years, and numerous firms seeking to supplement their workforce with AI, robotics and automation.”

“在此背景下，我们预期未来几年会看到雇主之间对人才竞争的加剧，还会有很多公司寻求用人工智能，机器人和自动化补充他们的劳动力。”

Punam Birly, Head of Employment & Immigration at KPMG, said the survey indicated too few employers were doing enough to support their EU employees, which was making the UK vulnerable.   

毕马威就业与移民主管Punam Birly说，调查显示给予他们的欧盟雇工足够支持的雇主太少了，这让英国变得脆弱。

Ms Birly said: “Compounding this issue we're seeing a reduction in applications from EU citizens to UK universities.  This could create a high-end talent pipeline problem – and a shortage of chemists, linguists, and other budding professionals. 

Birly女士说：“使问题加重的是，我们注意到欧盟公民向英国大学的申请在减少。这会导致高端人才的管道问题——化学专家、语言专家以及其它初露头角的专业人才的缺乏。”

“At the very top end of the graduate market, those who are most sought after, and thus most highly rewarded, will be the biggest issue for employers.”

“在尖端大学生市场，那些最受青睐因此薪酬也最高的人才，将会是雇主最大的关切。”


32 minutes ago
Flamingo
I wonder why immigration is so high then? Non-EU immigrants have to prove they can support themselves, and we get plenty of them. Maybe it's just the EU immigrants that rely on taxpayer top-ups that are not so keen to come now?

我好奇为什么移民那么多？非欧盟移民必须证明他们可以养活自己，我们有很多这种移民。或许只是那些依赖纳税人补给的欧盟移民现在不那么想来了？

10 minutes ago
Jonathan Mills
Where do you get your information from?  I suggest you find another source.  EU migrants are not entitled to any state support.  They must show they are self sufficient.  They must find employment within 90 days, or continue to show they are self sufficient.  If employment is obtained, they pay the same contributions as everyone else in Tax and NI.  However they remain blocked from State support (benefits) for 180 days, and the Health Service for 90 days.  If they have an employment based contribution gap of more than 90 days, then their status is 'reset' to the beginning.   This is far more strict than for non-EU migrants.  

你从哪看到这些信息的？我建议你再查查资料。欧盟移民没有被给予任何国家援助。他们必须证明他们可以自给自足。他们必须在90天内打到工作，否则继续证明他们可以自给自足。如果找到工作，他们跟其他人一样缴税和买国民保险。然而他们仍被排除了180天的国家援助(福利)和90天的医疗服务。如果他们在有工作的情况下有超过90天的缴纳空白，那么他们的资格会“重置”回原点。这远比非欧盟移民严格。

10 minutes ago
SoundofReason
I always thought Flamingos hadn't much brainpower, now it's confirmed. EU immigrants are NETTO payers,not receivers in the welfare kitty unlike immigrants from outside the EU (showing government "proving" methods not very efficient). Immigration is so high because May insists on including students who we now know leave (97%) the UK after their education.

我一直以为红鹤没那么多脑力，现在确定了。欧盟移民是纯支付人，不是福利待遇的接受人，他们跟来自欧盟以外的移民不同（这表明政府“证明的”方法并不是很有效）。移民那么多是因为梅坚持把我们现在知道的毕业后就离开（97%）的学生算进来。

47 minutes ago
The_Vindìcator
As a major interlectual figure of the contempry Britsih Left I fully support the fourth reich.I was born on the roughest concil estate ever in da histry of da world and my mum worked 12 hour shifts in da local chip shop just to put coca cola on da table!I failed my 11+ becuz of da torees init, but I went on to some real acamedic achievements.

作为一个英国左派同时代的成年知识分子，我完全支持第四帝国。我出生在世界历史上最简陋的政府房子里，我妈每天工作12小时，在本地薯条店负责把可口可乐端上桌。早先因为保守党我11+考试考砸了，但我继续努力获得了一些真正的学术成就。

I have:
* Four University degrees
* Seventeen A ls
* The Nobel prize for p0rnography
* GCSE in woodwork

我有：
4个大学学位
17门A
诺贝尔情色奖
GCSE木工证

So listen 2 me when I tell you that we gotta stay in da EU.Stuff the British working class, they are too stupid to be allowed to vote.Vote Labour and overturn the referendum by the back door.

所以听我的，我们得留在欧盟。补足英国工人阶级，他们太蠢了以致不被允许投票。投给工党，然后走后门推翻公投结果。

41 minutes ago
Helen
Vote labour and you can have segregation for women on trains instead of dealing with the problem of sexual harassment  and hammer the hard working tax payer when they bump up the taxes.

投给工党，火车上就会有妇女隔离车厢代替，而不是着手解决性骚扰问题；加税的时候打击努力工作的纳税人。

37 minutes ago
Simon Smith
Would they segregate the self declared trans genders as well?

他们也会隔离那些自称的跨性别者吗？

7 minutes ago
SoundofReason
Congratulations. One of the stupidest posts I have seen at the Indy. Confirms my opinion that quitters don't have too much "up top".

恭喜。我在独立网上看过的最蠢的帖子之一。证实了我的观点，轻言放弃的人没有那么多头脑。

4 minutes ago
Jonathan Mills
Reich is German for 'Rule', and relates to a change in a governmental system.  Germany is now in its fifth such change, and the UK in its third.

德语的Reich意为统治，涉及政治体制的改变。德国正处在第五次这样的改变中，英国是第三次。

58 minutes ago
The_Vindicator
Based on my experience in a PhD rich industry, I would say this is an underestimate.The younger PhDs want to go and can go.  They are mobile and want a career that has a future in a country that is supportive.The older ones, with families, think twice (especially if they have UK spouses) but then decide to give their children a future in the EU.Add to that the xenophobia they get on the streets and on public transport and you have all the makings of a HUGE brain drain.

基于我在一个有很多博士的产业的经验，我可以说它低估了。年轻的博士想走，也可以走。他们流动性强，想要一个在该国可获得支持的，有未来的职业。老一点的，有家庭的，审慎考虑（特别是如果他们有英国配偶），但另一方面决定让他们的孩子在欧盟寻找未来。再掺杂入他们从街道和公共交通感受到的排外情绪，你就有了造成人才大量流失的所有因素。

47 minutes ago
The_Vindìcator
Fake account by a well known Nazi from Tyneside.

来自Tyneside的众所周知的纳粹的假账号。

33 minutes ago
Alexander
There it is again, 'fake'. 

又来了，“假的”。

12 minutes ago
epidavros
So you only know PhD holders who are racist and xenophobic then? Fully 94% of all the cleverest people in the world live OUTSIDE the EU. Most of the world is outside the EU. Progressive PhD holders - like me - seek opportunities anywhere in the world. The UK has the second highest number of top research universities of any country in the world - the rest of the EU has none in the top 20. Not a single one.

那么你只认识那些种族主义的和排外的博士？全世界最聪明的人足足有94%住在欧盟以外。大部分世界在欧盟之外。上进的博士，比如我，满世界寻找机会。英国有世界第二多的顶级研究性大学——其余的欧盟国家没有一个名列前20，一个都没有。

1 hour ago
MrTee
Ever listen to the likes of the awful Priti Patel sting we only want the best and brightest. Seems the best and brightest don't want us anymore.

曾经听过和Priti Patel的糟糕讽刺类似的话——我们只想要最好的和最聪明的。现在看来最好的和最聪明的人不再要我们了。

58 minutes ago
The NAPSM
That's because they are the best and brightest, and can see the writing on the wall for the UK.

那是因为他们是最好的和最聪明的，可以看看墙壁上写给英国的话。

57 minutes ago
The_Vindicator
Indeed.  What is to attract them to come and/or stay?
EU brain recruitment is down as well.

确实。有什么可以吸引他们到来及/或留下呢？欧盟的人才招收也降了。

53 minutes ago
The NAPSM
They generate plenty of their own.

他们自己培养了大量的人才。

36 minutes ago
Helen
Does that mean then that British people are not the brightest anymore and we have to import talent ? I don't believe for 1 second that is true, what I don believe is most are working   In retail and restaurants as they can't get a job in the field they had studied in. If papers like this continuously send out propaganda messages that only people from the rest of the EU are employable then guess what companies start to believe it and only hire people with a foreign name. Pity as our 'talented' kids are overlooked.

这意味着英国人不再是最聪明的人，而我们不得不引进人才吗？我一点也不相信这是真的，我相信的是大多数人在零售店和餐饮店工作，因为他们不能在他们研究的领域里找到工作。如果像这样的报告不停地释放出只有欧盟其它国家的人 才适合雇用的宣传信息，猜猜公司会开始相信什么，它们只会雇用有个外国名字的人。很可惜我们的“天才”孩子被忽视了。

1 hour ago
Andy
This has been happening for decades especially amongst medical staff. My daughters did it after becoming docs they eventually return, threatening to leave and actually leaving are two different  things. If it's a hard Brexit will there be jobs for them to go to in the wonderfull eu especially if we take our custom elsewhere 

这已经发生了几十年了，特别是在医疗人员当中。我女儿在成为医生后，最终回来了，威胁离开与实际离开是两件不同的事。如果硬脱欧的话，在美好的欧盟将会有工作等待他们，特别是如果我们把顾客引到别处。

1 hour ago
trisul
Of course there will be jobs in the EU, especially for medical staff, because the EU has decreased the ratio of number of doctors per patient and all EU states are now scrambling for medical staff. 

欧盟当然会有工作，特别是医疗人员，因为欧盟降低了每个病人对应的医生数量的比例，现在所有的欧盟国家都在争抢医疗人员。

1 hour ago
Simon Smith
Were they made to repay the full cost of their training when they left?

他们离开的时候会被要求偿还全部培训开销吗？

1 hour ago
The NAPSM
That works both ways!
Is it okay for the UK to poach trained staff from countries that have trained them and need them for themselves?
Often poorer coutries than the UK that are trying to develop.

反过来说也一样！其它国家培养了他们的员工，而且本国也需要他们，英国占有这些训练有素的员工合适吗？通常是比英国穷的国家在努力发展。

54 minutes ago
Human Dignity
Trained Doctors come to the UK and give the NHS many years of service at low pay and difficult working conditions, so they are at liberty to leave when they choose, they are not slaves to the system.

训练有素的医生来到英国，在低工资和困难的工作条件下为国家医疗服务体系服务了很多年，所以当他们选择离开的时候可以自由离开，他们不是医疗体系的奴隶。