中国公司公开了充满野心的时速2500英里的“飞速列车”计划，但专家担忧人体不能承... [英国媒体]

Ambitious 'flying train' which will travel at 2,500MPH is unveiled by Chinese corportation, but experts fear the human body can't cope with moving that fast

中国公司公开了充满野心的时速2500英里的“飞速列车”计划，但专家担忧人体不能承受这样的高速



Plans have been put forward by The China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation
The company says trains will travel at a massive 2,500mph 
Experts have questioned whether the human body will be able to cope with speed
It is designed to compete with the Hyperloop concept, designed by Elon Musk 

中国航天科工集团发布了一项计划
这家公司称将研发时速将高达2500英里的列车
专家对人体是否能够承受这种速度怀有疑问
中国为了与Elon Musk提出的超级高铁概念竞争而提出这项计划



Ambitious plans to create a high-speed 'flying train' in China have been unveiled - but experts have voiced their skepticism.

中国公开了一份充满野心的计划，他们将设计一种高速“飞行列车”——但专家们对此表示怀疑。

The idea has been put forward by The China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation, which says the trains will have a top speed of 2,500mph - three times the speed of sound.

中国航天科工集团提出这一想法，称该列车的最高时速为2500英里，为音速的三倍。

Under the plans, the South China Morning Post reports, capsules will fly along reduced-pressure tubes.

据南华早报报道，在该计划中，胶囊型的车厢将在气压降低的管道中飞行。

Professor Zhao Jian, from the Beijing Transport University, told the publication that the human body would only be able to cope with the speeds for a short time, and said: 'In that case, are the passengers going to be astronauts only?'

北京交通大学的赵健教授告诉该报，人体只能短时间承受这种速度，他说：“在那种情况下，乘客难道要像宇航员一样吗？”

And one Weibo user, quoted by the South China Morning Post, joked: 'Can the government please invent technology to solve traffic jams first? It takes me an hour to drive from the fifth to the third ring road.'

南华早报引用的一位微博用户开玩笑说：“政府难道不能首先发明解决交通拥堵的技术吗？从五环开车到三环要花掉一个小时。”

In an editorial piece in state-owned newspaper The Paper, the company behind the plans wrote: 'The corporation has built rich experience and accumulated technological know-how through major projects, and it has the capabilities in simulation, modelling and experimentation for large-scale projects, as well as the world-class design capability for supersonic aircraft, all of which lay the important ground for the super-fast train project.'

提出该计划的公司在国有的报纸澎湃新闻的一篇社论里说：“集团通过大型工程积累了丰富经验和技术秘诀，而且拥有进行大型工程的仿真、建模和实验能力，同时拥有世界级超音速飞机的设计能力，所有这些成为超高速列车计划的重要基础。”

The trains are set to rival the Hyperloop concept put forward by Elon Musk, which would see trains without wheels propelled by air, and is mooted to have a top speed of 700mph.

中国为了与Elon Musk提出的超级高铁概念竞争，提出这一计划，后者的列车没有轮子，由空气驱动，概念速度最高为700英里。


Major Bloodnock
So none of the SR71 Blackbird pilots survived travelling at Mach 3? It's not the speed, it's the acceleration and braking that hurt...

那么3月3日的SR71黑鸟的飞行员全都死掉了吗？这不是速度问题，而是加速和制动对人体伤害很大……

Woolva
Artificial gravity can resolve this. However, that area of tech is way under funded and likely hundreds of years of..

人造重力能够解决这个问题。然而，这领域科技的研发资金不足，而且很可能耗时数百年。

Jonathan Frame
Woolva, There is no trick to gravity. The only way to "artificially" effect it is by putting mass together. If there is very little mass the effect of gravity will be weak. There is no way around this. Unless you want to be traveling on a spaceship the size of a small moon you are out of luck.

@Woolva，重力是没法操纵的。唯一获得人造效应的途径是将质量放在一起。如果质量很小，那么重力效应就会减弱。这一点没法改变。除非你想要坐在小型月亮大小的飞船里前进，否则没戏。

MayJam
Not a problem when you have the right amount of space.

只要你有合适大小的空间就没问题。

Stop the world 007
And were stuck with HS2

高铁2号就遇到困难了。

Mrgreener
Top speed 250mph

最高时速250英里。

AnimeFan
Which no one wants.

没人想要这个。

Scotty Mac
China already has but from scratch in he past 15 years 30,000 kilometres of high speed rail track and three versions of high speed train and the lasses model are operating at 450 kilometres per hour. They are state of the art and wold class. As are the booking system and the rail stations. Many integrated with bus, taxi, subway and airport. And in places like Australia they cannot even build a decent anything anymore as they destroy their power systems and wast 60 billion on failed green energy projects and the most expensive power in the world. You need vision ability and liveability and leading edge scientists to achieve such systems and China has it all in less than 50 years.

在过去15年里，中国从一无所有到拥有30000公里的高速铁路线和三种版本的高速列车，最新的型号在450km的时速下运行。他们的高铁是世界级的艺术品。订票系统和车站也是如此。很多与公交、的士、地铁和机场相结合。而澳大利亚这样的国家，任何体面的东西都造不出来，他们只会破坏掉能源系统，浪费600亿美元建设失败的绿色能源工程，他们的能源价格世界最贵。需要有眼光和适应能力，才能带领尖端科学家们完成这样的系统，而中国在不到50年里就拥有了这一切。

Forbin
You'll be able to get from Beijing to Shanghai in 20 minutes, but unfortunately the train takes three hours to slow down... by which time you'll be in Hong Kong. Some 2 hours later, your liver will probably catch up with you.

坐这种火车，你能够在20分钟里从北京抵达上海，但不幸的是它需要3个小时来减速，在这段时间里你都能到香港了。没准再过两个小时，你的肝脏才能追上你。

myturn
Great coment

好评论。

Chris
Going from 0 to 2200 mph would take 33 minutes at 0.5g accelleration, then you would need equal time to decellerate. Just to give some idea of realistic time and accellleration forces to achieve the speeds.

以0.5g的加速度，在33分钟可以从0加速到2200英里每小时，然后需要同样的时间来减速。这是要达到这个速度，需要的真正时间和加速度。

HornblowerRN
66 miles/sec acceleration, sounds like 33 minutes of pure fun!

66英里/秒的加速度，听起来33分钟纯粹是在搞笑！

HornblowerRN
miles/minute, whoops!

英里/分钟，说错了。

gunther59
Accelleration is meters/second/second miles/sec is a velocity.

加速度是米/分/分，英里/分是速度。

John
Chris - I think it's 3.3 minutes, not 33?

天呐，我觉得是3.3分钟，而不是33！

Forbin
I was only joking!

我只是在搞笑！

Scotty Mac
The world spins at 32,000 KPH and the space stations even faster as it moves around the world.

地球以32000千米/小时旋转，空间站围绕地球旋转，所以它的速度更快。

Scotty Mac
World spins at 1670 Kilometres per hour at its circumference.

地球在周长上的旋转速度是1670千米/小时。

Charles1000
The experts criticising are no experts. The human body cannot sense speed only acceleration and G force. At 2500 mph you would only sense speed if there is a window but you wouldn't feel it.

这个吹毛求疵的家伙不是专家。人体只是不能承受加速度和重力加速度。在2500英里的时速下，如果有窗户的话你只会知道速度，但感觉不到。

Tim_
Unless you stick your head out the window

除非你把头伸出窗外。 

Chris
It is lovely to see SOMEONE get it! You are absolutely correct! The train would travel at 2500mph, but the passenger relative to the train would travel at 0mph, unless they move about. If the "experts" were correct, how would someone in a SR71 at 2200mph or even the ISS crew at 17150 mph not get creamed? The "experts" needs to go back to preschool on this one.

很高兴看到某人理解到这一点！你说的完全正确！该列车在2500英里的时速下行进，但乘客与列车的相对速度为0，除非乘客们走来走去。如果“专家”说的正确，为什么时速2200英里的SR71里还有时速高达17150英里的ISS里的乘员没有被搅成浆糊？在这个话题上，这个“专家”需要回到幼儿园去。

thechosenone
Phew - glad to see there are still some of us with a brain - the speed isn't the issue - it's the acceleration and deceleration but even then - with today's technology and given enough to time to accelerate and decelerate safely, this shouldn't be a problem.

啧啧，很高兴看到我们中还有人有脑子，速度不是问题，问题是加减速。但在当前的技术和足够的时间下就能安全的加减速，应该不成问题。

Arathorn
The video used 2000 KPH which DM converted to 2500 MPH. I give up

视频里说的是2000km/小时，而DM转换为2500英里/小时。服了他们。

Mr_European
That is true Chris, the speed of the train/plain/space station doesn't matter really. The passenger on board doesn't move, the train does -)

是的，Chris，火车/飞机/空间站的速度其实没关系。其中的乘客相对于载具没有运动，载具自己在运动。

Jelly-Bean-Jon
it's a tad under 1250 mph = no worries

1250英里/小时以下都是洒洒水，不用担心。

Large Hadron
Yet we go around the sun at 67,000 mph.

然而我们以67000英里/小时的速度围绕太阳运动。

Lars Gonaards
It is not the speed you travel at, it is the acceleration and deceleration that can injure.

运行速度没关系，加速和减速会让人受伤。

neolang
As long as they can eliminate crashing then it should be fine.

只要能排除撞车，就没问题。

hello its me
i think they said something similar with train travel ie you cant breathe above 25mph. bring it on i say. the sooner the better.

我认为他们说的可能是类似于在高于25英里/小时的速度下运行的火车里难以呼吸的事。除了这个，我觉得越快越好。

mac
Yes you beat me to it! I remember reading that when the first trains were invented people were convinced they would not be able to survive the 'speed!.'

是啊，败给你了！我记得曾经读到过，当第一列火车发明的时候，人们曾认为在那种“速度”下不可能活下来。

Fishermans Enemy
If their bodies cant cope, come to Britain. 50mph trains and bus replacement service is easier on the body.

如果他们的身体受不了，那就来英国吧。来坐50英里/小时的火车和公交车会让他们的身体好受一点。

Terra
There is other dangers like collapsing on a hot day in a sardine packed train, or having a rage induced stroke from the daily delays you experience.

还有其他的危险，比如在大热天里坐上沙丁鱼罐头般的列车而崩溃，或者经历日常的晚点而狂怒到中风。

mac
50 mph? - you're lucky!

50英里/小时？你真是幸运！

Stephen
".........but experts fear the human body can't cope with moving that fast" ...... In the same way humans couldn't cope with the speed of the first trains? The experts of the day said much the same thing!

“……但专家恐怕人体难以承受那种高速”……人们是不是同样不能承受第一辆火车的速度？当时的专家说的差不多！

Martin
The Apollo astronauts re-entered the earth's atmosphere at 25,000mph and lived to tell the tale.

阿波罗的宇航员返回地球大气层的速度是25000英里/小时并且活下来，这个事实说明了一切。

valleyroad
All a load of rubbish just like interstellar space travel. Why isn't Concorde still flying you have to ask, and the answer is that just one crash with a load of VIP's on board is all it takes to cancel the enterprise.

专家一堆废话，想想星际旅行就知道。你要问为什么协和超音速客机还在飞行？答案是仅仅一次满载VIP乘客的坠毁就能毁掉整个企业。

thechosenone
Aye - perish the thought should should some rich people die. Poor people - that doesn't seem to matter so much

是啊，某些有钱人死掉就能让他们打消这个念头。而穷人？好像没这么重要。

Someone Else2
Yeah, but job done.

是啊，但完事儿了。

neolang
What a horrible comment to make. So if they are rich they don't have a right to live? What an anti-progressive point of view. I would find it hard to imagine those living in absolute squalid conditions in other countries would be wishing the same on us.

你的评论太可怕了。所以有钱人就有活下来的权力？多么反进步的观点。其他国家的居住在肮脏不堪环境下的人，会希望同样的事发生在我们身上，我发现这一点不堪设想。

Jelly-Bean-Jon
of course they have the same right to live, the point being made is no-one would have cared 

当然他们有权活下来，观点是没人会在乎他们。