摩根大通主席警告称比特币是骗局，贩卖比特币的员工会被解雇 [英国媒体]

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igital currency bitcoin ‘is a fraud' and only useful to drug dealers murderers and people in countries such as North Korea and Venezuela says a leading global banker.

一位引领全球银行家说，比特币“是一场欺局”，只对毒贩及朝鲜和委内瑞拉等国的人有用。

In a scathing attack on the cryptocurrency that has won a legion of celebrity fans Wall Street titan Jamie Dimon 61 said he was ‘shocked' by its popularity and warned it will ‘eventually blow up'.

已经盈得一大批名人粉丝的华尔街巨头杰米戴蒙在一场对加密货币的猛烈攻击中说，他对比特币受欢迎程度感到“震惊”，并警告说比特币最终会“破灭”。

The JP Morgan Chase chief executive said he would fire any employee trading bitcoin for being ‘stupid'. But he also revealed that one of his daughters had bought bitcoin adding: ‘It went up and she thinks she's a genius now.'

摩根大通首席执行官表示，他将解雇旗下任何一个涉足比特币交易的员工，因为他们“愚蠢”。但他也透露，自己的一个女儿也购买了比特币，并称:“比特币上涨了，她现在觉得自己是个天才。”

Dimon's comments followed a stark warning from Britain's financial regulator that digital currencies are high-risk speculative investments wide open to fraud.

在戴蒙发表上述言论之前，英国金融监管机构发出了严厉警告，称数字货币是高风险的投机性投资，广泛用于欺诈

Bitcoin is a virtual currency that allows people to bypass banks and traditional payment processes such as cash to buy goods and services. The value of a single bitcoin soared from less than $250 at the end of 2015 to a high above $5000 this month as it won a wave of fans such as Richard Branson Gwyneth Paltrow and Julian Assange.

比特币是一种虚拟货币，可以让人们绕过银行和传统的支付流程比如现金以购买商品和服务。比特币的单价从2015年底的不到250美元飙升至本月的5000美元以上，因为它赢得了理查德布兰森、格里格斯帕特洛和朱利安阿桑奇等粉丝的追捧。

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It has since fallen to around $4000 amid reports that a crackdown could see China shut exchanges where bitcoin is traded.

自从有传言中国可能会关闭比特币交易平台后，比特币的价格一度回落至4000美元左右

Dimon said: ‘If we had a trader who traded bitcoin I'd fire them in a second for two reasons. One it's against our rules. Two it's stupid.'

戴蒙说:“如果我们有一个交易员涉足了比特币交易，我会即刻炒掉他们，原因有二。一是违反我们的规则。二是这家伙愚蠢。”



He added: ‘The only good argument [for it] is that if you were in Venezuela or Ecuador or North Korea.

他补充道:“[炒比特币]唯一的正当理由是，假如你是在委内瑞拉、厄瓜多尔或朝鲜。”

‘Or if you were a drug dealer a murderer you are better off doing it in bitcoin than US dollars you are better off bypassing the system of your country. Don't ask me to short it. It could be at $20000 before this happens but it will eventually blow up.'

如果你是一个毒贩子，一个杀人犯，你最好是用比特币而不是用美元来做交易，你最好绕过你们国家的系统。别指望我做空比特币。神话被终结之前，比特币的价格说不定会上至2万美元，但是比特币最终将破灭。


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el. Glos
Odd JP Morgan is usually not that fussy about what it sells.

古怪啊，摩根大通通常是不会对自己的产品那么挑剔的。

Silas34
Bankers for you a despicable lot totally untrustworthy with the arrogance to match

这就是所谓的银行家，可鄙的人，完全不值得信任，骄傲自大。

ScottyJo
I agree with him 100%.

我100%同意他的观点

Littlebodge
He's probably right but you can't help feeling that he's a self interested hypocrite.

他可能是对的，但你会情不自禁地觉得他是一个自我感觉良好的伪君子。

Foolishwit
The 'Silk Road' dark web site used bitcoin to sell illegal and controlled drugs so i guess that you have to be wary of it.

暗网上的“丝绸之路”网店上销售非法的、受管制的毒品，用比特币结算，所以我猜你必须对它保持警惕。

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Arnold Appleby -> Foolishwit
Silk Road just proves the opposite Bitcoin is a bad place for illegal activity Ross Ulbricht was caught and given two life sentences! Bitcoin is an open ledger meaning anyone running a full node has access to every transaction ever made! Dimon's claim that "Bitcoin is only useful to drug dealers and murderers" it totally bogus! You won't be able to bribe politicians with Bitcoin! LOL.

相反丝绸之路只是证明了用比特币从事非法活动交易并不好，Ross Ulbricht被抓住了并被判了两个终身监禁！比特币是一个开放的分布帐，意味着运行完整节点的任何人都可以访问每一笔交易！戴蒙声称，“比特币唯一的用处是的对毒贩和杀人犯有用“完全是假的！你不能用比特币贿赂政客！大声笑.

sensible_sam
Surely the purpose of a currency is to be able to use it to purchase essential items? If Tesco BP and my local council don't accept Bitcoin then it has no value to me or the majority of other people. 

每种货币的价值不是在于其能不能用来购买必需品吗？如果Tesco BP 和我的地方委员会不接受比特币，那么它对我或大多数其他人都没有价值。

sensible_sam -> sensible_sam
Willem you are spot-on. There would be no purpose in me purchasing USD or euro unless I needed to make a purchase in those currencies. They have no value to me. I wouldn't purchase ?1000 of USD or euro in the hope that somebody might buy them off me at a greater price in the future.

Willem你是对的。除非我需要用这些货币买东西，否则我不会去购买欧元或者美元。它们对我毫无价值。我不会为了能在将来以更高的价格售出就去购买1000美元或者欧元。

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Arnold Appleby -> sensible_sam
They used to say the internet was just for nerds and criminals now everyone uses it. It's a similar pardigm shift and not everyones going to get it at first. A store can use something like BitPay that turns Bitcoin into local currency but Bitcoin is designed to be used directly with nothing more than a mobile phone.

他们以前还常常说，互联网是蠢货和犯罪分子才会使用的，但现在人人都用互联网。现在的比特币和以前的互联网一样，并不是每一个人刚开始都会接受（比特币）。如果哪一天比特币可以到商店支付使用，那一定会很快融入当地货币，只可惜比特币当初被设计成只能再手机上直接使用。

onlyukip
Bitcoin or whichever cyrptocurrancy survives will one day take over cash but the rich bank families will try Everything to stop it and I mean everything 

比特币或者任何脱离监管的其他货币都会威胁到富人阶层和银行家的利益，他们会尽一切努力去阻止它的，我是说一切。

Arnold Appleby -> onlyukip
@sensible_sam Bitcoin is to banking as the Internet was to publishing. As long as governments don't ban it it should make most current banking models unprofitable.

@sensible_sam 比特币对于银行来说就好比互联网对于出版业一样。政府如果不采取措施禁止比特币的话，比特币的流行会让大多数银行无利可图。

sensible_sam -> onlyukip
Arnold a commercial bank's primary business is to borrow funds from depositors lend that money to borrowers and make a profit in doing so. The need for business and individuals to borrow funds will not go away even if a new currency is introduced. Banks are the obvious institutions to go to for this. 

商业银行的盈利模式通过存钱和贷款利息差得来的，商业和个人借贷的需要并不会因为比特币这一类的新兴货币而消失。银行就是人们为了借贷而存在的机构。

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Arnold Appleby
He's just mad because his banker backed cryptocoin Ethereum is only worth $300. The free market should be allowed to decide which form of money is best. So far Bitcoin which doesn't require any bankers is at $4000.

他一定是疯了，因为他的银行家背后支撑的复制币——以太币仅仅值300美元。应该允许这个自由的货币市场自己决定什么样的货币形式是最好的。因此，当比特币价格在4000美元的时候，银行家们就要失业了。

wise_investor -> Arnold Appleby
Bubbles it has no value

比特币是泡沫，没有任何价值。

McEwin -> Arnold Appleby
wise_investor It has as much "value" as any government backed fiat currency. Sterling is 97% digital. As neither has any intrinsic value then it's about confidence. Also I'm pretty sure everyone called bubble at $30/bitcoin... so you're a little late.

它和政府支持的法定货币一样有价值。现在先令的数字化程度已经达到了97%。而这和内在价值都没关系，只和信心有关。我很确信当比特币卖30美元一个时，每个人都会说这有“泡沫”，，，怎么说呢，你来晚了。

MikeCroft
But he also revealed that one of his daughters had bought bitcoin adding: ?It went up and she thinks she?s a genius now.?... she probably voted for Corbyn and his magic money tree and the wiping of all student debt thinking she was a genius too!

但是他也透露出他的一个女儿也买了比特币，她认为自己是投资天才，她大概是支持Corbyn和他的魔法数字货币树的，因为这样做所有学生的借款都会付清，所以她也觉得自己是个天才了！

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Gigitty
Bitcoin is up over 1040% since the last time the dim one attacked it in 2015. 

自从2015年比特币经历了灰暗岁月以来，比特币升值了1040%。

concerned of -> Gigitty
Does that make it any less of a bubble? All other currencies are backed by the Countrys central bank. Where is the intrinsic value of bitcoin ?

这让泡沫减少了吗？所有其他货币体系都是有国家中央银行撑腰。比特币的价值在哪里呢？

Arnold Appleby -> Gigitty
@concerned of Fiat money is backed by a person having to provide their labor to pay back a debt gold is backed by the cost to mine the next ounce Bitcoin is backed by the cost to mine the next transaction block. There's no army forcing anyone to use Bitcoin it's just the free market deciding it's value.

人们之所以关心法定货币，是因为他们必须提供他们的劳动力来偿还债务。没有军队强迫任何人使用比特币，只是让自由市场决定它的价值。

expat welshman
I hear the Bitcoin reserve needs a bigger hard drive.

我听说储蓄比特币需要比较大的硬盘。

tested on animals
You don't need to be an economist to predict bitcoin's price you need to be a psychologist.

 你不需要成为一位经济学家去预测比特币的价格走势，你只需要成为一位心理学家就可以了。