色情有益于我们吗？ [英国媒体]

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Can porn be good for us?

色情对我们有益处吗？




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19 Nov 2015 | 18:24
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Dear Madam,

亲爱的女士，
 
I know several men who are now unable to be intimate and enjoy sex with a partner because of pornography. One being my best friend's husband. They are the perfect couple in everyone right way, except for this addiction that has taken over their lives, in the bedroom and out. One image/video is never enough, and eventually he was not aroused by normal porn. Pornography is a drug that destroys real love.

我知道有些男人因为色情作品而无法跟他们的伴侣进行亲密接触，也无法跟他们的伴侣一起享受性。我闺蜜的丈夫就是其中一个。他们是一对完美的夫妻，两个人都很正派，除了她丈夫对色情作品上瘾这点。但是这个瘾已经影响了他们俩的生活，不管是床上的还是床下的。一张色情照片/一部色情电影对她丈夫来说远远不够，最后他已经对一般程度的色情无感了。色情作品就像是毒品一样毁掉了真实的爱情。

19 Nov 2015 | 18:28
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Dear Madam,
 
亲爱的女士，

Can porn be good for us? NO!! My husband has been trapped for forty years now. He stole "our" sex life used it all up for himself.

色情有益于我们么？没有！！我丈夫已经沉迷于此40余年。他偷了“我们的”性生活，然后把它用光在了自己身上！
 
We separated for ten years and in that time his brain has become so warped that he is literally like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Any time his so-called "secret" rears its' ugly head he becomes enraged and violent. He lives the life of a typical addict; lying, hiding, deceiving everyone including himself. Physically he is unable to maintain an erection anymore because he is all used up. Even if he really were to quit, I'm sure the damage is done by now.

我们分开10年了，那段时间里他的思想已经扭曲到《化身博士》那种程度了。任何时候只要他所谓的“秘密”一暴露，他就变得暴躁易怒且使用暴力。他过上瘾君子那种生活：说谎、逃避、欺骗包括他自己在内的每个人。生理上来说，他已经不举了，因为纵欲过度。即使他现在戒掉这个，我相信造成的危害已经无法挽回了。
 
I'm 55 years old; like many victims of pornography I'm considered attractive and desirable to just about everyone but my husband.
 
我今年55岁；就像很多色轻作品的受害者一样，我在除了我丈夫以外的任何人眼中都是性感而且魅力四射的。

Porn stole my sex life before I had even exited my teens.

色情从我十几岁的时候就偷走了我的性生活。

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19 Nov 2015 | 18:34
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Dear Madam,

亲爱的女士，
 
Porn is one of the leading detriments to humanity of the 21st century because it is a leading cause of Erectile Dysfunction, it shifts the focus from pursuing meaningful, personal relationships to merely craving sex, it directly promotes sex slavery and prostitution, and it advocates human objectification.

色情是对21世纪人类最大的损害之一，因为它是导致勃起功能障碍的主要原因，令人们的关注点从追求有意义的私人关系转变成了仅仅对性的渴望，直接造成了性奴和卖淫者的增多，并且促进了将人类物化的风气。

19 Nov 2015 | 18:39
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Dear Madam,

亲爱的女士，
 
Porn conditions a person to crave sex lust rather than sex love. Love is intimate which is what we all desire. It draws us closer and it satisfies, a real bond in a relationship. Lust creates a barrier to true intimacy. And the craving is never fully satisfied with lust, it drives a person on for more and more until it takes over your brain and life and makes you very self-serving. With no lasting fulfillment. Thus all the destroyed relationships from porn.

色情严重制约了人们对性爱而非性欲的追求。爱是亲密的，是所有人都渴望的。它将我们拉近，让我们在一种真正的关系纽带中得到满足。而强烈的性欲则为真正的亲密关系设立障碍。对它的追求则永远得不到满足，它使人们沉溺其中，直至支配了人的思想和生活，使人们变得自私。由此获得的满足感不会长久。色情就这样毁掉了爱情。

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19 Nov 2015 | 18:41
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Dear Madam,
Porn is not healthy for us. As much as we want it to be, it just isn't. I love cookies. I wish so bad that they were good for me, but they just arent. They are a better tasting alternative to apples. Porn is the cookie of sex.
Porn ruined a 3 year relationship in which I was married. He couldn't have a normal sexual relationship with a person because he was always thinking about his computer; it becomes an obsession. It would be nice to think of all things that make us feel good as healthy, but that is not reality, and it is not healthy to live in a fantasy world.

 色情无益于我们的健康。虽然我们希望它有益，其实没有。正如我喜欢吃甜饼，我错误地以为它是好东西，但它不是，它只是味觉享受上比苹果更好的替代品。色情就是这个意义上的性爱甜饼。
色情毁掉了我的三年婚姻。我丈夫不能跟我进行正常的性爱，因为他总是沉迷于他的电脑，无法自拔。如果所有东西给我们的感觉都是美好健康的，那就好了，但现实并非如此，活在虚幻世界中是不健康的。

19 Nov 2015 | 18:48
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“How can one be well...when one suffers morally?” Leo Tolstoy.. one side of this discussion relates to the moral code we share as human beings..what if porn was degrading this code and making us abide by more barbaric ways of life where sex is a cheap material commercialized for the sake of a wealthy industry non concerned about the well being ( STDs and others)? the other aspect is scientific, does Science say porn has negative side effects? yes. And does it lead to addiction, violence, and erectile dysfunction? yes. Can it be in a way useful? maybe. but surely the risks outweigh the benefits. let us remember that we share sexual desires with other species and its main purpose is seeking partners and reproducing.. and it is our minds that make us comprehend that it is not plausible to have sex like pigeons everywhere。

“当一个人遭受精神折磨时……他怎么能好得了？”托翁说。这个帖子一方面涉及到我们人类的道德水准……当色情把我们的道德水准降低到信服原始生活方式——在企业的商业化运作下，性成为廉价品、不再以健康幸福为念（例如性病及其它）——时，怎么办？另一方面涉及到科学，科学研究认为色情有害吗？是的。色情会导致成瘾、暴力化和阳痿吗？是的。说它一无是处吗？也许不能，但是毫无疑问，它的风险大于好处。不要忘记，我们和其它生灵具有性欲的主要目的是获得伴侣和繁衍……我们的理智让我们明白，像鸽子那样随处滥交是不行的。

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19 Nov 2015 | 18:50
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Dear Madam,
100% no! There is overwhelming evidence that proves the detrimental nature of pornography on the mind, heart and world. (Look up"fightthenewdrug" for great information.) Having witnessed the pain experienced by those struggling with porn issues in relationships, I know without a doubt that "porn hurts no one" is an absolute lie on so many levels!
 
亲爱的女士：
百分之百的不可能！能证明色情作品对神志、心理乃至世界的危害的证据数不胜数（详情可以搜索fightthenewdrug 译注：外国版戒色吧？）。我亲眼见过两性关系中因为色情问题而导致的痛苦，所以毫无疑问，“色情不伤害人”这种说法在很多层次上都是彻底的谎言！

19 Nov 2015 | 19:29
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Dear Madam,
The negatives of PORN use far outweight any positives- it is damaging to our children, teens, marriages, societies and the world. it is degrading to women and it's use is far too prevalent. and it is ADDICTIVE just like a drug. I say NO!!!!

亲爱的女士：
色情的负面影响要远大于其正面影响——它会伤害我们的孩子、青年、夫妇、社会以至世界。它如此地盛行，对我们的妇女们是一种侮辱。同时，它也想毒品一样让人成瘾。我要对色情说不！！！

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19 Nov 2015 | 19:37
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Dear Madam,
I appreciate the intelligent conversation on both sides of this debate. However, the "Yes" argument is overwhelmingly supported by "if porn was this...then it would be good" comments. In its current state, I undeniably vote that NO porn cannot be good for humans. The industry and its leadership run rampant with perverse intention and participants are motivated by greed. The motive does matter and affect the viewer due to its consequence on the final product. This is not good for the soul of human society.

亲爱的女士，
我欣赏这场辩论中正反双方聪明的交谈。然而，“色情对人有益”的观点获得了来自那些“如果色情…那么它将对人有益”的评论压倒性的支持。但是在现在这种状态下，我肯定会投“色情对人没有好处”一票。色情业和它的领导者们怀着堕落的目的泛滥成灾，参与者们则受贪欲的驱动。动机确实会影响观看者，因为它会影响到最终的作品。这对人类社会的灵魂没有好处。

19 Nov 2015 | 19:42
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Dear Madam,
Intended uses, societal stigmas and admirable aspirations notwithstanding, the physiological effect of pornography use cannot be denied. This was recently documented in Drs. Kuhn and Gallinat's study, "Brain Structure and Functional Connectivity Associated with Pornography Consumption", published in JAMA Psychiatry, 2014.

亲爱的女士，
不管色情的预期用途基于社会偏见或值得称赞的目的，观看色情内容对人的生理影响是不可否认的。这刚刚被 Kuhn 博士和Gallinat博士的研究所证明，这项研究《与色情消费相关的大脑结构和功能联通性》发表在 JAMA Psychiatry，2014。
 
Their study concluded that overstimulation of sexual pleasure centers in the brain (measured in hours of porn viewed weekly) led to significant decreases in volume of the caudate nucleus and in connectivity throughout the cortex. In short, watching pornography literally degrades the brain, Mrs. Gallop.

他们的研究结论是：过度刺激大脑的性快感中心（在每个星期看几个小时色情内容的人中测试）将会导致尾状核的体积和大脑皮层中的联通性明显地减少。简而言之，观看看色情内容的确会使大脑衰退，Gallop夫人。
 
One might argue that this effect might be mediated with temperance in consumption, but the highly addictive nature of pornography is also well-documented.

有人可能会说这种影响可以通过有节制的色情消费来调节，但是色情的高度上瘾性也已经被证明了。
 
The above mentioned study can be found here: http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1874574

前面提到的研究可以在下面的网址找到：http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1874574

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19 Nov 2015 | 19:54
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Dear Madam,
Is it just me or do a lot of the last few negative comments sound very similar in their use of sensationalist and anecdotal arguments? Even with similar use of grammar and tone. Very strange...

亲爱的女士，
是否只有我持有这种观点；或者还有许多其他人的一些看起来差不多的哗众取宠或者小道消息类型的负面评论。

Oh and yes, someone uses porn too much, or has a problem, therefore it's bad and we must get rid of it. So I guess we should ban alcohol, any sport in which people get injured or killed (are there any that people don't?), all fast food restaurants, oh and of course let's ban shops as some people get addicted to shop lifting.

 是的，某些人过多接触色情杂志书刊，或者因为色情杂志而导致了一些问题，因此色情杂志是不好的，我们必须远离它。所以我想我们应该禁止酒精、任何可能会使得人们受伤或致死的运动（是否存在某种不可能使得人们受伤、致死的运动呢？），以及一切的快餐，当然了，也要禁止商店，因为有些人就是喜欢偷东西。

Oh and by the way the leading cause of erectile disfunction is not porn, it is endocrine diseases, and reduced blood flow etc., another reason to ban fast food!

 哦顺带说一下，导致勃起障碍的主要原因并不是色情杂志，而 是由于内分泌疾病、血流量减少等原因，另一个原因则要求我们禁止快餐！

19 Nov 2015 | 19:55
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Pornography's effect is widespread, becoming so much a part of society that even those who've not seen or sought it explicitly are still affected by it. And the increasing trend of violent porn gives us reason to be concerned or the damage this product will have on rising generations. Decisions on how to act/react now will have serious consequences in our and their futures.

色情文学的影响是很广泛的，它存在于社会的多方面，以至于哪些没有看过色情文学或者 明确寻找过色情文学的人也会受到它的影响。随着暴力色情日益增多的趋势，越来越要求我们关注这一方面——它对我们年轻一代造成的危害。
http://national.deseretnews.com/article/6546/even-children-who-haven8217...

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19 Nov 2015 | 20:47
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Dear Madam,
Pornography is definitely not a good thing. It has destroyed many lives and sacrifices love for pleasure. I've grown an addiction to it in my life from a very young age and since then I have sexual thoughts about people all the time, even those I truly love. I kick the thoughts out but they keep coming back. I'm not recovered from my addiction and I still fall back to it. I try to stop but have a hard time and when I do I have withdrawal. Pornography is taken too lightly in society today and the only way for love to win is if the hearts of men and women turn away from pornography. It's a virus that free choice must eradicate.

色情文学显然不是一个好东西。它以摧毁许多生命和牺牲爱情的愉悦感作为代价。我在一个很年轻的年纪沉溺于色情文学，从那以后我一直用性爱观念来看待别人，即使面对我真正喜欢的人也是如此。我想摆脱这些念头，但是他们又会持续回到我的脑海中。我还没有从这种瘾中回复，仍然会沉溺其中。我努力地想要戒掉它，因而度过了一段很艰难的时间，每次我这么做的时候总是会放弃。色情文化的危害在今天仍不被重视，对爱情来说唯一能战胜它的方式就是男男女女从内心远离它。它是一个病毒，我们的选择只能是根除它。

19 Nov 2015 | 21:03
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Dear Madam, good points are made by most of the participants. But it really does not change much of anything.

 亲爱的女士，许多参与者提出了好的观点。但是实际上这并不能改变什么。

People will enjoy what they find nice and enjoyable. It's a unique experience to everyone and no two experiences are alike.

人们总是喜欢沉浸在给他们带来愉悦的事物上。这是一份独特的体验，没有两个人对此的体验是完全一样的。 

Too all the people who say 'porn' has ruined their personal relationships. It can be said you made a poor choice in a 'partner'. Why blame the porn if your partner is not interested in you?

所有说色情毁掉他们个人恋爱关系的人，可以说你们在配偶方面做了一个不好的选择。如果你的伴侣对你不敢性趣，为什么要怪罪于色情呢？

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19 Nov 2015 | 22:47
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I dont know it you've read all the comments but some of them are actually from the men themselves saying how porn has ruined their sex life and their relationships. And if your argument about "People will enjoy what they find nice and enjoyable" how do you explain that some like to enjoy porn that involves rape or look-a-like rape (which is also a problem with porn; we can't tell them apart), humiliation, violent, abuse. or look-a-like so young that they are meant to look like kids, and the list goes on? Is it ok as long as people enjoy it?

楼上， 我不知道你是否读完了所有的评论，但是部分评论实际上是站在男性角度来说色情杂志如何毁掉他们的性生活以及他们的恋爱关系的。如果你的观点是关于“人们喜欢任何使得他们感到愉悦的东西”那么你要怎么解释那些喜欢涉及强奸或者看起来像强奸内容(这也是存在于色情杂志的一个问题；我们并不能把它排除与色情杂志)、羞辱、暴力、虐待、恋童的色情杂志呢？这些例子不胜枚举。真的是只要人们喜欢就是好的吗？

20 Nov 2015 | 00:17
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"Too all the people who say 'porn' has ruined their personal relationships. It can be said you made a poor choice in a 'partner'. Why blame the porn if your partner is not interested in you?"

“所有说色情毁掉他们个人恋爱关系的人，可以说你们在配偶方面做了一个不好的选择。如果你的伴侣对你不敢性趣，为什么要怪罪于色情呢？ ”

Whoa - a poor choice in partner? I don't think so - this was an addiction (hidden, in secret, shrouded in selfishness) long before I was ever in the picture.

 呵！在配偶方面做了一个不好的选择？我并不这么认为——这其实是一种瘾（潜藏的、隐秘的、出于内心私欲的）很早以前我就遇到过这种问题。

I did not find out about this until AFTER I was married, when I noticed the decline in intimacy, and then I CAUGHT him in the act. He SWORE it was just "this one time" and that he would "never do it again" and that he was "so sorry" - well, a secret is a secret is a secret - it has kept on.

直到我结婚以后我才注意到此， 我感受到双方亲密质量的下降，之后发现他在看色情杂志。他保证说“只有这一次”他将“再不会看了”他“很抱歉”——秘密就是秘密还是秘密-他之后还是会看。

Are you serious? Poor choice in partner. I hope no one ever lies to you one day, lest you have to face your own "poor choice."

你是认真的吗？配偶上的错误选择。我希望今后的某一天不会有人对你撒谎，免得你要面对自己的“错误选择”。

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19 Nov 2015 | 21:38
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Dear Madam,
I find the question itself very misleading.

亲爱的女士，
我发现这个问题本身就带有误导性。 

Porn is very popular and it is not against the law. Millions of people are choosing to devote their time and money to it. It is obvious a lot of people think it is good for them. So, the answer to this debate is obvious, too.

色情杂志 很受欢迎而且它并不违法。成千上万的人们选择将自己的时间和金额交给它。很明显，许多人认为色情杂志对他们来说是好的，因此这个辩论的答案也是显而易见的。

I am surprised such freedom loving publication as yours raise this question, then. Though, reading through NO position arguments and especially comments, I see there are lot of people out there who know better and would like to stick their noses into what people are doing in their bedrooms.

我诧异于你们这种热爱自由的出版物会提出这个问题。然而，通过阅读前面人们那些无立场的争论甚至是评论，我看到那里的许多聪明人想要干预别人自己卧室内的私事。

And to be clear, I am not defending very often, very harmful practices of actual porn out there. But porn is showing actual sex very explicitly on screen, I am totally fine with that. It can be good, sure.

要说明的是，我并不是在维护有害的色情实践。色情文化将真实的性非常直接的展现在屏幕上，我对此完全能接受。它当然可以是好的。

19 Nov 2015 | 22:39
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People spend a fortune and all their time on other addictions as drugs, doesn't mean its good for them. Or why do people keep eating unhealthy food when they are obese? And is porn actually showing sex? I thought sex was more than just penetration. Thats the problem actually. People equal sex with porn, when its not! Sex is so much more; intimacy, caring and respect for another person, and so on!

虽然人们将许多的金钱和时间花在诸如毒品之类的瘾上，但这并不表明毒品之类的东西对他们来说是好的。或者为什么人们会在自己明明处在肥胖状态的时候吃不健康食物？色情是对性的展示吗？我认为性不仅仅只是性交。这就是问题所在。人们将性等同于色情，这不完全正确！性包含了更多东西：亲密，对对方的关心和尊重，等等！

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19 Nov 2015 | 22:01
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Dear Madam,
I have personally known 3 men who have totally destroyed their marriages by what happened to their sex life and their emotional disconnect that came after continued use of porn. If your partner uses porn, they will physically desire it over you and begin to resent you. Porn is only about selfish gratification where as fulfilling sex/intimacy in marriage(or long term relationships) comes from the closeness, trust and true love felt with your partner during sex.

亲爱的女士，
我个人知道有三个男的由于持续沉溺于色情文化而影响到他们各自的性生活以及感情方面的脱节，最终完全毁掉了他们婚姻。如果你们的伴侣对色情文化上瘾，他们会根据色情文化上的内容对你的身体寄予期望，然后开始厌恶你。色情文化仅关乎自我私欲的满足，而婚姻（或者是一段长期的恋爱关系）中性行为/亲昵关系的满足来自于性爱时所感受到的亲密，信任和真爱之感。