北京--中国外交部于周二发言称要等着看日方及韩国之后是怎么严肃对待中国的,并且日本这是对战时性奴隶(或者叫“慰安妇”)问题做了一件里程碑的事。日本网友: 答应南韩的主张已经证明了日本的诚意,现在是南韩实现日方请求移除慰安妇雕像以展现诚意了。
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BEIJING —China’s Foreign Ministry said on Tuesday it would “wait and see” how sincere Japan was after South Korea and Japan reached a landmark agreement to resolve the issue of wartime sex slaves, or “comfort women,” as they are euphemistically known.
北京--中国外交部于周二发言称要等着看日方及韩国之后是怎么严肃对待中国的,并且日本这是对战时性奴隶(或者叫“慰安妇”)问题做了一件里程碑的事
The issue that has long plagued ties between South Korea and Japan, as well as between China and Japan.
日韩和日中的关系是一个长期困扰日本的问题。
(呃呃正文部分是不是少了)
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AsianGaijinYesWeExistDEC. 30, 2015 - 07:18AM JST
Don't bother. Mrs. Abe was practically tripping over herself to prove that it was all tatemae.
别烦了,安倍实际上已经绊倒自己(反驳自己)来证明那个协议全是官方胡诌。
paulinusaDEC. 30, 2015 - 09:15AM JST
The Japan/South Korea agreement can't make the Chinese propaganda machine very happy. Now that it's done there's one less opportunity for them to play South Korea and the rest of Asia against Japan.
日韩协定不可能让中国政治宣传机器感到很高兴。现在协议签好了中国就少了一个扮演韩国以及其他亚洲国家对抗日本的机会。
AsianGaijinYesWeExistDEC. 30, 2015 - 10:08AM JST
@paulinusa
Guess you miss the follow up news of Abe's wife visiting that shrine reviled by the Koreans, before the ink dried on the agreement.
在协议上的墨水干之前 ,我想你们会错过接下来的韩国人斥责安倍夫人参拜靖国神社的新闻。
paulinusaDEC. 30, 2015 - 10:48AM JST
"Guess you miss the follow up news of Abe's wife visiting that shrine reviled by the Koreans, before the ink dried on the agreement
No, I didn't miss it. I make no apologies for Japanese ultra-nationalism, but then again China and South Korea have constantly used Japan's past to stir up nationalist sentiment and further their own political interests. And I also know that whatever Japan says or does will never win any commenters over to their position.
“ 在协议上的墨水干之前 ,我想你们会错过接下来的韩国人斥责安倍夫人参拜靖国神社的新闻。”
不,我没有错过。我不是为日本的极端民族主义辩解,但是中国和韩国又经常用日本的过去来煽动民族主义情绪,助长他们的政治利益。并且我也知道不管日本怎么说怎么做都不会赢得任何批评家的立场。
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Mr. NoidallDEC. 30, 2015 - 11:01AM JST
China in wait: oh my god, it looks like Japan may actually atone for WW2. Let's hope not, then we won't have anymore political sticks to beat Japan over the head with or to stir the hatred among our own populace. Can you imagine that? If the people don't have scorn in their hearts we won't be able to exercise our control over them.
等待中的中国:我的天,这看起来日本实际上在为二战赎罪。但愿不是,否则我们将不再能就政治问题敲打日本或在我们的民众中间激起仇恨了。你能想象那个景象吗?如果民众心中没有了恼怒,我们将不能再操弄他们了。
AsianGaijinYesWeExistDEC. 30, 2015 - 11:09AM JST
China and South Korea have constantly used Japan's past to stir up nationalist sentiment
And Japan is constantly enabling them.
"I'm sorry"
"no, not really" [under breath]
中国和韩国不断利用日本的过去来挑起民族主义情绪
日本不停地授予他们权利
对不起
不,不是真的(小声咕噜)
AlanDEC. 30, 2015 - 11:47AM JST
Japan’s history of militarism and aggression had brought deep suffering to China and other Asian countries.
And China's history of human rights abuses has brought deep suffering to its own people. Without diminishing Japan's war crimes, I am amazed that China considers itself qualified to sit in judgment on another country's record of human rights violations.
日本军国主义和侵略的历史给中国和其他亚洲国家带来了深重的苦难。
而中国人权滥用的历史给它的人民带来了深重的苦难。
没有减少日本的战争罪行,
我感到惊讶的是,中国却认为自己有资格审判另一个国家的侵犯人权记录。
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GWDEC. 30, 2015 - 12:15PM JST
While there is a LOT about China I don't like/agree with they are prudent to sit & wait to see how Japan will sabotage its own deal in all likelihood. abe's idiot wife certainly got it off to a hell of a start!
我认为精明的中国很大可能不会坐等日本肆意破坏他们的经营。安倍愚蠢的老婆只是下地狱的开始。
And today reading the right wing nut jobs who run the ""Japan News"" newspaper, again as always full of lies, the editorials are straight up propaganda, there were no forced sex slaves, Japan is innocent, Korea is all wrong, pretty nasty stuff. OH and how NOW Japan has to "educate" the rest of the world about how Japan did no wrong........off the charts stuff.
如今阅读日本右翼疯子经营的“日本新闻”报纸,永远都充斥着谎言,社论永远都是直来直去的宣传标语:没有被强迫的性奴,日本是无辜的,韩国是一个错误的、令人讨厌的国家,无论如何日本必须“教育”日本以外的世界日本没有做错——这就是文章全部。
Japan is going to have a hell of a time I think trying to fool the world its sincere!
我认为日本继续这样愚弄整个世界,迟早有一天会下地狱的!
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troubleDEC. 30, 2015 - 12:55PM JST
Have you been drinking, GW? There is nothing of the sort in the Japan News.
楼上你喝多了吗?《日本新闻》中并没有类似报道。
They did mention that "A South Korean support group for former comfort women has slammed the latest deal as 'diplomatic collusion that betrays the victims and the South Korean people.'"
他们明确提到了“一个韩国支持前慰安妇的团体已经猛烈抨击了最近(韩国政府)的决定,声称这是一次‘背叛了受害者和韩国人民的’外交勾结”。
That's just crazy talk, don't you think?
这仅仅是疯话,难道你不这么认为吗?
Danny BloomDEC. 30, 2015 - 01:00PM JST
@Gw. The Japan news is run by the yOmiuri shimbun which owns the Japan news and its not rightwing at all merely center right conservative with best of intentions. I used to work there. Good editors in fact. @Gw,
日本新闻是属于读卖新闻并由它运营的,读卖新闻完全没有右翼背景,仅仅是出于良好意图而偏于右倾保守。我曾经在那儿工作,事实上编辑们都很不错。
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Wc626DEC. 30, 2015 - 01:01PM JST
Japan has to "educate" the rest of the world about how Japan did no wrong........off the charts stuff.
Yeah GW. Good post. Off the charts, alright. It's funny how they (ultra-nationalists) argue that ww2 japan occupied their asian neighbors in order to "liberate" them from western powers. Worse how they outright deny the Nanjing Massacre.
Regarding the sex slave issue, they have even went as far as sending scholars to (US Textbook publisher) McGraw in order to "educate" them how Japan did no wrong.
从图表的资料得出,日本不得不”教育“这个世界上其它所有的人,告诉他们日本是如何地光明正确。。
gw说得不错,好帖子,是吖,真是好极了。有意思的是这些极端民族主义者认为二战日本占领亚洲邻国是为了将他们从西方势力中“解放”出来。更糟糕的是他们公然否认南京大屠杀。
至于慰安妇问题,他们甚至做到了直接向麦格劳公司(一家美国教科书出版商)派出专家试图”教育“他们日本是如何的没有过错。
A RealistDEC. 30, 2015 - 02:52PM JST
Oh, no worry there. Nothing Japan does will ever be "sincere enough" or "good enough" for China or Korea. They will never, ever stop hating Japan; it's who they are and what they do. As if they really care about "comfort women" or anybody else, all they care about is that they were defeated and humiliated and they will never forgive that in a thousand years.
其实不用担心什么。对于中韩来说,日本所做的事情永远“不够真诚”,永远“不够好”。他们就是这样的,说得好像他们真的关心”慰安妇“或者其他人似的。中韩唯一关心的事情是他们曾经被打败和羞辱过,而对此他们1000年内都不会原谅。
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Gaijin DesiDEC. 30, 2015 - 05:31PM JST
What a shame for Chinese.
对中国人的羞辱
ThePBotDEC. 31, 2015 - 07:49AM JST
People saying "China must feel uneasy that Korea and Japan can reach a deal....." etc. etc.
then ****Abe's wife visits Yasukuni Shrine**** and ****Japan won't give money to the fund unless the comfort woman statue is removed**** happens....So I think before people point fingers at China, understand that Japan actually proved China's skepticism right. lol.
人们说“中国一定会感到不安,韩国和日本可以达成协议”等等。
然后 * * * 安倍晋三的妻子参拜靖国神厕 * * * 和 * * * 日本不会把钱给基金会,除非慰安妇雕像撤除 * * * 会发生......所以我认为之前指责中国的人们会懂得,日本实际上证明中国的怀疑是正确。哈哈。
OssanAmericaDEC. 31, 2015 - 08:46AM JST
Japan has already proven it's sincerity by agreeing to SKorea;s demand, Now SKorea can show IT'S sincerity by removing the monument as Japan requests.
答应南韩的主张已经证明了日本的诚意,现在是南韩实现日方请求移除慰安妇雕像以展现诚意了
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