春节攻势:饥饿的中国和被愚弄的美国人(下) [联合国媒体]

unz网友:林引用中国宫廷的恐怖来吓唬被抛弃的黑暗势力,但是……这是多久以前的事了,一千年前还是两千年前?中国已经进入21世纪,尽管存在不少问题。他仍然在努力,但是中国的变化日新月异。哦,为什么‘世界上最古老的名猪’仍然给蒙古人钱让他折腾….这难道不是文明时代吗......

Tet Offensives, Hungry China and Dumbed Down Americans

春节攻势:饥饿的中国和被愚弄的美国人



【说明】本篇原文是一位越南精英所撰写的评论文。借越南一个历史事件纪念日(春节攻势)展开,以及各种无前因有后果的历史(曲解)事实,来震聋发聩一下美国人。然而,不晓得是习惯歪曲历史导致本事没学全,还是西方也不待见越南。这招祸引中国似乎变成了笑话。但是很好的折射了中国现在所处境地——依靠着中国吃饭的脑子拎不清,对手中却不乏许多清醒深刻眼光独到的。这部分是评论的第三部分。

第一、二部分地址:http://translate.ltaaa.com/article/3832
http://translate.ltaaa.com/article/3889

denk says:
February 15, 2018 at 2:47 pm GMT • 300 Words
Linh invokes the horrors of Chinese imperial court to scare the dumped down murkkans but…..thats how long ago, one thousand, two thousands ?
China has marched into the 21c, warts and all.
Its still work in progress, but China is improving with each passing day.
OTOH, why’s the ‘world’s oldest democracy’ still giving the Mongols a good run for their money…..isnt this supposedly the era of civilisation ?
‘Meanwhile, back at Falluja, unarmed men were slaughtered; children mutilated and murdered. Some women “spontaneously aborted babies due to the terrible shock and pressure of carpet bombing”. (Go to We Hold These Truths – and click on ‘Kill on Sight’).
At Falluja hospital, according to the notes of a Turkish doctor, Hakim Mirzoev there was “an endless stream of wounded children, women, and elders. Not dozens – hundreds! On the third day the medicines started to come to the end. Especially anaesthetics and antibiotics”. Then the Americans stormed the wards, strip searched the doctors, smashed the last bottle of Iodine, dragged away the half dead male patients, as family visitors wailed and watched in horror. A process that was repeated over several days.
As reports such as these circulate among the dwindling number of Westerners curious about our war crimes, there have been half baked apologias. “Look, a torture room”, intones the voice, as the camera pans a squalid interior. We are supposed to be thankful for the flattening Falluja; instead, we are reminded of the majestic horrors at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay.
GOD BLESS THE MONGOLS
Meanwhile, the use of torture by the US is gradually being legitimised by the White House and the Courts. On this point we a spot a difference between the two Great Invaders. The Mongols did not torture, mutilate or maim, even though their enemies did.
Another difference: while both invasions led to the destruction of museums and libraries, the Mongols at least had a reason – their troops needed the leather of the bindings to make shoes.

林引用中国宫廷的恐怖来吓唬被抛弃的黑暗势力,但是……这是多久以前的事了,一千年前还是两千年前?
中国已经进入21世纪,尽管存在不少问题。
他仍然在努力,但是中国的变化日新月异。
哦,为什么‘世界上最古老的名猪’仍然给蒙古人钱让他折腾….这难道不是文明时代吗?

与此同时,在法鲁贾手无寸铁的人被屠杀,儿童被肢解和谋杀。一些妇女因为“地毯式轰炸造成巨大震动和压力导致流产”(到我们持有这些真理——点击‘现场屠杀’)
在法鲁贾医院,根据土耳其医生哈基姆·米尔佐耶夫的记录显示,“受伤儿童、妇女和老人源源不断的宋进来。不是几十——是几百!在第三天,药物开始短缺。尤其是麻醉剂和抗生素。然后美国人冲进病房,剥去病人衣服,随意搜查医生,打碎了最后一瓶碘酒,拖走了半死的男性病人。连续几天不断重复这个过程。”

像这样的报道在对我们的战争罪行感兴趣的,越来越少的西方人中间传开,有些人半生不熟的道歉了。“看,一个拷问室”,当摄像机拍出肮脏的房间内部时,发出的刺耳声音。我们应该感谢被夷为平地的法鲁贾;它代替我们在阿布格莱布和关塔那摩湾的巨大恐惧。
上帝保佑蒙古人。
与此同时,美国使用酷刑正逐渐被白宫和法院合法化。在这一点上,我们发现了两个大侵略者之间的不同之处。蒙古人并没有折磨、残害或弄残他们的敌人,尽管他们的敌人是这样做了。
另一个不同之处是:虽然这两次入侵都导致博物馆和图书馆被毁,但蒙古人至少有一个理由——他们的军队需要这些书本封皮的皮革来制作鞋子。

augusto says: • Website
February 15, 2018 at 3:55 pm GMT • 200 Words
@Anon
Yes, you think the Chinese rule won′t be so complete – but your forget one thing: the asians will offer greedy and spineless yankees what they like most: the appearance of easy money.
You cannot deny that the moral fibers of the american sheeple are close to rotten fractures. Just compare a russian or korean soldiear to an american… And just see what chinese and russians do with a mere 10 percent fraction of US investment in weaponry! What the US does keep and glories on is the title of world ′s most criminal state.
The state that recognizes Mohamedu shahila innocence, tortures him three more years and in the end has the supreme cowardice of sending him home in a plane hand cuffed, tied to a plane chair and with blinded eyes… this state is simply far more racaille than Genghis Khan at his heyday. No less.
The US are a worlwide shame and what keeps you alive is a monstrous MSM propaganda machine.
And so far in 8000 years of History all empires who morally decaying plunged into a rapid destruction. And their enemies were far less powerful than Beijing will be in 15 years.
England should not have won without american support.,

是的,你认为中国的规则是不完善的,但是你忘了一件事:亚洲人会给贪婪和懦弱的北方佬提供他们最喜欢的东西:钱
你不能否认,美国牧羊犬的道德品质是腐烂破裂的。把俄罗斯或韩国士兵同美国士兵做个比较……看看中国和俄罗斯用美国投资武器10%的资金做了些什么事吧!美国保持的所谓荣耀头衔就是成为世界上最可耻的国家。

承认穆罕默德-沙希拉无罪的国家又折磨了他三年,并最终把带着手铐,绑在椅上,眼睛瞎了的他送回了家…这个国家已经离成吉思汗鼎盛时期的很遥远了。
美国是全世界的耻辱,你生活着的地方是一台制造标准的宣传机器。
到目前为止,在8000年的历史中,所有道德败坏的帝国都陷入了迅速的毁灭之中。在未来的15年北京的对手远不如他们强大。
如果没有美国的支持,英格兰是无法取得胜利的。

Anon • Disclaimer says:
February 15, 2018 at 6:33 pm GMT • 200 Words
@Linh Dinh
Linh, these happens to whole world even those very developed one, just differ in prence and magnitude. It happens in my country too.
In China, such things also always been reported including Dr get beaten up. Vietnam is still full of poverty people with no chance to get educated on moral values after all these wars. It will take another generation like China to change.
May be one day you should just go up to China and travel around to understand your big neighbour better, and get direct feel of their people. The world is moving forward, Chinese are very pragmatic now.
Also research from wider sources about Vietnam and China entangling issues, past war history, particular SCS spratly islands historical facts. Perhaps one day you can have better conclusion and able to help make the two neighbors to live cordially without been manipulated by US and Vietcon corrupted politicians to make your country as canon fodder like mine.
At least we could see through US evil intention, and trying to resist our government msm propaganda to drive the country to joint the US evil axis confrontation with China.

林,这些事情发生在整个世界,甚至是那些非常发达的国家,只是在流行程度和规模上有所不同。这也发生在我的国家。
在中国,也一直有这样的报道,包括医生被殴打。在经历了这些战争之后,越南仍然充斥着不少贫困人口,没有机会接受道德价值观的教育。像中国一样这需要一代人的时间才能改变。
也许有一天,你应该去中国旅游,更好地了解一下你这个大个头的邻居,并直接感受一下他们的人民。世界在前进,中国人现在很务实。



Daniel Chieh says:
February 15, 2018 at 8:15 pm GMT • 200 Words
@22pp22
Because they invaded China and lost their culture. The Manchu are ethnically and genetically far more extant than they are culturally, something that they recognized themselves even in rulership of the Qing.
The essential point is that invading China is typically suicidal; something which even the Japanese in their invasion of China were acutely aware of, and wrote quite a bit at the time of(their effort in Taiwan, in that sense, was a kind of model that they might be able to export the Imperial Rising Sun culture). It should be noted that to this day, there are ultraright gangs of Japan consider themselves to be the true inheritors of ancient Chinese civilization which modern Chinese have debased and without going too deeply into it, the Japanese arguably did indeed have genuinely adherents in China for their Great East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, though their atrocities rapidly destroyed any goodwill. At any rate, had they prevailed in China, they would likely used such arguments which would potentially put them in the same position as the Manchu.
So, had Japan completed her conquest of China, and in a few hundred years, ceased to be Japan but a province of greater China, I would also hardly consider that be a “Chinese colonization.” Just another invasion went wrong.
As with many others here, its clear that you have an agenda and am far more interested in preaching it than following actual history(which is pretty public). Since this has been pretty extensively discussed at this point, I don’t see a reason to extend it further.

因为他们侵略了中国,失去了他们的文化。满族在种族上和遗传上比文化上更为明显,即使在清朝统治时期,他们也承认这一点。
最重要的是,侵略中国是典型的自杀行为,甚至日本人在入侵中国时也敏锐地意识到了这一点,(从这个意义上说,他们在台湾的努力是一种可以输出帝国朝阳文化的典范)。值得注意的是,直到今天,日本有一些极端的黑帮认为自己是中国古代文明的真正继承者,而现代中国人并没有对其进行深入研究,日本人确实是中国真正的追随者,为他们的东亚大共荣圈服务,尽管他们的暴行迅速地摧毁了所有善意。无论如何,如果他们在中国占了上风,他们可能会使用这样的论点,这可能会使他们变得同满族一样地位。

因此,如果日本完成了对中国的征服,在几百年后,不再会是日本,只会是一个大中国的省份,我不认为那是“中国在殖民”。只是又一次入侵错了。
和这里的许多其他人一样,很明显,你有一个议程,比起跟随实际的历史(这是总所周知的)我对它更感兴趣。由于这一点已经被广泛讨论过了,我看不出有什么理由进一步扩展它了。

22pp22 says:
February 15, 2018 at 8:31 pm GMT • 100 Words
@DANIEL Chieh
I lived in Japan for seven years, speak Japanese and know hundreds of Japanese. The only people who think like that are members of the Aikokuto and they are a tiny minority. I have never met anyone who wants to annex Taiwan.
Hideyoshi’s invasion of Korea and the Mongol Invasions are ancient history. Modern Japanese give them very little thought unless they have to pass a high school history exam.
It is the Chinese who have an enormous chip on their shoulder, not the Japanese. The Chinese still obsess about the Opium Wars. The Japanese have moved on from that kind of thinking.
You clearly have little experience of the Japanese. I would happily have nothing to do with the Chinese, but so many of them have moved here they are hard to avoid.

楼上的,我在日本住了七年,会说日语,认识数百的日本人。唯一这样认为的人是Aikokato的成员,他们是极少数。我从未见过任何想要吞并台湾的人。
日本入侵朝鲜和蒙古侵略行为都是古代的历史。现代日本人很少考虑这些,除非他们必须通过高中历史考试。扛着巨大历史包袱的是中国人,而不是日本人。中国人还在纠结于鸦片战争。日本人已经从这种想法中走了出来。
你显然对日本人没什么经验。我很高兴与中国人没有任何往来,但他们中有这么多人搬到日本来,同他们接触是很难避免的。

Anon • Disclaimer says:
February 16, 2018 at 8:59 am GMT • 200 Words
@22pp22
They care about the Kuriles and the Senkaku Islands, but beyond that they couldn’t care less what you or I think. If the entire population of China died tomorrow, it might just make page three of the Asahi Shinbun.
So they need to conduct many military provocation by gifting various weapons to Vietnam & Philippines, collaborate with US, Australia & India military to contain China, actively instigate Aseans in SCS crisis, sabotaging China Obor rail projects everywhere in Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Africa, India,… developing new aircraft/copter carrier, missles, submarines for a Coastal Defense Force that is one of world largest most advanced military, all for that little Kuriles and Diaoyu island concern?
Then quarrel with SKorea demanding their xxx island..make artificial island ontop faraway outcrop corals to illegally claim EEZ….that they really care less. Reinterpret & rewriting constitution that enabled the nation to wage war that they care less.
You got to try harder with your Jap Samurai sword is for sushi propaganda.
If entire China population died, Japan will has to clean their ass with bare hand and Asahi Shinbun ceased to print. But entire Anglos disappearance has little impact to everyone life, as many better Europeans, Jews, Asians… can replace them quickly. Asahi Shinbun probably won’t notice, except the world has finally relieve from the greatest war mongering ethnic in last few centuries. Most wars will cease itself.

“他们关心的是千岛群岛和尖阁诸岛,但除此之外,他们不在乎你或我的想法。如果明天全部中国的人都死光了,那可能只是“朝日新闻”的第三页上的一篇新闻而已。”(这是引用上面鬼子的某个回复)
因此,他们需要通过向越南和菲律宾提供各种武器进行军事挑衅,与美国、澳大利亚和印度军方合作遏制中国,在南海危机中积极煽动东盟,破坏中国一带一路在泰国、马来西亚、新加坡、印度尼西亚、非洲、印度…的铁路项目。为世界上最大的最先进的军事力量之一的海防部队开发新的飞机/直升机航母、导弹、潜艇,所有这些都是为了那个小小的库里尔斯和钓鱼岛?

然后与韩国争吵,要求他们的xxx岛。在遥远的谋篇珊瑚上造一个人工岛,非法宣称专属经济区…。.他们真的不在乎重新解释和改写宪法,使国家能够发动他们不太关心的战争。
拿着你的日本武士刀做寿司来宣传(日本热爱和平),你得更努力一些才是。
如果整个中国人死光了,日本将会不得不赤手空拳清理掉他们当中的蠢货而朝日新闻也将停止印刷(意思是停止用它继续培养蠢货)。但是整个盎格鲁的消失对每个人的生活几乎没有什么影响,会许多更好的欧洲人、犹太人、亚洲人…可以迅速填补空白。朝日新闻可能不会注意到这一点,除非世界终于摆脱了过去几个世纪以来最伟大的种族战争。大多数战争都会自行停止。

denk says:
February 17, 2018 at 2:58 am GMT • 300 Words
Didn’t PM May juz beg Xi in Beijing for some food money, but use it to pump fuel for new air/c when 10% people go hungry?
Thats the trouble with this five eyes gang, all god damned hypocrites,
murkka MNC want Chinese market, meanwhile Washington wanna detach some pieces from China. They even concocted a funny word for it, congagement.
meaning to contain and engage at the same time,
this is just whiteys double speak for ‘I want your monies , but I wanna screw your all the same’ !
Ditto that ‘lucky country’, Oz, it depends on the Chinese market yet it has been ramping up the ‘yellow peril’ B.S. to hysterical pitch.
Thats the trouble with being a murkkan poodle, ‘ally’, when uncle sham barks ‘jump’, the Aussies could only woof ‘how high my lord’. !
The troll with the idiotic moniker 22p says he doesnt wanna see Oz to become an economic appendage to China, as if being a ‘deputy sheriff’ to the ‘world cop’, the west’s most wanted outlaw, is anything to crow about !
Notice how Canberra is getting hysterical on the China gate all cuz some senator’ cozy relation with a Chinese tycoon !
FUKUS M.O. is typically
Your money or your life,
Those who open itself wide for uncle sham would be left alone or become uncle’s concubine, like India/
With China, its
Your money AND your life !
Chinese have damn good reasons to fukus,
But why so much hostility from whiteys, they have no god damned business hating Chinese …..
They’r the ones dissing it out ever since the Opium war ???



22pp22 says:
February 17, 2018 at 6:45 am GMT • 100 Words
We can make our own cars and our own electronic goods. Your imported the technology from us, not the other way round. I am quite happy for the West and China to separate. We were prosperous while you literally starved under your hero Mao.
It was the treasonous greed of our own elites that hollowed out our industries and transferred them to China.
And if you think there’s widespread hunger in the English-speaking world, then you have never been there.
Obesity is the problem in poor areas, not hunger.
China can retreat back behind the bamboo curtain. I would not care if I never saw another Chinese person ever again.
We were happier without you. You have made it plain you would be happier without us.
Japan, by far and away East Asia’s premier civilization, shows us that we don’t need immigration either.
Screw globalism.

我们可以自己制造汽车和电子产品。你从我们这里引进了技术,而不是反过来。我很高兴西方和中国分开。当你在挨饿的时候,我们很繁荣。正是我们本国精英的叛逆贪婪使我们的产业空洞化,并将它们转移到了中国。
如果你认为在讲英语的世界里存在着广泛的饥饿,那么你肯定从来没有去过那里。
肥胖才是贫困地区的问题,而不是饥饿。
中国可以退到幕后去。如果我再也看不见一个中国人,我就不会在乎了。
没有你们我们更快乐。你也说了没有我们你们会更幸福的。
日本是东亚最重要的文明国家,它向我们表明,我们也不需要移民。去他妈的全球主义。

TT says:
February 17, 2018 at 3:36 pm GMT • 600 Words
@denk
Ditto that ‘lucky country’, Oz, it depends on the Chinese market yet it has been ramping up the ‘yellow peril’ B.S. to hysterical pitch.
Thats the trouble with being a murkkan poodle, ‘ally’, when uncle sham barks ‘jump’, the Aussies could only woof ‘how high my lord’. !
Lol. NZ will be next. One Swedish told me they don’t bother election, as all candidates are dictate by US.
US might be controlling every countries leaders thru its 5eyes holding them ransom with threats & secret exposure. As you had mentioned before, these leaders aren’t stupid to chain their own country to the war machine of Uncle Scam to fight against their bread basket.
Oz had history of PM got remove by US CIA after going against US atrocity Vietnam war. Recently many Oz politicians got squeezed out with double citizenship nonsense, deputy PM too, may be for not obey Sinophobe playbook.
Spore PM LHL was strongly against Philippine Aquino & Vietnam PM clowns to drag Asean into their SCS disputes. He even proclaimed Russia is an indispensable leader for all global issues. But immediately after Oboma Hussein summon him to WH, he vehemently lies on SCS against China and became ultra anti-China since.
Oboma muz had whispered into pinky ear some obscene secret to frighten him like SKorea exPres Park. May be he got stripped search to take nude pics…? I think Msia, Cambodia, Thai, Myanmar, Laos, Nepal, Sri Lanka are resisting US anti-China playbook now, will see more circus shows.
Perhaps only after China can prove it is capable to protect its allies from US aggression, such sinophobe Horriblewood plays will keep repeating. Russian has started to do it in Syria war after failing to protect its allies Yugoslavia, Iraq & Libya previously.
When Philippine Pres Dutert rebel against US, ISIS was sent in to take down one of its city. Who can believe, a rag tag terrorists could overnight moved in enmass with heavy weapons to win a country regular army, courtesy of Uncle Scam special force & fantastic logistic powess. China help to kick out FUKUS terrorists by sending in its special force & snipers. So Uncle Scam change tactics, its Human Rights now.
Popular Brazil ex-Pres was brought down by staged corruption trial. Msia Najib is under tremendous Facebook smearing, organized color revolution and M1D scandal since he closed up with China. Pakistan PM was down by legal system. Mongolia politician contest on anti-China ground was elected when 80% of its trade is with China. All China neighbors leaders are under attacked, except Abe got continuous landslide win.
Now Mauritius Pres is under FUKUSIsInd besieged after signing FTA with China(a Supreme court judge can rule as his like over elected gov), with FukusIsIn broadcasting fake news Mauritius people begging India to send in troops to help. Everyone know all South Asians hate Indian evil claws stretching all over SAsia. China juz issued warning to India not to send in troops interfer else China will take action.
But why so much hostility from whiteys, they have no god damned business hating Chinese …..
They’r the ones dissing it out ever since the Opium war ???
Bcos China refuse to turn over let Fukusisin gang rape ‘em. They still have fond memory of the tasty loots from Opium wars. Same story for Russia, what a delightful free looting sprees after Soviet collapse.

【同样,有个“幸运的国家”澳大利亚(音同盎司,长度和重量单位,双关讽刺无足轻重),这幸运取决于中国市场,但它歇斯底里胡说八道高调鼓吹“黄祸”论。
作为黑暗盟友的贵兵犬,他的麻烦是当骗子大叔(音同山姆大叔,此处双关讽刺)大声命令“跳起来”时,澳大利亚只能低声问“跳多高?我的主人。”】
哈哈,新西兰将是下一个。一位瑞典人告诉我,他们不关心选举,因为所有候选人都是由美国指派的。

美国可能会通过威胁和秘密曝光来控制各国领导人。正如你之前提到的,这些领导人并不是真的愚蠢的把自己的国家连到阴谋大叔(双关讽刺)的战争机器上来对付他们的面包筐(中国)的。
澳大利亚在抗议美国在越南战争的暴行后,曾被美国中央情报局带走。最近许多澳大利亚政客的双重公民身份被废止,副总理也是,可能是因为没有遵照反华剧本走。



TT says:
February 18, 2018 at 2:39 am GMT • 200 Words
@Sean
China has inflicted two clear military defeats on America, now they are trying for economic victory, aided by US economists.
China will be doomed if they trust US economists crap like Russian. They have the world best think tank as Lee Kuang Yew reckoned, China knew our country better than ourselves, they tell you what you truly need and they can give/take for a win win partnership hard to resist.
That’s they magical inroads to many countries the west are sorely losing with gunboat approach. Tillerson is beating chest and warning its backyards, don’t get skim by china to fill your stomach and build your roads that can be seen, come to Uncle Scam for another free old good rape you have forgotten.
China is charting a grand plan for true sustainable globalization starting from Obor & petrol yuan, albeit Chinese version. West believe in hunting like Mongols to get rich, Chinese long knew herding is the true way. But they don’t talk much to leak, unlike big mouth US elites compete to show off their ass to get funded. So everyone knew, Pentagon plot to destroyed 5 countries well before 911 false flag.

中国对美国造成了两次明显的军事打击,现在他们正试图在美国经济学家的帮助下取得经济上的胜利。
如果中国像俄罗斯这样相信美国经济学家,那就注定要失败了。他们拥有世界上最好的智囊团,李光耀认为,中国比我们自己更了解我们的国家,他们会告诉你真正需要什么,他们可以提供给双赢伙伴关系一个难以抗拒的价值。

这就是他们对许多国家的神奇入侵,西方炮舰的方式正在遭受严重惨败。蒂勒森敲打着胸膛,警告后院的家伙们,不要为了填饱肚子和修条路,就被中国剥削,来找诡计大叔,他会又一次免费提供你已经忘了的旧日强奸。
从一带一路和石油货币开始,中国正在为全球化制定一个真正的可持续宏伟计划,不过是中国版本的。西方相信像蒙古人一样的致富,中国人早就知道放牧是才是真正的致富方式。但他们不会夸夸其谈泄露秘密,不像大嘴巴的美国精英们为了竞争获得资金,炫耀自己的愚蠢。所以大家都知道,五角大楼在911之前阴谋摧毁了5个国家。

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