经济学人：被德国人侮辱的土耳其总统 [英国媒体]

Germansridicule Turkey’s president

德国人嘲笑土耳其总统

There once was a prickly sultan

曾经有个爱发脾气的苏丹

Whom Germans were fond of insultin’

让德国人喜欢侮辱


  
BEFORE reading a“poem” on German television on March 31st, Jan Böhmermann, a satirist ofquestionable tact, explained that he wanted to clarify the boundaries offree-speech law. He then declaimed a series of obviously fictional passages (inrhyming verse) depicting Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the president of Turkey,engrossed in a series of athletically challenging sexual activities withbarnyard animals. By the time the broadcaster took the video off its website aday later, it had caused a diplomatic fracas between Turkey and Germany.

在3月31日从德国电视上读到一首“诗”之前，一位机智得不像话的讽刺作家扬·博姆曼解释说，他想澄清言论自由的法律界限。然后，他朗诵了一系列明显虚构的段落（用诗歌押韵的形式） 描绘了土耳其总统雷杰普·塔伊普·埃尔多安全神贯注在一系列与农场动物竞赛般的性活动挑战中。等到该媒体在一天后将视频从网站删除时，它已经引发了一场德国土耳其之间的外交争吵。

The tension hadbeen a long time brewing. In 2007 the chancellor, Angela Merkel, snubbed MrErdogan by opposing Turkish membership of the European Union. As Mr Erdogan’srule became increasingly autocratic, Mrs Merkel often chided him for nobblingdissidents and the press. But in 2015 refugees started streaming into the EUvia Turkey. Suddenly Mrs Merkel needed Mr Erdogan’s help.

紧张气氛已经酝酿了很久。2007年，默克尔总理拒绝土耳其加入欧盟，冷落了埃尔多安。随着埃尔多安的统治变得越来越专制，默克尔经常批评他打压异见者和媒体。但是2015年难民开始通过土耳其流入欧盟。忽然间，默克尔开始需要埃尔多安的帮助了。

The result is thedeal that the EU, at Mrs Merkel’s prodding, made with Turkey last month. Inreturn for taking back migrants from Greece and cracking down onpeople-smugglers, Turkey gets billions in aid and new talks about joining theEU. Its citizens will also be allowed to travel visa-free in Europe. Mrs Merkelis now reluctant to criticise Mr Erdogan.

结果就是欧盟和土耳其的交易在默克尔的力促下，在上个月达成。作为对土耳其从希腊收回流动人口以及打击偷渡活动的回报，土耳其获得了数十亿欧元援助以及新一轮加入欧盟的磋商。土耳其公民也被允许免签前往欧洲旅游。默克尔现在并不愿批评埃尔多安。

Basking in its newimportance, Turkey has summoned the German ambassador for a dressing-down threetimes in recent weeks. One complaint was over a mildly satirical song about MrErdogan aired on German television on March 17th. At that point Mrs Merkeldeclared press freedom sacrosanct—prompting Mr Böhmermann to up the ante.

恃宠而骄的土耳其最近几个星期连续三次召见并训斥德国大使。其中一次是一首3月17日在德国电视上播出的委婉讽刺埃尔多安的歌曲。就在那时候默克尔宣称新闻自由神圣不可侵犯——这一表态驱使博姆曼先生加大了赌注。

On April 10thAnkara dispatched a formal diplomatic note, invoking an antiquated German lawagainst insulting foreign heads of state. In theory Mr Böhmermann could go toprison for three years, if the German government decides to prosecute. Amidhowls of outrage in Germany, Mrs Merkel has yet to rule this out. Mr Erdoganhas also filed a personal complaint on the same charges.

4月10日安卡拉发出了正式的外交照会，援引了古老的德国法律来反对侮辱外国元首。从理论上讲，如果德国政府决定起诉的话，博姆曼将可能入狱三年。在一片群情激愤的德国，默克尔仍未排除这种可能。在这个事件中，埃尔多安还同时提起了个人名义的控诉。

Mrs Merkel willneed all her diplomatic skill to contain this spat. The stakes are greater thanMr Erdogan’s fragile ego: freedom of speech, the refugee crisis and Syrianpolicy are all in the mix. Meanwhile, another blow-up is on the horizon. Thisspring the German Bundestag is set to vote on whether the mass killings ofArmenians by Turks a century ago constituted genocide. Expect Turkish tempersto fray.

默克尔需要用她全部的外交技巧来控制这次的争吵。这个风险比应对埃尔多安脆弱的自尊更大：言论自由，难民危机，叙利亚政策都混合其中。与此同时，另一个激烈争吵也是箭在弦上。今年春天，德国联邦议院将就一个世纪以前土耳其人制造的亚美尼亚大屠杀是否构成种族灭绝进行表决。


guest-noimeen Apr 14th, 02:19 
As a Turk myself, Iam appalled at the German government even thinking about suspending theirfreedom of speech and allowing a thug/tyrant/dictator wannabe who passeshimself as the leader of a NATO member. This guy and his thin skin has been amenace to Turkey and its neighbors, His recent visit to US didn't get him theattention he sought and he has been demeaning America and American people eversince. Now he has turned his attention to Germany and Europe.
It is time Germans and other told him to go fuck himself.
It is time for TURKS living under this regime to tell him to get lost and doeverything and anything by all means necessary remove him from office.
EVERYONE will be better off for it.
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作为一个土耳其人，我对于德国政府甚至考虑暂停言论自由，并接受一个把自己当做北约领导成员的暴徒/暴君/独裁者的拙劣模仿者感到震惊。这个家伙和他的敏感已经成为了对土耳其和它的邻居的威胁，他最近对美国的访问并没有获得他企图获得的关注，于是从那时起他就一直在贬损美国和美国人民。现在他已经把注意力转向了德国和欧洲。是时候让德国和其他国家告诉埃尔多安让他自己玩蛋去了。是时候让生活在这个制度下的土耳其人告诉他滚蛋并动用一切必要手段把他弄下台。这样每个人都将受益。

Wormcast in replyto jfcarli Apr 13th, 18:47
Q: "why doesan idiot from Germany have to make such poor taste jokes about a head of stateof another country?"
A: Because he'd bethrown in prison or killed if he were from Turkey.
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问：为什么一个德国的白痴非要用低级趣味的笑话嘲讽另外一个国家的元首呢？
答：因为如果他在土耳其这么干的话，就已经被投入监狱或者杀掉了。

Zoltán KoskovicsApr 13th, 18:57
Mr. Erdogan isquite ridiculous by nature, why he would want to make himself look even moreridiculous by picking a fight with a comic is quite beyond me. How full ofhimself must a politician be to think that he can salvage any of his dignity byengaging a comedian?
Problem is, that heis also dangerous. And Merkel does business with him. That makes her naive.Makes following her lead dangerous.
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埃尔多安天生就已经相当可笑了，为什么他还想通过挑起关于一个滑稽新闻的争吵来让自己显得更可笑一点，这真是让我难以置信。一个政治家得多么自以为是才会认为自己能够用一个喜剧演员来挽回尊严？
问题是，他也是危险的。而且默克尔与他有交易。这让她显得很幼稚。也让跟随她领导的行为变得危险。

emmafinney. Apr13th, 18:02
Usually onlydictatorships have laws against insulting leaders.
Maybe Germanyshould join the club of democratic nations and abolish this law.
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通常只有独裁国家才有反对侮辱领导人的法律。
或许德国应该加入民主国家的俱乐部，废除这项法律。

u39b Apr 13th,19:00
Böhmermann hasproduced some excellent satire. "Read Kant, cunt!" (in English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQkV5cTuoY
Böhmermann'sErdogen-critical poetry is also available online (in German):
https://vimeo.com/162427093
Context: this isthe original "moderate" satire (from Extra3) against Erdogan (mockingErdogan's repression of Turkish journalism among other things), which for whichErdogan twice summoned the German ambassador to demand deletion & punitiverepressive action (with English subtitles):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2e2yHjc_mc
The gist of it:after ridiculing Erdogan's diplomatic and legal action against satire,Böhmermann then stresses - press freedom, media free and satire are completelyfree in Europe, and above all legal restriction - defended in Germany byarticle 5 of the constitution. (Many other comic references.) Böhmermann thenstresses the caveat - smearing/ defamation is not permitted in Germany (and canbe countered in civil courts, with the possibility of obligation to pay damagesand withdraw the initial publication).
So... Böhmermanngoes on to read a poem called "defamation", to outline precisely whatisn't legal (in a civil sense) in Germany. The point of this: even currentdefamation laws cannot be a plausible restriction on satire (for they cannotretroactively remove content from online circulation, and nor can they imposepunitive consequences upon any individual). This is a declaration of freedomfrom Erdogan's media repression.
The text itselfthen, deliberately provocative and defamatory to prove this point of freedom,could be approximately translated thus:
"""
Defamation(Schmähkritik)
Dense, cowardly andstunted stiff,
Erdogan is thepresident,
His thing smellsbadly of Döner,
Even a swine fartsmells better,
He is a man thatbeats little girls,
And wearsprotective clothing while doing so.
More than anythingelse, he loves to fuck goats and repress minorities,
to kick Kurds andbeat up Christians,
and watch childpornography while doing so.
and even eveningsdon't mean sleep - they mean fellatio with a hundred sheep.
Yes, Erdogan is thefull monty: the president with a tiny penis.
Every Turk has gotthe message,
The dumb hog hasshrivelled balls,
From Ankara toIstanbul,
Everyone knows theman is gay,
Perverted, lousyand sexually aroused by animals
...
His head as emptyas his testes,
The star in everygangbang party,
Until the penisburns while pissing,
This is Erdogan,the Turkish president.
"""
https://vimeo.com/162427093
(note the Turkishsubtitles)
A fittingdeclaration of freedom. Erdogan: your despotic repression will hold no sway in Europe.
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博姆曼有一些绝好的讽刺。“读读康德，混蛋！”（用英语）
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQkV5cTuoY
博姆曼批判埃尔多安的诗在网上也有（德语）
https://vimeo.com/162427093
背景：这是原版的对埃尔多安“适度”的讽刺（从Extra3）（嘲弄埃尔多安在其他事情上对土耳其新闻业的打压），针对埃尔多安两次召见德国大使，要求删除以及惩罚性的镇压行动（英文字幕）
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2e2yHjc_mc
它的要点是：嘲笑了埃尔多安的外交和法律行动后，然后博姆曼强调欧洲的新闻自由、媒体自由和讽刺的绝对自由，高于一切法律限制——受德国宪法第五条保护。（很多其他漫画引用）博姆曼又强调污蔑和诽谤在德国并不被允许（而且可以在民事法庭被反击，有可能被追究赔偿损失并收回言论）
所以。。。博姆曼继续读了一首名为“诽谤”的诗，精确地勾勒出在德国不合法的边界（民事意义上）。它的要点是：即便是当前的诽谤法也不能作为对讽刺的貌似合理的限制（因为他们无法追溯删除网上流传的内容，也不能对任何个人强制进行惩罚）。这是一个摆脱埃尔多安压制媒体的声明。
至于文字本身，故意挑衅和诽谤证明了这个自由的观点，因此可大致翻译如下：
诽谤（Schmähkritik）
迟钝，懦弱，矮小的笨蛋，
埃尔多安是总统，
他闻起来有浓浓的烤肉味，
即便猪屁的味道闻起来也比他好，
他就是那种殴打小女孩的人，
打的时候还得穿上防护服，
最重要的是，他喜欢艹山羊、镇压少数族裔，
脚踢库尔德，拳打基督徒，
边打边看儿童色情作品。
甚至晚上对他来说也不意味着睡觉——意味着和一百只羊口交。
是的，埃尔多安光屁股：有着迷你阴茎的总统。
每个土耳其人都得到了消息，
这只笨猪有一对干瘪的球，
从安卡拉到伊斯坦布尔，
每个人都知道他是基佬，
变态、肮脏和兽交。。。
他的头和他的蛋一样空，
他是所有滥交派对的主角，
直到他的老二因为撒尿而烧伤，
这就是埃尔多安，土耳其的总统。
https://vimeo.com/162427093
（注意是土耳其语字幕）
一个关于自由的合适声明。埃尔多安：你的专制镇压不能影响欧洲分毫。

grammaskidney.inreply to CHBlackman Apr 13th, 19:52
You do realizethere is a difference between TE and the state?
If TE bans yourcomment, you can still open your own website for comments,
If the state bansyour words, you can't.
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你意识到了埃尔多安和土耳其是有差异的吗？
如果埃尔多安禁止你的意见，你仍然可以开一个自己的网站去表达你的意见，
但如果国家禁止你去做的话，你就没办法了。

Sean Citizen Apr14th, 10:56
There's an oldsaying that the cure for people who are offended too easily is that they shouldbe offended more often.
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有句老话说，治那些总觉得被冒犯的玻璃心最好的方法，就是更多地冒犯他们。

Garaboncias Apr14th, 17:54
It is not trueabout Erdogan raping that goat. It was concensual sex. The goat wanted it,too...
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说埃尔多安强奸山羊是不对的。这是两情相悦。山羊也想和他干。。。

GSuhr Apr 13th,17:55
Germany has a lotto recommend it, excellent cars, beer, etc., but it does not have a mellifluouslanguage. The argument can be made that anyone attempting poetry in Germanshould be locked up.
Even if the requestcomes from a poorly endowed zoophile like Erdogan.
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德国有很多可取之处，出色的汽车，啤酒和其他东西，但没有一个富于旋律性的语言。可以说德国任何企图作诗的人都应该被关起来。
即便作诗的请求是来自像埃尔多安这样天赋拙劣的恋兽癖。

u39b in reply to bampbsApr 13th, 18:03
Erdogan castratedthem. The Turkish police are better armed than the Turkish military - theTurkish police is manned by Erdogan sycophants, and it keeps an intrusivelyclose supervision of senior army officers (and journalists, etc). The Turkishmilitary have been reduced to singing the high notes in Erdogan's despoticchoir.
The institutions ofstate have been utterly corrupted - the courts were among the last hold outs.Now, the only thing that can bring down Erdogan is people power: (A) anoverwhelming electoral shift away from him (despite his control of media,locking up opponents and manipulation of events) or (B) massive street protestsand passive resistance to bring down Erdogan's state.
(B) won't occurunless Erdogan goes completely off the rails (e.g. a ban on alcohol orunilateral unconstitutional changes to the constitution). (A) almost happenedlast Summer - but Erdogan started a war against Turkey's Kurdish population inorder to cultivate fear and opportunistic manipulation of public sentiments.
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埃尔多安阉割了他们。土耳其警方有比军方更精良的装备——土耳其警方被埃尔多安的马屁精们所掌控，并对军队的高级军官（还有记者等）保持侵入式的严密监督。土耳其的军方已经不得不在埃尔多安的专制合唱团里唱高音了。
国家的机构已经完全损坏——法院是最后坚持着的。现在，唯一能让埃尔多安垮台的就是人民的力量：（A）用压倒性的选举离他而去（尽管他控制媒体，封杀对手，暗箱操作）或者（B）大规模街头抗议和消极抵抗推翻埃尔多安政府。
（B）不会发生除非埃尔多安做得太过分（如禁酒或者单方面违宪修改宪法）。
（A）去年夏天几乎发生了——但是埃尔多安发动了针对土耳其库尔德人的战争来培养恐惧、借机操纵民众情绪。

RemoKernizi Apr13th, 21:06
What is comedy inEurope is a tragedy in Turkey. Turkish jails (the only booming sector) are at200% of their capacity. The man thrives on publicity-good or bad.
Obscurity istantamount to death. The longest stretch of him shutting up has been 3-days andturks thought he must be dead!
If there is no war,mayhem anywhere, he will invent one. War on Kurds, Assad, Libyans, Armenians,Russians, the Opposition, the press, judiciary, Parallel state (an imaginaryenemy-in absence of real ones)...release refugees on to the EU...
He employs an armyof media scrutineers tasked with collecting articles that mention his name andfor laying charges for defamation (1870 outstanding cases in turkey alone).
He recentlydeclared his intention to jail every opposition member of parliament when theirlegal immunity from prosecution is removed (AKP-the ruling party- has just putsuch a proposition to the Parliament).
I wonder how manytimes he threatened this magazine for unfavourable articles? Only TE Editorscan tell I guess.
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欧洲的喜剧到了土耳其变成了悲剧。土耳其监狱（唯一蓬勃发展的部门）已经达到了它容量的200%。埃尔多安的成功来自于宣传——好或坏。
沉默无异于死亡。他最长的一次闭嘴持续了三天，土耳其人认为他一定是死了！
如果任何地方都没有战争和混乱，那他会创造一个。对库尔德人的战争，阿萨德，利比亚人，亚美尼亚人，俄罗斯人，反对党，媒体，司法，势均力敌的国家（假想敌-在没有真敌人的情况下）。。。向欧盟释放难民。。。
他雇佣了一大群媒体审查员，任务是专门收集提到他姓名的文章，根据对他的诽谤提出指控（仅在土耳其就有1870个未解决的案件）。
他最近宣布，他打算在反对党成员的免予起诉的权利被移除之后，把他们所有人都关到监狱里（AKP—土耳其执政党—已经把这个议题提交到了议会）。
我很好奇，他因为不喜欢的文章威胁了这个杂志多少次？我猜只有埃尔多安的编辑们才能知道吧。

Bampbs Apr 13th,17:05
Isn't it long pasttime for the Turkish army to stage a coup?
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距离上一次土耳其军队发动政变是不是已经很久了？

guest-noiaiew inreply to jfcarli Apr 13th, 18:57
No, this is notwhat happened with the cartoons about muslim religion. What happened is thatcartoonists exercised their right of free speech and muslim extremists killedthem for that. Those extremists take themselves and their ideas very seriousand think they were untouchable. But in our society ideas are not untouchableand no one is allowed to enforce their absolute ideas on others. That's whatthose cartoonists fought for. They did not want those people to enforce anymade-up untouchable religious thoughts onto other. Also I do not think thatthey feel untouchable - they knowingly take a very high risk, they don't do anyphysical harm, but risk their own lives.
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不，这不是因为漫画里有什么关于穆斯林信仰的东西。事实是漫画家行使了言论自由的权利，然后穆斯林极端分子把他们杀了。那些极端分子和他们的想法令人担忧，而且认为这是不可触犯的。但是在我们的社会中没什么思想是碰不得的，而且也没有人被允许把自己的观念强加给别人。这就是那些漫画家奋斗的目标。他们不希望那些人将虚构的不可触犯的宗教思想强加于他人。并且我不觉得这些漫画家觉得自己不容侵犯——他们的故意挑衅是冒着很大风险的，但并没有对别人产生身体伤害，反而他们自己冒着丧命的危险。

LiberalWorld Apr14th, 09:01
Its this sameTurkey that wants to join the EU so it can bully us all while the rest of theEU subsidizes them. Can we not simply build a wall between Turkey and EU?Turkey's behaviour suits the Middle East, they belong to that group ofwonderful nations.
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这就是那个想要加入欧盟的土耳其，也就是说它可以一边欺负我们一边得到我们其他欧洲国家的补贴。我们难道不能在土耳其和欧盟之间建一道墙吗？土耳其的行为符合中东地区的标准，它应该归于那群绝妙的国家之列。