124字的11世纪中国书信卖出3200万美元 [英国媒体]

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A Chinese film tycoon has splashed out nearly ￡22m on a 124-character letter that was penned nearly 1,000 years ago by a Song dynasty scholar.

中国电影大亨斥资近2200万英镑买下近1000年前由宋朝文人所写的一封124字的私信。

Wang Zhongjun, a self-made billionaire who some say is China’s answer to Shakespeare in Love producer Harvey Weinstein, purchased the letter at an auction in Beijing on Sunday, according to reports in the Chinese media.

据中国媒体报道，王中军，一个白手起家的亿万富翁，有人称他为中国的哈维韦恩斯坦（莎翁情史制片人），于上周日在北京的一个拍卖会上买下这封信。

Wang, the 55-year-old chairman of Huayi Brothers Media, one of China’s largest entertainment groups, reportedly paid 207 million yuan (￡21.9m/US$31.7m).

王，55岁，华艺兄弟传媒董事长，中国最大娱乐集团之一，据说花了2亿700万人民币（合2190万英镑 /3170万美刀）。

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The letter – thought to be the only surviving work by Song dynasty scholar and government official Zeng Gong – was written on 27 September 1080, according toChina Radio International. It is called Jushi Tie, which roughly translates as “a letter on happenings”.

据中国国际广播电台播报，这封家书被认为是宋朝学者和政府官员曾巩唯一存世的作品，写于1080年9月27日。它叫做《局事帖》，大概翻译成“关于发生的事情的信”。

In his brief dispatch – which is written in an archaic form of the Chinese language that makes its meaning hard to grasp for speakers today – the author addresses a close friend, thanking him for his unwavering support in his career.

他简短的的信件是以文言文写作的，这使说着现代汉语的人很难弄懂它的意思-作者是写给他的一位亲密的朋友，感谢他坚定地支持自己的事业。


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vr13vr 9h ago
I wish the article would tell us more about the ancient Chinese philosopher and his work than about the life of today's billionaire.

我希望这篇文章能告诉我们更多关于古代中国哲学家和他的作品的事，而不是关于今天的亿万富翁的生活。
 
Lafcadio1944  vr13vr 8h ago
Capitalism in China is just as ugly and destructive to society as it is in every other place. Capitalism ALWAYS creates inequity and those who become rich begin to throw their weight around bribing government to get what they want and robbing society of its most precious products.
"Capitalism with Chinese characteristics" looks a hell of a lot like capitalism everywhere else, full of vulgar greed and corruption.

在中国，资本主义就像在其他所有地方一样丑陋和破坏社会。资本主义总是带来不公，先富们开始仗势欺人，贿赂政府达到目的，掠夺这个社会最珍贵的物品。
“有中国特色的资本主义”，和其他地方的资本主义毫无二致，到处充斥着庸俗的贪婪和腐败。
 
vr13vr 9h ago
I take it, this is the only surviving original work written by the scholar personally. I hope there is other work of his that survived either in forms of copies or translations?

我猜这是这位学者仅存的原创私信了。我希望还能找到他的其他作品，不管形式是抄本还是译本。

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bovinescatology  vr13vr 8h ago
Can we be absolutely sure that a venerable ancestor of Fúlǎngxīsī·péigēn didn't write this valuable historical masterpiece, not the person named in the article?

我们是不是能绝对地肯定，弗朗西斯.培根的一位德高望重的祖先没有书写这份珍贵的历史巨作，他不是本文提到的那个人对吗？
（我太聪明了，居然猜到他说的是谁）
 
Thomas Harris 10h ago
WHAT is wrong here!

楼上什么鬼！
 
Oudeis1  Thomas Harris 9h ago
You had your caps-lock on for three keystrokes too many?
Is there a prize?

哥们你是不是把大写键按了很多次啊？
我猜对了有奖不？ 
 
Tony Buontempo 10h ago
This is outrageous.

太可恶了。

A piece of history such as this belongs to everyone, first and foremost the People of China. It should not be "owned' by a private individual.

像这样的历史文物属于每个人，首先最主要的是属于中国人民。它不应该被私人“占有”。 
 
Supermassive  Tony Buontempo 9h ago
In the words of Henry Jones, Jr., "That letter is an important artifact and it belongs in a museum".

小亨利.琼斯说过：“这封信是一件重要的文物，应该放在博物馆。”

Ankhar 12h ago
I wonder what are these red stamp marks.

我很好奇那些红图章是啥东东。

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quarrytone  Ankhar 11h ago
You assume official seals, the author and probably extra added from post to post as it travelled.
 
这应该是公章，包括作者的公章以及在流传过程中其他人加上去的印章。
 
CalvinLyn  Ankhar 11h ago
These red stamps are marked by former owners of the art piece, or by famous art critics after viewing the piece. You can think of them as facebook likes in the past. These marks validates the works authenticity and often can be used to trace the entire history of the work.
 
 这些红色的图章是艺术品的前一个所有者，或者是着名的艺术评论家看到作品后贴上去的。你可以把它比作以前脸书上的赞。这些标记证明了作品的真实性，常用来去追溯作品的整个历史。
 
Ankhar  CalvinLyn 11h ago
Famous art critics putting stamps on an antique art piece? Either you are mistaken or habits in China are really different - imagine reaction to some critic scribbling on Leonardo da Vinci's "Codex Leicester".
 
 着名的艺术评论家把邮票贴在古代艺术品上？要不就是你错了，要不就是中国的习惯真的不一样？想想一下一些评论家在莱昂纳多·达芬奇《莱斯特手稿》
 上涂鸦是什么样的反应。

bovinescatology 12h ago
It's a quite attractive document to look at, well laid out, short and to the point, conveying the writers feelings perfectly.
But the spelling is fucking atrocious.

这是一个引人注目的文献，谋篇布局很好、简短，完美的传递除了作者的感情。
但是拼写太残暴了。

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Voltaire21 13h ago
32 million is expensive but there is something exquisite and unique that a personal letter written a thousand years ago has survived. It's a mini time machine into humanity.
Having watched the very entertaining series of programs on Chinese history on the BBC by Michael Wood, the Song Dynasty seems to have been a very special time indeed.

3200万贼贵，但那可是幸存一千年幸存的私人信件，至美而无双。这相当于一个微型的人文探索时光机。
看了英国广播公司迈克尔伍德播的那些非常有趣中国历史系列节目，大宋皇朝似乎是一个非常特别的时代。 
 
HarbinTim 13h ago 
Found this on Baidu:

百度了一下:
 
题识：局事多暇。动履禔福。去远海诲之益。忽忽三载之久。跧处穷徼。日迷汨于吏职之冗。固岂有乐意耶。去受代之期。难幸密迩。而替人寂然未闻。亦旦夕望望。果能遂逃旷弛。实自贤者之力。夏秋之交。道出府下。因以致谢左右。庶竟万一。余冀顺序珍重。前即召擢。偶便专此上问。不宜。巩再拜。运勾奉议无党乡贤。二十七日。谨启
 
译文：近来事情（顺利），多有闲暇，无论做什么都感到安泰、幸福。(但)远离（您的身旁，不能）聆听教诲受益，倏忽间已有三年之久了。蜷居在穷苦的偏远地域，天天沉迷于繁冗琐碎的事务之中，原本怎么会有什么乐趣呢？距离来人替换的期限虽说很近，但接替的人（何时到此）却一点音信也没有；不过（我仍）朝夕悬望。如果能最终逃避荒废或耽误（职责的罪愆）那实在是仰仗贤明的您的鼎力相助（啊）！夏秋交替的时节，从您的府下经过，顺便向您表示谢忱，并盼望始终能得到您的一点点帮助，再者就是希望您（政事）顺遂，善自珍重。（记得）以前便蒙您引荐提拔，（今天）得便专门在此向您问候。余不赘述。曾巩再拜。发运司管勾进献言论无所阿附的乡贤。
 
A (very very bad translation) would be something like:

我的渣翻如下：
 
Recently things have been good. I've had a lot of leisure time but whatever I do I feel peaceful and lucky. Because I'm far away I cannot listen attentively to your wise words. These 3 years have gone quickly. Stuck in this remote and desolate place, every day I immerse myself in lots of trivial matters - how happy I was before! I will soon be replaced but I have no idea when he'll arrive; but I still look forward to his arrival every day. Whether I can escape or delay the punishment will depend on your benevolence and generous help. When Summer turns to Autumn, I will pass your official residence and express my gratitude. I also hope your political matters go well and you take care of yourself. I remember how you helped and patronised me before, today I want to send my warmest regards. I needn't say any more. Yours Etc. Zeng Gong Sent to the Honourable Gou Jinxian, who is wise beyond words.
（这个就不来回翻译了）

HarbinTim  HarbinTim 13h ago 
D'oh, too slow, someone's already posted a translation.

嗷，太慢了，有人已经贴过译文。
 
quarrytone  HarbinTim 12h ago 
Nice eloquent rendition.

漂亮动人的翻译。
 
g_reader_1  HarbinTim 12h ago 
The original text of nearly 1000 years old was stated to be only 124 characters long in the article. Your modern translation of the same text looks to be at least two to three times as long even though I have little knowledge in Chinese language. Is that progress?

将近1000岁老的的原文只有124个字。尽管我不懂汉语但同样内容你的现代翻译却看起来长了两三倍，那算进化了？

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15Squirrels 14h ago 
Documents like this are invaluable and can provide a wealth of information for historians and linguists. For one, the content, even if trivial at first sight, always opens up a window into life in a different era and can provide interesting details about persons and events, as well as links which were suspected, but not proven. Secondly, word usage, spelling, and letter forms can help document linguistic influences and changes, and in exciting cases prove that a word or expression was used earlier than previously believed or cast additional light on its etymology. Plus, the paper and the ink tell stories of their own about techniques used in a specific decade and area and about plant species and minerals existent at the time; scholars can tell if they were locally made or imported, and that also provides information on manufacturing and commerce.

此类文件非常宝贵，可为历史学家和语言学家提供丰富的信息。首先，那些内容，哪怕第一眼看去平平无奇，却总能打开一个进入不同时代生活的窗口，并能提供关于人们和事件的有趣细节，还有那些被猜想但未能证实的联系。其次，词的运用、拼写、和信的形式能帮助文档语言的影响和变化，还有某些精彩案例可以证明一个单词或短语的使用比之前所认定的时间还要早，或者点明了的它的词源。另外，纸张和墨水透露了他们自己的故事，那些在某特定的时间和区域中所应用的技术，以及那时存在的植物种类和矿物质；学者们据此能了解它们是本地制造的还是外来的，而那样又提供了制造业和商业信息。
 
For these reasons, it's a bit sad when rare documents, books, and works of art end up in private collections. Sure, you can get a fair bit of information from a photograph, but it's not the same as working with the original and being able to run tests. Some, which are sold directly rather than through an auction house, never even get described and photographed, so no one can study them even superficially. I find it greedy and selfish to squirrel away artifacts, even if you acquire them out of interest rather than as an investment, and especially when you're not going to be writing extensively about them and making them available to other scholars to research.

基于这些原因，那些罕见的文献、书籍和艺术品却最终被私人收藏，有点令人难过。当然，你可以从照片中获得一点点信息，但那跟参照原件并能做测试不是一回事。有些（文献），未经过拍卖行而直接出售，甚至从来没被描述和拍摄留底，所以没人能研究他们哪怕是粗浅一观。即使你并非用于投资，而是出于感兴趣而获得他们，我仍觉得贮藏文物真是贪婪又自私，尤其是当你不打算深入彻底的描述它们，并提供给其他学者做研究的时候。

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quarrytone  15Squirrels 14h ago
The content of the letter reminds you of those letters home tablets discovered at Hadrian's Wall (like, oh, and could you send a few pairs of socks, it get's cold in winter up here). How the gap between the ages is actually small.

这封信的内容让你想起了哈德良长城上发现的那些家书（诸如：哦，你可不可以寄几双袜子来，这里的冬天很冷）。年代之间的鸿沟其实很小。

15Squirrels  quarrytone 14h ago
I love this kind of thing (the more ridiculous, the better). It's unfortunate that so much of our own correspondence will be irretrievable, considering the wealth of detail afforded by electronic media.

我喜欢这种事情（越荒唐越好）。不幸的是，由于电子媒体的普及，我们现代人这么多的往来信件的丰富内容将无法保留到后世。

quarrytone  15Squirrels 14h ago
I'd never thought of that. Very good point.

我从未想过这事。很好的切入点。

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ThinkBike 15h ago
It looks like a fantastically preserved ancient document. I would liked to have read more background to this story I.E. when and where it was discovered; was it kept in China or elsewhere? etc etc.
Good luck to the new owner, though surely something as important and ancient as this, should have been procured by the Chinese government and kept for National posterity.
 
 这似乎是一件保存非常完好的古代文件。我希望了解更多有关它的背景信息，例如，它是何时以及在何处被发现的，当时是保存在中国还是其它地方？等等，等等
 祝它的新主人好运，当然一件如此重要且久远的文物，应该由中国政府获得，流传于后世。

Voltaire21  ThinkBike 13h ago
Seeing the history of the Chinese government maybe it's better that it's in private hands.
 
 鉴于中国政府的过往历史，或许留在私人手里更好
 
neodymiumflared 15h ago
Eleventh-century Chinese letter – just 124 characters long – sells for $32m

 一件11世纪的中国信函，仅有124字长短， 卖出了3200万美元
 
For $32m I would expect a secret ancient formula for eternal life, or at least a good cooking recipe :)

如果是花3200万美元，我希望获得能得长生的古老秘方，或者好的食谱也行

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Gretsch83 15h ago 
I've got a chinese whisper you can buy for a few million, if you like. 
Purple monkey dishwasher.

有小道消息称几百万就可以买下，如果你喜欢的话。
紫色猴子洗碗机
 
Densher  Gretsch83 15h ago 
Rolling fag leaves

滚动轴承树叶子 

Drewlove 15h ago 
The article could have been improved with less focus on the purchaser and more on the letter.

如果少说点买家而更多关注于这封信，本文会更好一些。 
 
JoeAnonymous 16h ago 
因以致谢左右，庶竟万一』-we've buried the treasure on the Spratly Islands.
夏 交 -Shhhhhhh don't tell noone!

因以致谢左右，庶竟万一』-我们把财宝埋在了南沙群岛.
夏 交 -嘘嘘嘘嘘嘘嘘，不要告诉别人!
  
Wilhelm Fakenameson 16h ago 
Wang Zhongjun, a self-made billionaire who some say is China’s answer to Shakespeare in Love producer Harvey Weinstein 
Not exactly the most on-the-nose way to describe Weinstein...

王中军，一个白手起家的百万富翁，人称中国的哈维·韦恩斯坦（莎翁情史制片人）
这可不是对韦恩斯坦的准确描述。。。

刘明洪 16h ago 
comments are more interesting than report itself, it's always true.

评论比新闻更有趣，一直都是如此。