杜特蒂的质问：菲律宾是如何失去黄岩岛的？ [菲律宾媒体]

Duterte asks Aquino,Trillanes:  How did PH lose Scarborough Shoal?

杜特蒂质问阿基诺、特里兰尼斯：菲律宾是如何失去黄岩岛的？

【日期】2016年5月18日



DAVAO CITY —Presumptive President-elect Rodrigo Duterte said Senator Antonio Trillanes IVcould have committed treason in his backchannel talks with Chinese officialsover the West Philippine sea claims, as he reiterated someone should answer forthe loss of the Scarborough Shoal to the Chinese.

杜特蒂声称参议院安东尼奥特里兰尼斯四世在与中国官员就 中国对“西菲律宾海”的过分要求秘密谈判中犯有叛国罪，他重申某些人必须为将黄岩岛丢给中国给个说法。

He said he was asking the Aquino government, which he referred to as the“past,” how it happened too.

关于这事是怎么发生的，他说他要质询阿基诺政府，他口中的那个前政府。

“I would like to know from anybody in the executive department of the pastadministration why we lost the Scarborough Shoal,” Duterte said in a pressbriefing Monday, “I can take all the insults, the muck and garbage that is partof the territory of politics, but itong ganitong nawalan tayo ng lupa (but tolose our land), or whatever is under the water is lupa (land), I can’t takeit,” Duterte said.

“我想要从前政府的任何人口中知道我们为什么失去了黄岩岛，我可以承受一切辱骂，那是政治的一部分，但是失去我们的领土，无论是水下还是陆地，我不能忍受。”杜特蒂在周一的新闻发布会上说。

He maintained that the contested territory “belongs to our exclusive economiczone (EEC).”

他主张争议区域“是属于我们的专属经济区”。

“Why is it now that we can no longer operate (there)?” Duterte, who had metforeign diplomats, including the Chinese Ambassador, at the Matina Enclaveshere Monday, said.

“为什么我们不能在那里作业了？，都有谁会见了包括中国大使在内的外国大使，”杜特蒂周一在Matina Enclaves俱乐部说。

Duterte recalled that Trillanes initiated secret, “back-channel” talks with theChinese government that could have only put in jeopardy the Philippine interestover the shoal.

杜特蒂回顾了安东尼奥·特里兰尼斯发起的与中国政府的秘密谈判，这使菲律宾的岛礁利益处于危险境地。

“Trillanes went (to China) there 16 times,” Duterte said, “After the 16thvisit, we have lost the Scarborough Shoal,” he added. “To me, it’s treason,” hesaid. “Somebody has to answer for that, it means livelihood for thePhilippines, for the Filipinos, our fishermen will be deprived,” he said.

杜特蒂说“安东尼奥·特里兰尼斯去了中国16次，在第16次出访后，我们失去了黄岩岛。对我来讲这是叛国。某些人必须给个说法，因为那是菲律宾国和菲律宾人的生计，我们的渔民将会失去生计。”

On May 6, Duterte’s partymates filed treason and espionage charges againstPresident Aquino and Trillanes for conducting “back-channel talks” with Chinathat allegedly “only advanced (the) interest of our Asian neighbor.”

5月6日，杜特蒂的助手以叛国罪和间谍罪起诉阿基诺总统和安东尼奥·特里兰尼斯，理由是在与中国的秘密谈判中“仅仅考虑了我们亚洲邻国的利益”。

The filing was announced two days later by Martin Diño, a member of Duterte’sparty, PDP-Laban, who said the charges were filed at the Ombudsman.

Martin Diño，杜特蒂的政党成员，在公布了这个起诉两天后，说这个起诉已经在申诉专员那里完成登记。



“Senator Trillanesmet with the Chinese 16 times, and he requested that the meeting (be) secret.In those meetings, Trillanes (mentioned) that the Philippines cannot enforcecoastal protection. And that made the Chinese take an aggressive [stance] andtake over our areas like Scarborough Shoal and Spratly Islands. That aloneconstitutes treason,” former sectoral Representative Ronald Adamat,who signed as one of the complainants, said.

“参议员安东尼奥·特里兰尼斯与中国人见了16次面，他要求秘密会见。在这些会面中，特里兰尼斯提到菲律宾不会动用海岸防卫队。这使得中国人采取侵略性的姿态，占据了我们的黄岩岛和南沙群岛。只这一点就构成了叛国罪。”前任部门代表Ronald Adamat说，他也是在原告文件上签名的人之一。

Duterte’s camp said they had basis for filing the charges as China committedaggression by occupying the country’s territories, an act tantamount to waginga war.

杜特蒂的阵营说他们已经为提起诉讼打好了基础，因为中国侵犯了他们的领土，这一行为相当于发起战争。

As for the charge of espionage, China allegedly had been “emboldened” by theinformation “gathered from” Trillanes.

至于间谍指控，中国因为从特里兰尼斯那里得来的信息而更敢于发起行动。

“We include the President (Aquino) because Trillanes could not have done thiswithout the order of the President. They breached international policy. Theydid it without coursing their efforts through the foreign affairs department,”Adamat said in a press briefing after the filing of the charges.

“我们在指控中包括了阿基诺总统是因为没有总统的命令特里兰尼斯不可能做这件事。” Adamat在起诉登记后的新闻发布会上说。


MANGLUCIO • 8 days ago
My goodness me. Getyour facts right Mr incoming President before you open your mouth again on thissubject. We have not lost Scarborough Shoals yet. It's still in The Hague forjudgement. And most likely we will win and if that happens, show your machomacho image and send all our navy ships to protect the Shoals from the Chinese.Pag nagawa mo iyon, believe na kami sa iyo.

我的天呀。在你开口讲话之前要实事求是我的继任总统先生。我们还没有失去黄岩岛。还在海牙法庭上等待判决呢。我们赢的可能性很大，如果我们赢了，那就显示你的男子汉气概，把我们所有的海军都派过去保护岛礁不被中国人占领。叽叽叽叽。

COCO MANGLUCIO • 8 days ago
our fishermen cant fish there anymore! are you crazy?

我们的渔民再也不能在那里打鱼了！你疯了吗？

Mang-Que Po COCO • 8 days ago
Do you think that the jetski master can open up thescarborough shoal for our fishermen?!?! Or, do you have a better suggestionthan filing a case at UN?!?! Let us wait and see...

你认为那个开水上摩托的家伙（译注：杜特蒂曾说开摩托艇去与中国拼命）能够为我们的渔民打开黄岩岛之路？，你有比在联合国起诉更好的建议吗？说出来我们听听。

COCO Mang-Que Po • 8 days ago
in point the topic here is why under penoys admin didthe chinese claimed the shoal!

文中的重点是为什么在阿基诺统治下中国人宣称了岛礁（所有权）。

Mang-Que Po COCO • 8 days ago
What?!?! Are you kidding me? Pinanganak ka lang baduring the term of Pnoy?!?!

什么！？你在开玩笑嘛？在阿基诺任期内叽叽叽叽？！

tadasolo MANGLUCIO • 8 hours ago
Well the reality the Chinese one day in the past drewa 9 dash line which includes the Scarborugh and said this is Chinese territory.However if we win in the international court it would be hard for the Chineseto ignore it when they would be using the international convention to protecttheir interest in the future.

事实是中国人在过去的某一天画了一条9段线，把黄岩岛包括了进去，说是中国的领土。但是如果我们在国际法庭上赢了，当他们以后再使用国际法保护他的利益时忽视这件事就会变得困难。

Unggoy MANGLUCIO • 8 days ago
thats even worse, they already have infrastructuresthere and its not yet theirs. Dude as if the PH have the military power toscrub cheeks with China, we always rely on USA and their eternal patrol in thedisputed area, not making unnecessary move that will cause a war.

甚至更糟，他们已经在那里建立了基础设施。老兄好像菲律宾有足够的军事力量对付中国一样。我们一直依靠美国和美国人会在争议地区永远巡逻，不做不必要的引起战争的行动。

tikbalang MANGLUCIO • 8 days ago
.oras na para malaman ng publiko ang pinagkasunduanni trililing/pnot at china para makapaghanda na si duterte sa susunod nahakbang
.
nakakapagtaka lang kahit sa senado nag walkout si trililing

叽叽叽叽叽叽叽叽。

ben MANGLUCIO • 8 days ago
If the Philippines win the case but China ignore it,What will you do? Go to war with China?

如果菲律宾赢了官司但是中国置之不理，你怎么办？和中国开战吗？

Catrina "Tiriring" ben • 8 days ago
Dudede's solution (from his previous statements): Iwill go there on my own with a jetski, bringing along with me a flag and a poleand once I disembark, I will plant the flag on the runway and tell the Chineseauthorities, ‘Kill me,'”
Hi-hi-hi....funny talaga, pero kumita yan sa takilya.

杜特蒂的解决方案就是（从他以前的声明来看）：我要自己开着摩托艇去那里，带着旗子和旗杆登上岛礁，插上旗子然后告诉中国人，“杀了我吧”。

Mang-Que Po ben • 8 days ago
You answer your question... Oh, how about riding ajetski and plant the Philippines flag at scarborough shoal... Idiot!!!

你自己说说看…到底应该怎么骑着水上摩托去岛礁上插上菲律宾国旗…纯傻帽！！！

farero • 8 days ago
i hope peoplerealize that President -elect Duterte just conceded that we lost ScarboroughShoal, He has not even began bilateral negotiation with the Chinese side and heis already giving up Philippine territory. What he should be asking is for theChinese to get out of our sovereign waters and go get a jetski to plant thePhilippine flag.

我希望人们意识到，他甚至还没有和中国开始双边谈判，我们的当选总统杜特蒂就承认我们失去了黄岩岛， 他已经放弃了菲律宾的领土。他应该让中国滚出我们的海域，并且骑上摩托艇去插菲律宾的国旗。

Xie Jin farero • 8 days ago
for your information he already talked to chineseofficials its in the news and the summary of talks is good with china helpphilipine will prosper

供你参考，有新闻表明他已经对中国官方说了，总的来讲就是让中国帮助菲律宾实现繁荣。

Blow TheBomb farero • 8 days ago
Lmao you took the jetski thing literally? you have ashallow mind dude

你们按字面意思理解摩托艇的事？你们这些家伙很肤浅。

TheVi11ain Blow TheBomb • 8 days ago
Lol. You took the last sentence seriously? It seemsto me you're the one who has a shallow mind here.

大笑。你是认真的吗？看起来你才是那个肤浅的家伙。

RHumabon • 8 days ago
“His(President-elect Rodrigo Duterte's) statement is very dangerous because it willweaken our claim. What is important here is we stand firm that we have a claimthere. Physically we have not lost it, the records will bear me out. Seniordefense officials have been placed on record declaring that we have not lost Scarborough.Do not take it from me, do not take my word for it but take the word of allsecurity officials of the country,” Senator Antonio Trillanes IV said.
(Source:http://wwwDOTphilstarDOTcom/headlines/2016/05/17/1584026/duterte-may-face-impeachment-over-scarborough-claim.. . Updated May 17, 2016 12 AM )
Suggestion:National Security Officials, with the approval of President Benigno S. AquinoIII, to hold a briefing for President-elect Rodrigo Duterte and Vice PresidentLeni Robredo on the status of the Philippine Claim to Islands in the WestPhilippine Sea.

“他的声明是非常危险的，因为那将弱化我们的声明。关键是我们要站稳我们的立场。事实上我们没有失去黄岩岛，记录将会支持我的观点。高级国防官员的记录表明我们没有失去黄岩岛。不相信我的话，不相信我的担保，但是要相信这个国家所有国防官员的保证。” 参议员安东尼奥·特里兰尼斯四世说。
建议：阿基诺三世任命的国家安全官员去举行一个对当选总统杜特蒂和副总统Leni Robredo关于西菲律宾海岛屿菲律宾声明的辩护会。

betchay1 • 8 days ago
Statement of Sen.Antonio "Sonny" Trillanes IV RE: treason charge of Duterte inrelation to the Scarborough Shoal:
"It isprimarily a misdirection. Duterte knows that my message struck him at the heartof his fraudulent image so he is trying to smear my name as the messenger. Italso showed his gross ignorance about the issue. Scarborough or Panatag Shoalis different from the Spratlys or Kalayaan Island Group. They are hundreds ofmiles apart. I have been appointed by PNoy as a backchannel negotiator todeescalate the tense situation in Panatag back in 2012. I was able toaccomplish my mission, within the authority given to me by the President andwithout compromising our territorial claim, which is now the main subject ofour Arbitration case. Just to inform Mayor Duterte, there is no reclamation inPanatag and I have our National Security officials on record during two Senatehearings that we have not lost Panatag contrary to some unfounded mediareports. Moreover, I don't have anything to do with the reclamation by China ofsome islands in the Spratlys because it came long after I have finished my jobin the Scarborough standoff. On the contrary, I have been at the forefront ofthe AFP modernization and the immediate implementation of the EDCA so we couldfind some balance in the security situation in the West Philippine Sea."

安东尼奥·“小宝贝”·特里兰尼斯四世回复声明：杜特蒂关于黄岩岛的叛国指控：
“首要是误导。”杜特蒂知道我的信息击中了他欺骗性的虚假景象的心脏，所以他试图污蔑我的名声。这也显示了他关于事件的粗鲁无知。黄岩岛或帕纳塔格礁与南沙或自由岛群是不同的。他们相距数百英里。我已经指出秘密谈判逐步降低了黄岩岛的紧张形势，回到2012年的情况。我完成了我的使命，在总统授权期内，并且没有在领土声明上妥协，这也是我们的仲裁案的主要目的。仅仅提醒杜特蒂市长，在黄岩岛没有填海造陆。在两次参议院听证会上我们的国家安全官员记录在案，我们没有失去黄岩岛，与一些没有依据的媒体报道的相反。而且，我与中国在南沙群岛上的填岛没有任何关系因为那是我完成黄岩岛僵局这一工作之后的事。相反，我一直站在菲律宾空军现代化和新版美菲防务合作协议的立即执行的前列，这样我们可以使西菲律宾海安全形势平衡一些。

I dont care egay_d_tagay • 8 days ago
Wow, a LOSER is in the house.

喔，一个失败者登堂入室了。

raindrops egay_d_tagay • 8 days ago
Pinoy will be the 3rd president to live in jail.Trillanes will get life sentence.

阿基诺三将是第三个进监狱的总统。特里兰尼斯将会是无期徒刑。

Joseph egay_d_tagay • 8 days ago
After 16 times negotiations and failure why notsingle coast guard or navy challenge china??? Who is then to blame???

16次谈判失败之后为什么不派海岸警备会海军挑战中国？？？怪谁？

China Warrior Joseph • 8 days ago
Challenge with what? A canoe against a warship?

用什么挑战？独木舟对抗战舰？

tagahuron China Warrior • 8 days ago
Jetski

用摩托艇。

I dont care China Warrior • 8 days ago
With Chinese junks

用中国产的舢板。

Apathy China Warrior • 8 days ago
Stop belittling canoes as you Chinese people lovedcanoes as well.

不要小瞧独木舟，因为你们中国人也喜欢独木舟。

Apathy voltaire • 8 days ago
I am not against fighting for our right. I am onlyagainst fighting for the sheer heck of fighting, especially when there areother options available that have higher chances of succeeding than suicide.
If that suicide is guaranteed to succeed, go ahead.Do it.
If not, what's the point?

我不反对为我们的权力而战。我只是反对必死之战，特别是在还有其他比自杀成功机会更高的选项时。
如果自杀能够保证成功，那就去吧。如果不能，为什么要这样做？

Apathy voltaire • 8 days ago
That principle youhold dearly only applies when you have nothing to lose and more to gain.Fighting without a clear strategy, fighting even though that outcome will leadto a Philippines without military defenses that can be used as support in timesof calamity.
Besides, you talkas if military confrontation is the only kind of fight there is. Our people arebravely fighting for us at the international tribunal. That's a fight we mustall pray for and be supportive of.

你的原则只是在只会赢不会输时可以采用。没有清晰战略的战斗，即使战斗将摧毁菲律宾的在灾难时期可以支持我们的军队。
除此之外，你说的好像军事斗争是唯一的一种战斗。我们的人民在国际法庭上战斗时是非常勇敢的。那才是我们应该全力祈祷并且支持的战斗。

voltaire Apathy • 8 days ago
ok pray till youdrop dead.

好吧，那就祈祷到死吧。

Apathy voltaire • 8 days ago
ROFL.
I don't actuallycare what people call me, even if they call me not deserving to be a Filipinoif it saves the country more than armed confrontation could.
Again, armedconfrontation is not the only way to fight.

笑得我在地上打滚。
我不在乎人们怎么叫我，即使他们说我不配做菲律宾人。如果可以拯救这个国家而不是武装冲突。
再说一次，武装冲突不是唯一的战斗。

voltaire Apathy • 8 days ago
see you justexposed who and what you are. i am sure you dont even sing as well ourphilippines national anthem "sa manlulupig di ka pasisiil....ang mamatayng dahil sa yo" you are not a filipino.

看看你已经暴露了你是什么。我肯定你甚至唱不好我们的菲律宾国歌“叽叽叽叽”

Apathy voltaire • 8 days ago
Going through yourroute would ensure the destruction of the Philippine Economy as well as ourSovereignty.

照你的路走下去一定会毁了我们的经济和国家主权。

voltaire Apathy • 8 days ago
and going throughyour root will ensure loss of our sovereignity and makes us filipino extinct.

那要是按照你的路走下去我们一定会失去主权并且导致我们菲律宾人灭绝。

Apathy voltaire • 8 days ago
Going through myroute ensures minimal to zero loss of lives, and a higher chance atgaining/retaining our territory as well as the respect of the internationalcommunity.

按照我的路走下去可以零伤亡，并且很高的几率收回失去的领土和国际法的尊重。

voltaire Apathy • 8 days ago
the end result ofyour mentality....disaster!

楼上，你这种心态的结局必然是灾难性的！

gusm • 8 days ago
Nobody knows exactlywhat went on with the exchanges between Trillianes and China but China did notneed Trillianes to know that this country has no capability to defend herinterests within her EEZ. That much is obvious to any country in the world.

没人确切知道特里兰尼斯和中国之间做了什么交易，但是中国不需要特里兰尼斯，他知道这个国家没有能力保护自己专属经济区内的利益。全世界都知道。

Atahualpa gusm • 7 days ago
That's obvious! only idiots will think this"intel" about Poor coastal protection "given by Trillanes"encouraged the Chinese to take over the shoal, that's absolutely Stupid!!

显而易见！只有傻子才会认为是特里兰尼斯怂恿了中国占领岛礁，那真是蠢到家了！！

tintin Kalbolaryo • 8 days ago
correct and Arroyo will be given "Pardon"under Duterte's government.

阿罗约应该被杜特蒂政府特赦。

Simple_Comment • 8 days ago
Unexpected questionfrom Duterte being the incoming commander-in-chief. Why Filipinos lose theisland from the Chinese? Simple answer, China took it by force. BesidesPhilippines hasn't give up hope getting back the island and still fighting tothe last recourse, UNCLOS, etc.. It will be a great accomplishment for Duterteif he can ask China to return it to the Philippines in exchange ofmutual-relationship. If he can do it then he is the man.

走马上任的杜特蒂问了个意想不到的问题。为什么菲律宾失去黄岩岛？答案很简单，中国用武力抢走的。除非菲律宾不放弃希望，最后的希望是坚持不懈用联合国海洋法抗争。如果他能够让中国把岛屿还给菲律宾来交换双边关系（的改善）那真是伟大的成就。如果他能做到那他就是个男人。

Martee Simple_Comment • 8 days ago
China never took it by force? At no point where anyofficial representative of the Philippines on the island. No AFP or Navy or anyPhilippines Coast Guard present. If they were present, China would have turnedaround immediately and leave. Shame on Aquino administration for not protectingour Nation. And then Shame on Aquino and Trillanes for purpose of mediadistraction away from China problem, by creating a 2 year long Senate Binayhearing.

中国用武力夺走的？菲律宾在岛上完全没有官方存在。没有空军没有海军甚至没有海岸警备队出现。如果它们出现，中国就会立刻调头离开。为阿基诺没有保护我们的国家感到羞耻，为阿基诺和特里兰尼斯以误导媒体为目的用长达两年的参议院听证逃避中国问题感到羞耻。

wag_anga Martee • 8 days ago
how do you expect to protect those islands without aship? blame the past administrations for not upgrading the navy. When Pnoybought second hand ships it's already too late.

没有军舰你打算怎么保护这些岛屿？责备以前的政府不会提高海军。当阿基诺购买二手军舰时已经晚了。

Jego Silang Simple_Comment • 8 days ago
you are trying to be polite, but clearly is not anunexpected question, as it is just the usual idiotic growls from idiot30.

很显然那不是什么意想不到的问题，因为那仅仅是从一个白痴嘴里常常能够听到的愚蠢的咆哮。

RobRoyston • 8 days ago
duterte isconditioning the minds of the philippinos that theyve already lost scarborough,that the fight has already been lost. this is to set up the next stage of hisplan to sell out the west philippine sea for the cheap price of a couple ofrailway systems.
people have beenblindsided by their fanatic loyalty to duterte whos been exploiting their angeragainst aquino.
i feel so sorry forthe philippines, there was soo much promise. now all that optimism is fastdissipating. good luck to your future as a chinese puppet state. say hello toyour new masters in that manilla district called binondo.

杜特蒂改变了菲律宾人的想法，他们已经失去了黄岩岛，这场战斗已经输了。他的下一步计划就是用两条铁路的便宜价格卖掉西菲律宾海。
人们盲目狂热的效忠杜特蒂，杜特蒂利用了人们对阿基诺的愤怒。
我为菲律宾感到遗憾，这里有太多的承诺。现在，那些乐观在迅速消退。作为中国手中的傀儡国家，祝你在未来好运。向你们马尼拉行政区的叫做杜特蒂的新主人打个招呼。

cogito728sum • 8 days ago
Just a briefreminder to Digong. You haven't been proclaimed yet so take it easy. You woulddo well to be reminded of what Sen. Horace Maynard told Lincoln: "BewareMr. (in your case still presumptive) President and do not go too fast. There isdanger ahead." You might trip and we'll sorely miss the thrill of yourBANG! BANG! BANG! and KILL, KILL, KILL, presidency, the much anticipated newform of entertainment courtesy of the dutertards. Merci!

仅仅是个简报，还没有正式的公告，别紧张。你还记得Sen Horace Maynard对林肯说了什么吗：“注意总统先生，别跑的太快，小心危险就在前方。”你可能会跌倒，我们会怀念你喊打喊杀的日子，可以预计，杜特蒂你将会为我们提供很多新的娱乐形式，谢谢！

Allen Douglas cogito728sum • 8 days ago
He knows the THREAT for his life is there. And thisTHREAT naturally comes from BIG TIME DRUG SYNDICATES and from your THIEVINGuncle POLITICIANS who are at risk of going straight to JAIL because of theirinvolvement in various scams like the DAP/PDAF SCAM.
Yon na kanyang pananghalian at pang-almusal when hewas still mayor. Ngayon ba sya matatakot?

他知道对他生命的威胁就在那里。威胁自然是来自于贩毒团伙和那些政治小偷，他们都有被直接扔进监狱的危险，因为他们都卷入了像DAP/PDAF骗局那样各种各样的诈骗案。

Francisco C. de Asis • 8 days ago
Be careful Dutertewith that case against Aquino. That case may not prosper, but don't besurprised, if there's revenge much later on. There maybe smiles for now andbeing deferential in public, but your crazy fans, Duterte, better sober up.There's already a list ready for the first time Duterte exceeds his authority.

杜特蒂，对于告阿基诺的案子你要小心了。那个案子可能不会成功，但是不要惊讶，如果要报仇还有很长的路要走。现在最好保持微笑，在公共场合表示顺从，但是你的疯狂的粉丝最好冷静点。杜特蒂已经为第一次越权准备好清单了。

tintin Francisco C. de Asis • 8 days ago
indeed Duterte should not be complacent in His Powerit may backfires,He should remember He is a Minority President.He was mandatedby the People to serve the People not the people will serve Him.

的确，杜特蒂不应该对他的权力自鸣得意，那会适得其反。他应该时刻牢记他是个少数派总统。是人民授权他为人民服务，不是人民为他服务。