中国百万人口以上城市已经突破100 [英国媒体]

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China now has more than 100 cities of over 1 million residents a number that is likely to double in the next decade.

中国现在有100多个100多万人的城市，并在下个十年有可能翻倍.

According to the Demographia research group the world’s most populous country boasts 102 cities bigger than 1 million people many of which are little known outside the country – or even within its borders.

根据人口统计研究公司的数据，中国人口超百万的城市已经有102个，其中很多城市在海外不为人所知，甚至在国内都不是很有名。

Quanzhou for example on the south-east coast of China was one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world a millennium ago when it served as a hub for traders from across Asia and the Middle East. It is now home to more than 7 million people nearly 800000 more than Madrid.

例如东南沿海的城市泉州，在1000年前是纵贯亚洲和中东的商贸枢纽，当时就是世界性的大都市之一。泉州现在有700多万人，比马德里还要多上80多万人。

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But while Madrid is a cultural powerhouse and the centre of Spanish politics Quanzhou with its 1000-year-old mosque and charming cafes is rarely discussed even within Chinese media whereas Beijing Shanghai and Hong Kong continue to get most of the headlines.

但是当马德里成为文化名城和西班牙政治中心时，拥有千年清真寺和迷人咖啡馆的泉州在中国媒体上都鲜少被提及，而北京，上海和香港继续成为媒体头条。

Outside China meanwhile few will even have heard of Kaifeng a former imperial capital that was once a terminus on the Silk Road or Weihai both cities bigger than Liverpool (estimated population of urban area 880000).

而在中国以外，很少有人听说过开封或威海的名字，前者曾是一个朝代的首都，也曾是丝绸之路的终点。这两个城市都比利物浦大。（城区人口约880000）

The scale of China’s urban ambitions is staggering: it now has 119 cities bigger than Liverpool. By 2025 according to a report by the McKinsey Global Institute that number is predicted to have more than doubled.

 中国对城市化有着令人难以置信追求，她现在有119个比利物浦还大的城市。根据McKinsey世界研究所的报告称，在2025年时这个数字还会增加一倍以上。

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One reason is that the government is actively encouraging rural residents to urbanise. China aims to have 60% of its people living in cities by 2020 up from 56.1% currently and the World Bankestimates a billion people – or 70% of the country’s population – will be living in cities by 2030.

一个原因是政府积极鼓励农村人进城。中国计划到2020年将城市居民占比从现在的56.1%增加到60%。世界银行估计到2030年将有10亿人（70%中国人口）居住在城市里。

Thousands of government officials have campaigned across the country to convince farmers to move to newly built urban districts turning centuries-old villages into ghost towns.

数以千计的政府官员被派到乡下去说服当地农民迁居到新建城区，从而使百年的村庄沦为废墟。

Another factor? China’s centre is moving west. Guiyang for example topped a few lists of the best-performing Chinese city last year as the once-sleepy capital of the country’s poorest province saw a boom in cloud computer servers and telecommunications with e-commerce giant Alibaba a major investor.

其他因素？中国的中心在向西移动。以贵阳为例，中国最贫穷省份的省会，去年居然进入了中国最出色的城市的榜单。云服务和电信业繁荣发展，阿里巴巴是其主要的投资者。


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shanshuitianqi
In the case of Trump the first 1% person ever to get elected and fill the White House with actually lobby folk it was the credulous uneducated who voted him in the educated saw through his snake oil which of course to the bright is nakedly transparent. Bit of a stretch to claim it is the other way round. 

以川普为例，当选的永远是那1%富人，白宫里塞满了游说团体，都是那些容易受骗的乡巴佬投票给他的，而那些受过教育的人早就看穿了川普的把戏。如果你说情况是相反的，那么就有点夸大了。

shanshuitianqi
When you talk of subtlety you seem to be describing the West in China the state line is more blunt so doesn't really work on the brightest. Propaganda is universal in all states. Authoritarian states are more blunt and obvious democratic states have the appearance of liberation yet still it is well documented how the population is controlled though subtle mind control. Don't question the meaning of life just work and buy and mistake the imposed and bought reality of the ruling elite for normal existence. The people are so very confused they even voted a 1% member as their saviour who is now cementing that 1%'s rule at the people and environment's expense. You should visit China and learn how nuanced wry and subtle the educated can be. Sometimes they seem far less credulous precisely because they have an authoritarian one party state.

在你谈论“微妙”这个东西时，似乎是在描述西方，在中国政治路线更生硬，所以对那些最聪明的人不起作用。政府宣传在所有国家都是一样的，独裁国家更呆板和显眼，民主国家显得自由解放但仍然能看出政府是如何通过巧妙的心理控制掌握人民的。不要怀疑生活的意义，只要工作，购物，将统治精英强加的现实当做正常的。人民是如此的糊涂，他们甚至投票给了顶层1%的成员作为他们的拯救者，而这1%的人正在强化自己的统治，以人民和环境为代价。你应该去趟中国，学习受过教育的人应该怎样微妙的嘲弄和讽刺。严格的说，他们有些时候看起来远没有那么轻信，这是因为他们有一个独裁的一党制国家。

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shanshuitianqi
Not the people I talk to. There has been a big change in the past year. One year ago there was far more liking for democracy Duerte Brexit and Trump has simply brought home to them perhaps 1/3rd of the Chinese population is very rustic and basically educated so might not be capable of trust with such imported decisions if even if the long developed West democracy can go so very wrong. They are asking big questions about how you could prevent such calamities. Very few believe what the press says on the matter it tends to be the uneducated who swallow the party line. 

和我聊过的人可不是这样说的。去年发生了很大的变化。一年前对民主政治来说，有很多类似杜特尔特、脱欧，更何况发展很久臻至成熟的西方民主政治出现这么多错误。他们在反问“你怎样才能避免这样的不幸发生？”几乎没人相信媒体所说的“未受过教育的人们在忍受政党路线”这样的事。

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lungmike
When I first met my wife she described her home city Dalian as a small city of 6 million inhabitants. As you say everything is relative. 

我第一次遇到我老婆时她和我说她的家乡大连是个有六百万人口的小城市，如前人所说万事万物都是相对的呢。

lungmike
If you want to see the sun come to sunny Dalian. For most of the winter there are cloudless blue skies just as right now with 10 km visibility. The rest of the year is not bad either. 

来看看阳光明媚的大连吧，这里的冬天大部分时候都是一望无际的湛蓝天空，一年的其它时候也都很不错的。

happystory
Actually a little known fact is that Sushi originates in South East Asia later it's being introduced in China and after that it's being introduced in Japan from China. 

鲜为人知的事实是寿司源于东南亚，由东南亚传入中国再经中国传入日本地。

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happystory
Really impressive. It's amazing to think what will China look like when it fully develops. In 30 to 40 years from now when their purchasing power rises and their middle class becomes the majority. As many economists have pointed out their clusters of cities aka mega regions will drive their economy and innovation. It has been estimated that within couple of decades the Chinese economy will surpass the EU and US combined. It's scary in a way to think there will be a nation 4 times more powerful than the US is today.. The 21st century will be the century of unxs small countries should form unxs otherwise they stand no chance against beasts like China and India. And by small countries i mean countries like Germany and UK countries with populations of just one Chinese province. Brexit might sound like a good idea to some people now but in a couple of decades i suspect they will regretting it. 

真是令人印象深刻。实在想不到当中国充分发展了，它会是什么样子。从现在开始30到40年后，当他们的购买力上升，他们的中产阶级成为主体，正如很多经济学家指出的，他们的城市群或者说大城区将主导他们的经济和创新。可以预期的是，在几十年内，中国的经济会超过欧洲和美国之和。这么一想真是可怕，将会有一个国家比现在美国强大4倍多。21世纪将会是国家联合体的世纪。小国应该组成国家联合体，否则他们在中国和印度这样的野兽面前将没有任何机会。所谓小国，我的意思是像德国和联合王国这样人口只相当中国的一个省的国家。英国退欧可能现在听上去对一些人来说是个好主意，但在几十年后，我猜他们会后悔的

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Lily Froman
China's workforce has already stopped growing. India 's rate of growth has also dramatically slowed with several southern states at zero.
The population issue is looking far better than what we would have imagine in 2005...
However CO2 levels are at 408.. so that is the number one tipping point now. 

中国的劳动大军早就停止了增长。印度的劳动者增长率也可见的减少，有些南部地区甚至出现了0增长。
关于人口问题看起来要比我们2005年想象的情况要好很多········
然而现在二氧化碳等级已经达到了408水平因此这才现在的头等大事。

Kamatron
"Why does it care so much about Scottish independence for example." Are you saying that with a straight face? Now i wonder why a British publication would care about Scottish independence? hmm... 

“举例说明它为什么如此关心苏格兰的独立。”你是认真的吗？英国媒体难道不应该关心苏格兰独立与否？

Gantsara
Why does it care so much about Scottish independence for example. China is much bigger news and will impact people more than many of the parochial little UK concerns we see given so much coverage day to day. 

举例说明它为什么如此关心苏格兰的独立。相比于每天报道英国这种小地方的关切，还不如多报道一下中国呢，中国所造成的影响更大，更值得报道。

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Birkenhead90210
Perhaps it is you who needs to learn more about China. Try this article for starters: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/14/china-historic-sites-survey More recently an edition of Click (the BBC News channel Tech programme) covered a project in Shanghai to digitally preserve an ancient district which is rapidly being demolished and replaced with medium-rise identikit blocks. 

Birkenhead90210
也许恰恰是你需要更多的去了解中国。去看看这篇文章吧： https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/14/china-historic-sites-survey。最近Click（BBC新闻科技频道）的一期节目中报道了一个在上海的项目，是关于数字化保护一个被很快拆毁并由中高层拼图块取代的古代街道。

MrWangincanada
A powerful central government sometimes can make good things happen like the article mentioned that the focus of developments were moving from coastal cities to poorer interior areas. The transition of development from coastal to interior is caused by many reasons but government policy plays an important role.

MrWangincanada
一个强有力的中央政府有时能使得好事发生，就像文中提到的那样，对发展的关注从沿岸城市转移到更不发达的内陆。发展从沿海到内陆的转移是由很多原因引起的，但政府的政策无疑扮演了很重要的角色。

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Birkenhead90210
The Chinese cities are cleaner better planned have more efficient transportation and seem more liveable than the West Midlands. Cleaner yes. Better planned? Well unlike most old UK cities they (the new bits at least) have been planned - albeit there doesn't seem to be much in the way of a strategy. Just build like crazy... Transportation... parts of it are efficient yes - the high speed rail lixs you mention are amazing (but you do need to book a trip at least 3 days in advance - more around Chinese New Year) or you'll end up on their roads which - other than the motorway network - are largely appalling. I've travelled down more than one road in Zhengzhou which better resemble a roller-coaster than an actual thoroughfare... Even the motorway network which at least isn't massively pot-holed is subject to truly biblical traffic jams - not helped by the chaotic driving which is completely out of control.

中国城市更加干净，规划更好，交通工具更有效率，似乎比西米德兰兹郡（英国英格兰中部的郡）更宜居。更干净确实是。规划更好？和大多数英国古老城市不同，它们（至少新的城市是）已经被规划好了 - 尽管似乎并没有什么策略。只是疯狂地建设...交通的话...部分是挺高效的 - 你提到的高铁列车是惊人的（但你需要提前3天预订行程票 - 临近新年你甚至还要提前更久）否则你最终会赌死在他们的道路上，除了高速公路网络，这些道路很骇人听闻。我曾经走过郑州不止一条路，比起真正的大道更像是一个过山车。即使是高速公路网，最多也就是没有大量的坑坑洼洼，但是也常常容易发生交通堵塞 - 在完全失控的混乱驾驶中无能为力。

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Brockenhexe
Every Marxist knows Trier. Not joking.

每个马克思主义者都知道特里尔（马克思诞生地）。不开玩笑。

Churchman72
Demographica statistics are often dodgy. As a town planner I have examined several of their data sets over the years and they often 'mix and match' data from different sources and from different years in the same set. One figure can be from 2015 and another in the same set be from 2009. There is often no attempt to find a common denominator or normalisation of the data so often it is not an "apples with apples" comparison. I would not recommend them as a journalistic source but they have an active publicity campaign and regularly push stuff out to the media. Very few journalists seem to take the time to dig into their background (property lobbyists) or find corroborating sources that have more rigorous bases.

Demographica的统计数据往往很不靠谱。作为一个城市规划师，我查过他们多年来的一些数据集，他们经常把同一组中的不同来源和不同年份的数据“混合和匹配”。一个数据可能来自2015年，同一组中另一个数据来自2009年。常常不能找到数据的共同点或归一化，所以往往不是“苹果对苹果”的比较。我不会推荐它们作为新闻材料，但他们有积极的宣传活动，并定期向媒体推送。似乎很少有记者花时间挖掘他们的背景（财产说客），或者去找具有更严格基础的确凿来源。

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Birkenhead90210
I wouldn't say never but it's true that the air pollution is a very major problem. 

我不会说永远这样，但是空气污染的确是一个非常大的问题.

Birkenhead90210
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Bluegum
Actually I've stayed at least overnight in 27 of the cities listed in the article. 
And I specifically excluded "showpieces" like UNESCO sites. 
Many Chinese cities seem to have knocked down their genuine old areas and built new tourist-oriented "old towns." 

实际上我在文中提到的27座城市呆过一夜。
我特别排除了一些”样板”，比如联合国教科文组织遗产地。
许多中国的城市真正的老城区已经被推倒了，然后建立了新的有旅游导向型的“老城区”。