中国2016年国防预算增加7-8% [英国媒体]

​据一位高级官员称,北京为使其军事更为高效,今年的国防预算增长率将设置在7-8%之间,略低过去2位数的增长。英国网友:花钱打仗和与全球变暖有联系,1万亿美元的产值相当于巨量的全球变暖,这还不包括武器的实际使用。这1万亿美元本可以用在更好的地方。


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China will raise its defence spending by between 7-8% this year, a senior official has said, a smaller increase than the double-digit rises of the past as Beijing seeks a more efficient military.

据一位高级官员称,北京为使其军事更为高效,今年的国防预算增长率将设置在7-8%之间,略低过去2位数的增长。

China's budget will rise to around around 980bn yuan ($150bn) as the Beijing regime increases its military heft and asserts its territorial claims in the South China Sea, raising tensions with its neighbours and with Washington.

中国国防预算将提升至9800亿人民币(1500亿美元),北京增强南海的军事存在,和对南海主权的声索,加剧了北京与其邻国及华盛顿之间的紧张局势

Defence spending last year was budgeted to rise 10.1% to 886.9bn yuan ($135.39bn), which still only represents about one-quarter that of the United States. The US defence budget for 2016 is $573bn.

去年中国的国防预算的增长率为10.1%,达到8869亿人民币(1353.9亿美元),只有美国的四分之一。今年,美国的国防预算为5730亿美元。


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itsfridayiminlove
If China were to deploy missiles on Hainan Island which the international community recognizes as China's territory then I have no problem with that. The problem is that China built artificial islands on its neighbor's exclusive economic zones (EEZ) and is currently militarizing it. It's like your neighbor putting up a machine gun inside YOUR backyard. 

 如果中国在国际社会认可其主权的南海岛礁上部署导弹,我不会有啥意见,问题是中国在她邻居专属经济区建设人造岛屿并将其军事化。这就好比你的邻居在你的后院拿枪指着你。

snakeatzoes
" That the West has sat back and reduced defence expenditure at the same time," Do you get a percentage ? The west has attacked the ME virtually non stop this century. What on earth has China done in the same time.? 

  “与此同时,西方做了缩头乌龟,减少了国防预算。”你知道个啥 ?西方四处制造麻烦的时候,中国有做了什么?

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snakeatzoes
" Corbyn would have us dismantle Trident and effectively hand over the country to its enemies." 50 years out of dare. If China wished to destroy us they would stop selling us washing machines for a hundred quid. " Vote smart, vote Tory" I tried to join the Tories but my parents were legally wed and I was disqualified 

“Corbyn(英国右派工党议员)会让我们拆了三叉戟导弹武器系统的,并把本世纪拱手让给敌人”
50年后,如果中国想要摧毁我们,只需停止向我们销售价值100英镑的洗衣机即可。
" 聪明点投票,把票投给Tory“,我本来想加入托利党的,但老爸老妈是合法婚姻,所以我不够格。(腐国人民日常,使劲黑自家政客)

quarrytone
I live there. If I lived in the US I'd be more on the US page. 

假如我生活在美国,我就会支持美国。

tricky1992000
That 150 billion dollars will go much further in China, than it does in the US. A lieutenant's salary in the PLA is just over ?320 pounds a month, while a basic soldier gets about ?125 pounds a month. And their equipment would cost less too, because of cheap Chinese Labour. 

中国比美国在军事上花费同样的1500亿美元要走的更长更远,PLA一个尉官的薪水是320英镑一个月,而基层士兵的薪水仅有125英镑(这是啥时候的事了?),由于廉价的劳动力,他们武器装备的成本也更低廉。

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RortyDog
if you mean in renminbi terms the real defence spending is probably falling. 

如果你是说从人民币角度看,那么实际的国防预算反而可能是在下降。

moreblingplease
spending on warfare is directly linked to increased global warming. An industry of over $1000 billion equals massive global warming excluding their actual use. The world could better use $1000 billion. 

花钱打仗和与全球变暖有联系,1万亿美元的产值相当于巨量的全球变暖,这还不包括武器的实际使用。这1万亿美元本可以用在更好的地方。。(这哥们可真会联想)

tricky1992000
It's been involved in the anti piracy activities of the Horn of Africa. 

这事牵扯到索马里反海盗。(我敢肯定这哥们说的不是马六甲海盗,地死早)

quarrytone
My understanding is no, not since then. Except for tit for tat movements on the disputed border with India, no shots fired. 

  中国在争议边境线上与印度争锋相对,但没开过一枪一炮(三哥莫名空降)

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FTWftw
What is it with you and China? 

这对你和中国来说算什么?

quarrytone
Agreed. Please note I didn't say it did though understand it could be seen that way. 

同意。 请注意我并认同中国的做法,尽管我很理解中国为什么被这样看。

quarrytone
Straw man. I made no such claim. Just pointing out the irony. No, on sovereignty I am like the US, EU and entire West entirely neutral, I support neither China's enormous and outlandish claim, nor the smaller states' slightly outlandish claims, just like the US. What I want is a negotiated sharing arrangement that is fair to all sides, and permits China some security over their 90% vital trade jugular. They (China) are mistakenly trying to impose a flawed Monroe Doctrine in their backyard. It won't work. The US 7th fleet and 2/3rd's of their nuclear subs are not going to leave. Like the US I do however oppose anything that "raises tensions" or "challenges the status quo", including Vietnam and others building more than 30 installations in the past decade or so (unreported). China being big is of course effectively a bully, and the US welcome in the region to counter balance that. 

我并没有作出这样的声明。我只是指出这其中的讽刺意味罢了。在主权问题上, 我同美欧一样是保持中立的,我既不支持中国庞大古怪的主权声明,也不支持较小国家相对不那么古怪的主权声明,和美国所持有的立场一样。我希望各方坐下来好好谈谈并制定各方都接受的协议,并允许中国保护其90%的重要贸易航线。中国错误的想在自己的后院实施有缺陷的门罗主义。那没用的。美国第七舰队和三分之二的核潜艇不会离开。像美国一样,我也反对任何引发紧张和挑战现状的举动,包括越南和其他国家过去十年来建立了30多个军事设施(都没报道出来)。中国变强大后当然会成为土霸,所以美帝被邀请到这片区域来平衡中国的势力。

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Gordomania
Has China been involved in any conflicts other than supressing its own population since... that war with Vietnam in the 1980s? Just out of interest... 

 在1980年代和越南打了一仗以后,除了镇压自己的人民,中国没卷入任何一场冲突。

Gordomania
I beat my wife, but that's ok because x killed his wife. It doesn't make either of them right, QT. 

因为某人宰了他老婆,所以我打了老婆不算啥大问题。但这两件事(指杀老婆和打老婆)都是不对的,所以,中国和邻国以及美国都有错!

Scipio1
So the US/NATO parks its military assets on Russia's doorstep and it is Russian 'aggression', now the US and its East Asian vassals park their naval assets on China's coast and its Chinese 'aggression'. What a peculiar logic this is. So the German Army re-occupies the Rhineland in 1936 and presumably this is French aggression. Russian aggression was installing nuclear missiles in Cuba, just as American aggression is installing ABMs in Romania and Poland and 'pivoting' to Asia. How exactly was China supposed to act when over half the US navy is anchored of their coast. 

美帝/北约把自己的军队放在毛熊的家门口,然后说:这是毛熊入侵!
现在美帝和他的亚洲走狗把自己的海军放在中国的海域,然后说:这是中国入侵!
这得是多大的脑洞啊!
德国军队1936年的时候重新占领了莱茵兰地区,然后声称是法国入侵。
毛熊在古巴部署核导弹,与美国在罗马尼亚和波兰部署反导弹是一副德性。
美帝把过半的海军部署在中国的沿海,你想中国会有什么好反应?

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quarrytone
You mean you didn't know? 

你说你不知道?

skipsdad
So China would 'never seek hegemony' ? Then why is China claiming 'rights' and 'ownership' over building artificial islands, in the public swimming pool ? If the legality of these 'islands' is not challenged, then this will be a turning point in world history. Chinese dominance of the South China Sea, and trading routes, will see terminal decline in the west, especially America, with regard to the highly indebted US economy, its trading partners throughout the world, and the demise of the US Dollar as world reserve currency. These 'islands', are all important. Granted, China has a big baseball bat, but collectively, the others have lots of smaller ones capable of severe, sustained and prolonged attack. Ask China to remove them. If they don't, then tell them to remove them. If they don't, then obliterate them. China won't engage in nuclear war. Their loss of face, is better than their loss of sovereignty and national pride. 

中国永不称霸?那么中国为什么在公海的人造岛礁上宣称其所有权?    如果这些岛礁的合法性不受到挑战,那么这将是世界历史上重要的转折点。
中国统治南海和贸易路线,会导致西方世界的最终衰落,特别是高负债的美国,美元的世界储备货币地位将因此终结。
这些岛礁,真的全部都很重要!
现在的情形就好比中国有一条粗又硬的大球棒,其他国家只有小球棒,但这些小球棒团结起来能造成严重、持续和长久的攻击,这时小球棒们要求中国离开这些人造岛屿,如果中国人不愿意,小球棒们就会告诉中国他们将清除中国。中国当然不干,这时中国粗又硬会出手,把小球棒们消灭的干干净净,当然,这个过程中国不会诉诸核武,仅管中国棒球粗又硬殴打细又软会丢面子,但丢面子总好过丢国家主权和尊严。

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Chris Rowe
Wistful something! A smart vote is only a Tory vote if you don't need state education, NHS or a pay rise if your not in the 1%. A smart vote is for someone who would look for a diplomatic solution not a willy waving contest. Because Kim doesn't care how big our willy is, he's still gonna make a mess all over the place... So to speak 

如果你不需要接受国家教育,不需要医疗服务和加薪,或者你不是社会顶尖的1%,那就放聪明点,投票给保守党吧。把票投给不通过竞争比赛而是通过外交途径解决问题的政党是聪明的表现。因为基姆压根不关心我们的威利有多大,他只会继续把所有地方都弄得一团糟,就是这样。

Kavi Mazumdar
Yup. That excuses China's land grabs and Sabre rattling which is driving every SE Asian country into the arms of the US. :) 

真棒。借着中国牙舞爪叫嚣着与东南亚国家的领土争端,东南亚国家都可以投入美国的怀抱。:)

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wistfulmemory
In this climate, Corbyn would have us dismantle Trident and effectively hand over the country to its enemies. Vote smart, vote Tory 

Corbyn(英国右派工党议员)会让我们拆了三叉戟导弹武器系统的,并把本世纪拱手让给敌人。聪明点投票,把票投给Tory   [感谢上面那位翻译了的兄弟]

ChrisD58
China's military expansion worrying enough.. That the West has sat back and reduced defence expenditure at the same time, not good.. Throw in the perverse expansionist ambitions of the Butcher of Grozny.. ..Something evil this way comes 

中国的军事扩张足以令人担忧......在西方国家不采取行动并减少国防支出的同时......这可不妙...... 扔掉格罗兹尼屠夫的蛮横扩张主义野心……这种方式会带来邪恶

OilBeBuggered
My guess is that US troops are better paid than Chinese. I'm sure China doesn't have any territorial ambitions in the area...hang on a minute? 

我猜美国军人的薪水比中国军人高,我肯定中国在该地区没有任何领土野心。。。等等?

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quarrytone
Indeed, 35 separate instances of bombing / invasion since WWII as World Policeman. Clearly ----- is the world's biggest aggressor. 

事实是,二战以来,美帝作为世界警察,曾经轰炸或入侵过35个国家和地区。很明显,美帝----是世界最大的侵略者。

Stepbacktakealook
Surely it's the word 'defence' that should be in quotes. 

 毫无疑问,防御这个词应该括上双引号。

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Kavi Mazumdar
Only 7-8 % ? Come on China. How you gonna compete once Japan revs up and joins the US? :) I'll bet the 150 billion still isn't higher than the budget for domestic security . 

  只有7-8 % ?中国别这样,这么低的的军费怎么跟美日同盟抗衡?
  我敢打赌,1500亿美元仍远低于中国国内的维稳费用.

quarrytone
What is the rate of inflation in China? If it's 3% then the rise is actually 4 or 5%. A slowdown in the rate of increase is good news, but with the slowdown in the economy more a matter of enforced economy than a reduction in defence capability ambition. 

中国的通胀率是多少?如果通胀率是3%,那么中国国防预算增率实际只有4-5%,军费增率下滑是好消息,但发展经济比减小国防力量的野心更重要。

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