中国购买加拿大：新的房地产热潮内幕 [加拿大媒体]

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Paul Shen can tick off the reasons Mainland Chinese people buy property in Canada as surely as any fast-talking B.C. realtor. Some long to escape the fouled earth and soupy air of their country’s teeming cities he explains while others are following relatives to enclaves so well-populated by other Chinese expats they hardly feel like foreigners.

保罗.沈可以和那些巧舌如簧的卑诗省房产中介一样，罗列出一堆中国大陆人到加拿大置业的理由。有些人是为了逃离他们国家遍地开花的城市中污染的土壤和浑浊的空气，还有些人是跟随他们的亲属，来到这到处都是中国侨民，几乎感觉不到身为外国人的飞地。

The richest of course regard homes in the West as stable vessels for disposable cash but Shen lays no claim to such affluence. Last spring the 39-year-old left behind his middle-management advertising job in Shanghai to seek the dream of home ownership he and his wife couldn’t afford in their home city. “We just followed our hearts to begin a totally different life” he tells Maclean’s adding: “We can make the house dream come true in Canada.”

最有钱的富豪当然是把西方购置的房子当成一次性支出的稳定投资，不过沈先生声称自己没这么多钱。去年春天，这位39岁的男人放弃了他在上海的广告公司的中层管理职位，来寻找他和妻子在家乡无力承担的梦中家园。“我们只是从心所愿，开始一种全新的生活，”他告诉麦克莱恩，并补充道：“我们在加拿大可以实现自己的买房梦想。”






-------------译者：较量无声-审核者：龙腾翻译总管------------

How you feel about this issue really depends if you are lucky enough
or not to have property in Vancouver or Toronto and reaping the windfall
gains. It’s all about one’s self-interest. Property owners will be the one’s
complaining when the large city property prices crash and fall 50% like
what happened for example in the USA (2009) and Japan (1991).
But in the meantime non-property owners and renters are the one’s doing
the complaining. It’s all about one’s self-interest.
MICHAEL FORREST
ON MAY 9 2016 AT 3:05 PM

你对这个问题怎么看，主要是看你在温哥华或者多伦多有没有房产，如果有的话你就能获利。
这全都关乎于每个人的自身利益。
业主们将会在大城市的房价大跌50%的时候开始抱怨，就像2009年的美国和1991年的日本所发生过的那样。
但与此同时，非业主和租客们也一样在抱怨。
这全都关乎于每个人的自身利益。

-------------译者：较量无声-审核者：龙腾翻译总管------------

My partner and I own a home in Vancouver that has increased a ridiculous amount. However my self-interest may be tempered by the fact I have 2 non-property owning kids who won’t be able to afford a home in the place they grew up in due to the ludicrous housing situation.
As far I am concerned major changes should be brought in to ameliorate the housing crunch including banning the sale of residential property to non-residents (and *massive* fines for those found breaking that ban). Other cities and countries have policies in place to try to help their residents and we should as well.
The provincial and federal governments are totally falling down on this file and will be vulnerable on it.
JIM R
ON MAY 9 2016 AT 4:28 PM

我的伙伴和我在温哥华拥有一个价格飞涨的房子。虽然我自己获益了，可是我的两个孩子没房，在目前的情况下他们买不起房，所以总体来看我获得的好处并没有那么大。
我认为应该采取措施改善住房不足的问题，包括禁止向非居民出售房产（和对那些打算打破这些禁令的人实行“大规模”罚款）。其他城市和国家都有类似的帮助其公民的政策，我们也应当有。
省政府和联邦政府都在这个政策上栽跟头就说明他们是脆弱的。

-------------译者：带球狂奔-审核者：龙腾翻译总管------------

Will you be pleased if your house price falls 50% along with your retirement nest egg.
At least when it comes time to sell you have the flexibility to help payoff part of your
childrens’ mortgages and also keep some for your retirement. With interest rates so
low I can’t rely on the almost zero interest saving accounts to help fund my retirement
therefore will need the equity in my house.
MICHAEL FORREST
ON MAY 9 2016 AT 5:13 PM
 
 如果是你的房产价格和退休养老金直降50%，你会高兴么?
至少在售卖时你能够为孩子们的抵押贷款和你的退休金有所裨益。
利率这么低，我可不指望用几乎零利息的存款帐户来充实我的退休金啊
那么可以考虑买点股票。

DO what they do in Japan.
it is almost impossible to immigrate to Japan. It is illegal to own property in Japan unless you are Japanese.
That is why Japan today looks a lot like Japan of 100 years ago. If you are in Japan you are there as a guest. They don’t want you to become Japanese.
JAMESHALIFAX
ON MAY 10 2016 AT 12:30 PM

就像他们在日本所做的那样
移民日本几乎是不可能的。要知道除非你是日本人，否则拥有产业是非法的。
这就是为什么今天的日本看起来和100年前的日本更像。如果你在日本你会更像是个过客，他们不希望你变成日本人。

-------------译者：较量无声-审核者：龙腾翻译总管------------

Too late:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCj2I0EJ9PM
GREATWALLSOFFIRE
ON MAY 10 2016 AT 4:56 PM
 
迟了：
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCj2I0EJ9PM
伟大的防火墙
 
Your claim is simply not correct.
It is entirely legal to own property in Japan if you are not a Japanese national.
You can become a Japanese citizen as long as you:
are over 20 years old
have lived in Japan for more than 5 years
speak Japanese
don’t have a criminal record
have enough income to support yourself
are willing to give up your former nationality
BRUCE CHATWIN
ON MAY 21 2016 AT 7:22 AM

你的断言明显不正确。
在日本即使你不是日本国籍却拥有财产是完全合法的。
只要你符合以下条件，你就可以成为一名日本人（译者按：应该是指拥有日本国籍）：
年龄超过20岁
在日本生活的时间已经超过5年
讲日语
没有违法记录
拥有可以养活自己的收入
打算放弃你的原国籍。

-------------译者：好死不如赖活着-审核者：龙腾翻译总管------------

even if housing fall 50 % it is still over priced .it has gone up 120% in 10 years .please vote liberal out
Canada is for Canadians .our government is selling us out . if they got out of there offices and had a look around at what is happen in our neighborhoods .its not just housing that we are losing its also our community .Maybe its time to hit the street in protest . what else can we do they are not listening .
LINDA LABELLE
ON MAY 10 2016 AT 6:00 PM
 
 即使房价下降百分之五十但它的价格仍是过高的。这十年内它已经上涨了120%了。为了加拿大的未来，请投票让自由党滚出加拿大。我们的政府正在出卖我们。如果他们走出他们的办公室看看我们的领居们都发生了什么。我们失去的不仅仅是住房还有我们的社会。也许是时候上街游行抗议了。他们一直不肯正视民意的话我们也只能出此下策了。
 
Said the article:
“China limits foreign purchases of currency to $50000 per year and has been tightening controls to keep money from flowing elsewhere. This has left lingering questions about how so many mainland Chinese have been able to afford expensive houses abroad.”
At least one Canadian bank CIBC is helping mainland Chinese to get around China’s currency controls.
See:
h$$p://www.scmp.com/comment/blogs/article/1854618/judges-cibc-bank-supports-clients-who-break-chinas-cash-export-laws
JIM R
ON MAY 9 2016 AT 4:16 PM

 中国限制外汇购买至每年50000美元并一直加紧控制资金流入其他国家或地区。所以这就造成了一个让人想不明白的问题：为什么很多大陆人可以在外国购买昂贵的豪宅呢。至少有一家加拿大银行即加拿大帝国商业银行在帮助大陆人逃避中国的货币管制。

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I genuinely believe that any political party who dares to confront the elephant in the room with a sensible solution before the next provincial election will win the lower mainland with a landslide. The amazing part is how many options are available and how none of them are being followed.

我由衷地相信任何政党在选举前敢于用合适的方案面对这个被刻意回避的问题，在下一次省选举中一定能获得压倒性的胜利。最关键的部分是有多少手段可行和如何效仿。

My two favourite options would be to actively prosecute realtors who don’t report suspicious transactions and/or to massively increase the cost of a demolition permit.

我热衷的两个手段有：起诉地产经纪因为他们没有报告可疑交易，或者大幅上调拆除许可的价格。

If a student/housewife buys a multi-million dollar property in cash – that should be flagged. Send a couple realtors to jail and compliance will skyrocket.

如果学生/主妇用现金购买数百万美元的资产- 应该被标记。送一对地产经纪去监狱然后就太平了。

Or if a demolition permit were to say equal the sale price of a house it would make houses a much less attractive investment option while preserving the heritage of the city.
PARTRIDGE
ON MAY 9 2016 AT 5:11 PM

或者 如果一个拆除许可等价于一栋房子使得投资不这么有诱惑力同时还保护城市的文化遗产。
 
Follow the money both political parties are run by older individuals who own houses and both get money from the real estate industry. Particularly the Liberals.
TED BUNCE
ON MAY 9 2016 AT 7:38 PM

跟钱走，两党的领袖都是年老的政治家，他们已经拥有自己的房产，而且都从房地产行业那里获得了钱财，特别是自由党人。

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Source please
EMILYONE
ON MAY 10 2016 AT 10:31 AM

请提供下来源

The developer/real estate industry gives much money to the Liberals. It’s a well known fact.
h$$p://www.huffingtonpost.ca/dermodtravis/political-donations-liberals-ndp_b_9654186.html
h$$p://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/donor-lists-reveal-bc-liberals-greed-for-power/article29535533/
h$$p://thetyee.ca/News/2016/05/02/Clark-Donors-Tied-Real-Estate/
JIM R
ON MAY 10 2016 AT 11:57 AM
 
开发商/房地产行业给自由党人送钱，这是众所周知的事实。
 
It is not illegal to donate money to political parties 
That doesn’t mean they get special benefits as lots of people donate all of this is published
EMILYONE
ON MAY 10 2016 AT 1:28 PM

向政党捐款是不违法的
这并不意味着他们得到了特别的好处，因为有很多人捐款，而且都公布了。

-------------译者：好死不如赖活着-审核者：龙腾翻译总管------------

Pay no attention to emily she is just a Liberal shill.
ARK2
ON MAY 10 2016 AT 1:46 PM

 甭管Emily了，她就是自由党的托儿。

Never been a Liberal dude
EMILYONE
ON MAY 10 2016 AT 2:40 PM

伙计，我从来都不是自由党人。
 
JimR
You imply that politicians are on the take that is illegal and you can’t make such random accusations.
If people don’t contribute to political parties privately they’ll have to be supported with tax money. Would you prefer that?
They can’t operate on air ya know..
EMILYONE
ON MAY 10 2016 AT 2:45 PM

 你的意思是说政府被买通了，这可是违法的。而且你也不应该贸然指控。如果人们不私下支持政党，他们就只依靠税收了，难道这是你乐于见到的吗？你知道的他们不可能依靠空气存活的。