马德里禁止半数汽车上路抵抗空气污染 [英国媒体]

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Madrid has ordered half of most private cars off the roads on Thursday to tackle worsening air pollution a first in Spain.

周四马德里要求几乎半数的私家车禁止上路，以解决严重的空气污染问题，这项措施在西班牙尚属首次。

The restrictions will operate between 6.30am and 9pm and will be re-uated daily depending on pollution levels. The city council said in a statement: “vehicles with even-number registration plates will be allowed to drive around on even-number days and cars with odd-number registration plates on odd-number days”.

这个规定限制从早上6：30到晚上9点，并且根据每天的污染情况进行调整。城市委员会是这样说的，“牌照号码数字是偶数的汽车将被允许在日期是偶数的那天开，牌照号码数字是奇数的汽车将允许在日期是奇数的那天开。”

The measure is activated when levels of harmful nitrogen dioxide in the atmosphere go above 200 microgrammes per cubic metre in at least two measuring stations for two days running and if the air is unlikely to clear imminently.

大气中有害的二氧化氮连续两天在至少两个监测站显示超过每立方米200微克，以及污染的空气不能立刻清理干净的情况下，这项措施就会实施。


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cmsens 7h ago
Excellent concept. Should be adopted everywhere with the goal of phasing gas-powered pollution spewing machines out of existence as they should have been ages ago.

很赞的想法。目标是淘汰掉这些使用汽油的汽车，这些汽车早在几十年前就应该被淘汰了。

Skytree cmsens 5h ago
Except it has been tried many times and has backfired many times.

虽然这种规定已经尝试过很多次，但是很多次都只是反效果。

RampantHaddock Skytree 2h ago
Examples?

有例子吗？

Skytree RampantHaddock 53m ago
Mexico City for one.
http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/529398?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
And this paper has a summary of the experience from several countries.
http://www.crossref.org/iPage?doi=10.15446%2Fdyna.v81n188.40081

墨西哥城有一个。
http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/529398?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
本篇文章总结了几个国家的经验
http://www.crossref.org/iPage?doi=10.15446%2Fdyna.v81n188.40081

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scrambling 2h ago
As somebody who lived in Madrid for 5 years recently and developed asthma there yes they DO have a problem and YES this regulation is useful. And NO nobody except a few percentage of drivers will be dumb enough to buy a 2nd car (you can't get 2nd plates easily in Spain) just for the very few days this anti-pollution measure is activated.
For those underqualified in reading comprehension there are lots of exceptions like cars carrying more than one person (VAO Vehiculos de Alta Ocupacion) taxis hybrid vehicles etc...apart from the obvious public transport wich in Madrid is top class (you know not yet privatised).
But sooner than later people will have to assume that diesel in the first place must go.

作为一个住在马德里近五年，以及最近得了哮喘的人，我得说，的确，他们确实有问题。以及的确，这个限制措施是有用的。但是不行的是，除了一部分司机外，没有人会因为几天的防污染措施而傻到去买第二辆汽车（而且在西班牙获得第二个牌照是不容易的）。
对于那些在阅读理解上学历不高的人来说，有很多其他选择，像汽车核载一人以上（高入座率车辆），出租车混合汽车等等。且不说在马德里的明摆着的高级的公共交通（你知道还没有私有化的）
但总有一天，人们将必定认为柴油机首先得出局。

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waxpan  scrambling 1h ago
As someone  resident in Madrid right now I couldn′t agree more.

作为目前居住在马德里的居民，我表示非常支持。

scrambling  scrambling 1h ago
Just a correction: For pollution regulations VAO (high occupancy vehicles) are considered those carrying 3 or more people.

小小的修正：对环境保护条例而言，高入座率车辆指的是携带三人或以上的车辆。

mjg2009  scrambling 43m ago
Since most of the diesel users are commercial vehicles for whom the greenies can offer no reasonable substitute one might come to the conclusion that this whole razz-ma-tazz on a dull news day is nothing other than gesture politics. 
I love the thought that during a time when Brexit poses some significant challenges the shrieking greenies think it's appropriate to play about with how people particularly Londoners get to work and thus London's viability house prices and so on. 
We should have another fatuous referendum the question being: Should England go back to the Stone Age?

因为大多数的柴油机用户是商用车，如果那些环保份子不能为他们提供一个合理的替代方案，那么这些用户可能会有这样的想法：愚蠢的每日新闻喧喧嚷嚷的，除了宣传政策什么用都没有。
我认同这个想法，在某个时期，当脱欧构成严峻的挑战时，惹眼的环保份子认为是时候来戏弄人民了，特别是伦敦人民。说他们得到了工作，因为此伦敦房价也亲民了，以及一些类似的东西。
我们应该再发起一个愚蠢的公民投票，问题是这样：英国应当回到石器时代吗？

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z8000736 2h ago
Fortunately there's a cheap effective counter-measure which reverses the obesity crisis at the same time. It's called the bicycle.

幸运的是，有一个廉价有效的应对措施，同时能逆转肥胖危机。这个方法叫叫骑自行车。

Horea Matei z8000736 1h ago
Cycling in highly polluted areas speeds up the breathe problems. The bigger the actual pollution the less incentives you have to start switching to cycling.

在高度污染的地区骑自行车会加速呼吸问题。实际污染越大，你开始转向骑自行车的动力越小。

Dickbird Horea Matei 8m ago
Counter-intuitively cyclists suffer less. Just because they are breathing more they clear their lungs more effectively than motorists sitting in the same fug but inactive and breathing shallowly.

与我们的直觉相反，骑车的人遭受的痛苦是较少的。只因为他们呼吸更多，比起同一空气下的汽车驾驶者更能有效清理他们的肺，因为后者不活动且呼吸缓慢。

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Golluble 3h ago
Everyone has a presumed RIGHT to own and drive at least one automobile.
WRONG!
WRONG!
WRONG!

假设每个人都有一个权利-至少拥有和驾驶一辆汽车。
错！
错！
错！

stuckinoffice Golluble 2h ago
Who has the Right?

谁有权利？

RCrusoe2 stuckinoffice 52m ago
Anyone who has the money to buy one?

任何有钱买车的人？

Hank_Scorpio RCrusoe2 44m ago
Nope that's privilege.

不，这是特权。

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spineynorman 2h ago
This is a problem that has been building up for years. Thousands of people die every year due to respiratory infections caused by pollution in our cities. At least the present city council has the guts to start to deal with the situation. "...the conservative Popular party (PP) ... ruled Madrid for nearly a quarter of a century and governs at the national level" The PP has done nothing for fear of upsetting voters.

这是一个已经存在了多年的问题。我们的城市每年有数千人死于由污染引起的呼吸道感染。至少现在的市议会有勇气开始处理这种情况。 “保守的人民党统治了马德里近四分之一个世纪，而且是国家层面上的统治”人民党因害怕惹怒选民而无所作为。

quintessinal 2h ago
Pollution is a fact and it is destroying our health and the planet. Bravo Madrid for actually doing something about it rather than posturing.

污染是一个事实，它正在破坏我们的健康和地球。马德里干得好，做出了实事，而不是故作姿态。

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Lee Tsui 6h ago
Here in Hong Kong we now have a tonne of new electric vehicle Incentives and currently tesla is dominating with the Model S. You'll see around 4 on every street. Hopefully the new generation of 300+ mile electric vehicles will begin to solve this problem in Europe. But the governments really need to invest in electric charging locations throughout the cities in order for people to adopt them properly. Hybrids are only half the solution but the electrification of the entire fleet of city vehicles removes all emissions from The cities

我们香港眼下有一大堆新的电动车激励政策，现在特斯拉Model S 是主导车型。每条大街你都能看到4辆左右。希望这款行驶里程达300英里以上的新一代电动车可以开始解决欧洲的这一问题。但是政府确实需要在整个市区投设充电桩，这样大家就能好好地开电动车。混合动力只是一半的解决方案，但是城市车辆全部电气化就能彻底解决城市的尾气排放。

YeOldeSoothsayer  Lee Tsui 4h ago
In HK earlier this year I saw 2 Teslas in a month. 4 on every street? You must live in a very wealthy area. Central? Repulse Bay? Not many of them to be seen in Kowloon New Territories or the islands.

我今年早些时候在香港，一个月只看到两台特斯拉。每条大街有4台？你肯定住在一个非常富的社区。中环？浅水湾？九龙、新界或者离岛这里不太看得到。

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MovedtoFrance  Lee Tsui 2h ago
I live in a small village in rural france miles from any large towns. We have high speed broadband and an electric car charging point. It can be done.

我住在法国农村的一个小村庄里，离周围的大城镇都很远。但我们有高速宽带和一个电动车充电点。事实证明这是可以做到的。

charminggal  Lee Tsui 54m ago
I think it will be china that takes the lead on thisthey could start by manufacturing cheaper electric alternatives to petrol and dieselbut governments around the world must start right awaybefore it's too late...our planet and inhabitants cannot take much more..

我认为中国将会生产便宜的电动汽车替代汽油和柴油汽车而在这方面领先。但是世界上的其他政府也必须在为时已晚之前立刻开始...我们的星球和居民已经不能承受更多的污染了..

HappyExpat50 7h ago
A lot of VW's in Madrid then ?

然后马德里到处是大众汽车？

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spineynorman  HappyExpat50 2h ago
Spain is one of seven countries facing legal action by the European Commission for not penalising the car manufacturer for using illegal cheat recording devices.

西班牙是七个因为没有处罚非法使用欺骗性的记录装置的汽车制造商，而面临欧盟对它进行法律制裁的国家之一。

http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2016/12/23/spain-faces-eu-fine-for-inaction-after-volkswagen-emissions-scandal/

John Simmons  HappyExpat50 2h ago
funny thing is in real world driving conditions the VW cars with cheat sw are lower emissions than some of the compliant cars

有意思的是在真实世界的行车情况下，有着作弊软件的大众车有比一些按规矩办事的汽车更低的排量。

Aldous Atwood 3h ago
Madrid has a GREAT Metro system! And too many cars! This should become a permanent practice. It might boost the car licensing program as everyone will then buy two plates.

马德里有一个伟大的地铁系统！以及很多的车辆！这应该成为一个永久措施。它可能推动汽车牌照项目，因为每个人到那时需买两个牌照。

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waxpan  Aldous Atwood 1h ago 
And more pedestrian zones please. The mayor wants to ban cars from the Gran Via which would be a joy to behold. Quite apart from the pollution the pavements just can′t contain the masses of people particularly around Christmas. The top end of Via Fuencarral is opened up for people on Sundays and it is bliss to stroll down there and see kids on their bicycles skateboards and roller-skates. More visionary leadership is required - perhaps a new era of re-imagining the city to rival that of Carlos III. Bring it on!

请增加更多的人行横道吧。市长想要禁止从 Gran Via 来的汽车，那场景一定很有趣。远离污染，人行横道却不能满足大批的人流，尤其是在圣诞节附近。Via Fuencarral 的末端周日向行人开放，沿街走下去是件很愉快的事情，可以看到孩子们骑自行车、玩滑板车和轮滑。人们需要更有远见的领导-可能开创重新设想这个城市的一个新纪元，可以媲美Carlos III的年代，变革吧！

boulevard75 2h ago
They do this in Paris and other French towns too. And make public transport free.

巴黎和其他法国城市也在实行这一措施，而且公共交通免费。