由“中国制造业需要多少天来产生相当于越南全年的产值?”引发的争吵 [巴基斯坦媒体]

How many daysneeded by China to generate the industry value equal to vietnam's fullyearresult?

中国制造业需要多少天来产生相当于越南全年的产值?





GS Zhou Feb 8,2018
FULL MEMBER
How many daysChina's manufacturing industry needs to generate the value that equivalent tovietnam's fullyear result?
The answer is 2.97days, even less than 3days.
According to theworld bank database, in 2015 (the year with the latest available data), China'smanufacturing-industry value-added was $3,250. 42 billion; the vn figure was$26.46 billion, i.e. 0.8142% of China.
Supposed the valueis generated evenly throughout the year, theoretically, 2.97 days needed forChina to generate the corresponding vn amount. ( 0.8142% * 365 = 2.97)
BTW, in 2005,China still needed 5.40 days for this job. But in 2015, it reduced to 2.97days. I.e. in the past 10years, the manufacturing sector gap between the twocountries are becoming even wider.
link to the dataused:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NV.IND.MANF.CD?locations=CN-VN
BTW, China willsoon start its week-long Chinese New Year vacation. I.e. China is going to lose2.4x of vn's full-year industry value during the seven days. Sad

中国制造业需要多少天来产生相当于越南全年的产值?
答案是2.97天，甚至少于3天。
根据世界银行的数据，在2015（最新的可用数据的年份），中国的制造业增加值为32504.2亿美元；越南的数字是264.6亿美元，即中国的0.8142%。
假设该值在全年中均匀产生，理论上，中国需要2.97天来产生相应的越南产值。(0.8142% * 365 = 2.97)
顺便说一下，在2005年，中国仍然需要5.4天的时间来完成这项工作。但在2015年，这一数字降至2.97天。在过去的10年里，两国之间的制造业差距越来越大。
链接到所使用的数据:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NV.IND.MANF.CD?locations=CN-VN
顺便说一句，中国即将开始为期一周的中国年期。也就是说，在7天内，中国将会损失2.4倍的越南的全年工业价值。悲伤。

ddlee96969 Feb 8,2018
FULL MEMBER
china still has along way to cath up usa . fortunately, the government of china had been focusingon ecnomy.

中国要赶上美国还有很长的路。幸运的是，中国政府一直致力于经济。

Ahmet Pasha
SENIOR MEMBER
Why is there sucha bid rivalry between China and Vietnam??

为什么中国和越南之间有这样的竞争?

punit
BANNED
They have a loyalcolony.

他们有一个忠诚的殖民地。

Unknown-V
FULL MEMBER
Well , it's notfair to compare Vietnam to entire China. Should be compare Vietnam and one ofChina's prefecture level city.

把越南和整个中国进行比较是不公平的。应该比较越南和中国的一个地级市。

utp45
FULL MEMBER中
Vietnam is betteroff being a part of Guangxi

成为广西的一部分对越南更好

Viet
ELITE MEMBER
utp45 said: ↑
【Vietnam is better off being a part of Guangxi】
sounds good,sounds prosperity and progress but if history is a guide, you just want toenslave Vietnam. Pretty much how the Egyptians enslaved the Jews.
You can imaginehow the Jews were happy after escaping Egypt slavery.

听起来不错，很繁荣进步，但如果以历史为鉴的话，你们只想奴役越南。埃及人是如何奴役犹太人的？
你可以想象，当逃离埃及的奴役后，犹太人是多么的高兴。

HannibalBarca
SENIOR MEMBER
Ahmet Pasha said: ↑
【Why is there such a bid rivalry betweenChina and Vietnam?? 】
That's whatSupapowaa do... Showing off/Bully... to the weaker ones... NO one isdifferent... whatever the name you may have or where you from... Humans stayHumans...
And anyone get ataste of it...whoever you may be (Allies/Friends/Brothers or Enemies)...
It's just a matterof time...

这就是超级大国会做的事……炫耀/欺负弱者……没有哪个不同…不管你叫什么来自哪里……
每个人都会能体会到……无论你是(盟友/朋友/兄弟或敌人)……
这只是时间问题……

Viet
ELITE MEMBER
HannibalBarcasaid: ↑
【That's what Supapowaa do... Showingoff/Bully... to the weaker ones... NO one is different... whatever the name youmay have or where you from... Humans stay Humans...
And anyone get ataste of it...whoever you may be (Allies/Friends/Brothers or Enemies)...
It's just a matterof time... 】
Do you to liveunder slavery? I guess no.
No we don’t wantto live under the Han’s slavery. Yes we are poor but free

你愿意在奴隶制下生活吗?我想你不愿意。
是的我们不想生活在汉族的奴役下。是的我们贫穷，但自由。

utp45
FULL MEMBER
Viet said: ↑
【sounds good, sounds prosperity and progressbut if history is a guide, you just want to enslave Vietnam. Pretty much howthe Egyptians enslaved the Jews.
You can imaginehow the Jews were happy after escaping Egypt slavery. 】
First, they werenot jews. they were Hebrews who later invented judaism only after leaving Egypt,and second, bad comparison! jews have distinct culture while Vietnam does not.Vietnamese are already half way sinicized people. makes better sense if Vietnamgets absorbed into China

首先，他们不是犹太人。他们是希伯来人，后来在离开埃及后才发明了犹太教，第二，这比较真糟糕!犹太人有独特的文化，而越南没有。越南人已经中国化一半了。如果越南能被中国吸收那就更好了。

madokafc
ELITE MEMBER
Viet said: ↑
【sounds good, sounds prosperity and progressbut if history is a guide, you just want to enslave Vietnam. Pretty much howthe Egyptians enslaved the Jews.
You can imaginehow the Jews were happy after escaping Egypt slavery. 】
Nonsense, all inall those who rules Middle Kingdom since ancient time rarely trying to imposedirect rules over many kingdoms in south east asia, korean peninsula and japanislands. They had got themselves full of problems let alone to adding land theydeemed too alien and hostile. They only need tributaries and gifts to bebrought to Royal palace to please their monarch and population. Different onlywhen Mongol led khan dynasty trying to impose direct rules over neighbourscountry like Viet, Javanese kingdom and Japan.

一派胡言，自古以来，所有统治中国的人都很少试图对东南亚、朝鲜半岛和日本诸岛的许多王国实施直接统治。他们有很多问题，更不用说增加他们认为太陌生和充满敌意的土地了。他们只需要贡品和礼物就可以送到皇宫来取悦他们的皇帝和人民。不同的是，蒙古领导的汗王朝试图对越南、爪哇王国和日本等邻国实行直接统治。

Viet
ELITE MEMBER
China was and is a centralized state since theQin. in the case of Vietnam, it was ruled direct by the Emperor.

中国自秦国以来就是一个中央集权的国家。就越南而言，它是由皇帝直接统治的。

Offshore
FULL MEMBER
so the currentvietcong steal our land!
it's China righfulright to use nuke to eliminate vietcong for good

所以现在的越共偷走了我们的土地!
最好是用核武器消灭越共，这是中国的正当权利。

Viet
ELITE MEMBER
The Bible saysthey are Jews. Hebräisch stands more for spoken and written language. We in thepast usually called Chinese as “men of the Tang” or Tangren. Or Han in short.Regardless of different names you are chinese though. Anyway you had the chancebut you missed it. Injustice and oppression were the terms that linked toChinese rule.

圣经说他们是犹太人。希伯来语更适合于口语和书面语。我们过去常把中国人称为“唐朝人”或“唐人”，或简称汉人。尽管你们的名字不同，但你们是中国人。无论如何，你们曾经有机会，但你们错过了。不公正和压迫就是对中国统治的最好表达。

utp45 Feb 9, 2018
FULL MEMBER
Now I see what theproblem is....you are a south Vietnamese!! that would be a very ungratefulthing to say about Chinese rule if it's coming from a northerner, but sayingthat as a southerners I guess it's justifiable. Because at the time Chinadirectly ruled northern Vietnam, did try to conquer and "enslave" yousoutherners, for many times.
Maybe I should bemore specific. Let's just split Vietnam in half and we take the traditionalChinese land, while you southerners can keep enjoying your so called freedom,or do whatever you like..

现在我明白问题在哪了....你是南越人!!如果是北越人这么评论中国的统治，那将是一件非常忘恩负义的事，但你作为南方人这么说，我想这是有道理的。因为在中国直接统治北越的时候，曾很多次征服并“奴役”你们南方人。
也许我应该更具体些。让我们把越南一分为二，我们带走中国的传统土地，而你们南方人可以享受你所谓的自由，或者做你喜欢的事了。

Martian2 Feb 9,2018
SENIOR MEMBER
Ahmet Pasha said: ↑
【Why is there such a bid rivalry betweenChina and Vietnam?? 】
There isn't.
Vietnam is one ofthe smallest economies in Asia.
China: $12trillion
Taiwan: $0.57
Shenzhen City:$0.34
Hong Kong: $0.33
Singapore: $0.31
Vietnam: $0.2
However, theVietnamese members on PDF keep SPAMMING the "China & Far East"sub-forum. If you read the numerous new threads every day by Vietnamesemembers, you would think Vietnam is one of the biggest economies in Asia.
Taiwan's economyis almost three times the size of Vietnam's. I don't bother posting Taiwaneseeconomic news unless it is truly interesting.
On the other hand,the annoying Vietnamese members post every scrap of "potential"business deal in Vietnam. Who cares?
Vietnam is still a$0.2 trillion economy. Vietnam obtains 7 USPTO patents per year.
Vietnam is a TINYeconomy with almost NO INNOVATION. It is truly insignificant to the worldeconomy.
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Look at thisnonsense. Why does a $0.2 trillion economy warrant multiple threads EVERY DAYin the "China & Far East" sub-forum?
"Vietnam setsup $220 billion committee to boost privatisation"
"Vietnam, RoKlook towards $100 billion trade by 2020"
"Vietnam opensAcademy that gives graduates the chance to work for 50,000 Germancompanies"

“为什么中国和越南之间有这样的竞争?”
不是这样的。
越南是亚洲最小的经济体之一。
中国:12万亿美元
台湾: 0.57
深圳市:0.34
香港:0.33
新加坡:0.31
越南: 0.2
然而，在本论坛的越南会员却一直在 “中国与远东”版块大量的发垃圾帖。如果你每天都读到越南会员的大量新帖，你会认为越南是亚洲最大的经济体之一。
台湾的经济规模几乎是越南的三倍。除非真的很有趣，否则我不会发台湾经济新闻。
另一方面，令人讨厌的越南会员在发布了一大堆关于越南“可能的”的商业协议。谁在乎啊？
越南的经济规模仍为0.2万亿美元。每年获得7项美国专利局的专利。
越南是个很小的经济体，几乎没有创新。对世界经济来说，这是微不足道的。
看看下面这些胡说八道。为什么一个0.2万亿美元的经济每一天在“中国与远东”版块上发这么多帖？
“越南设立了拥有2200亿美元的委员会来促进私有化”
“越南韩国到2020年贸易额有望达到1000亿美元”
“越南开办学院，让毕业生有机会为5万个德国公司工作。”

Unknown-V Feb 9, 2018
FULL MEMBER
Since China's GDP is 60 TIMES larger than Vietnam's,just multiply those numbers by 60 to figure out China's capability. ex :"China sets up $13.2 trillion (220 billion x 60) comitte to bostprivatisation." :D Honestly it's still not make any sense.

因为中国的GDP是越南的60倍，仅仅把这些数字乘以60就能算出中国的能力。例如:“中国设立了拥有13.2万亿美元(2200亿x60)的委员会，以促进私有化。”老实说，这仍然没有任何意义。

Jlaw
SENIOR MEMBER
Wow even Singawhore GDP higher than Vietnam.

哇，甚至新加坡的GDP都比越南高。

Tom99
FULL MEMBER
Ahmet Pasha said: ↑
【Why is there such a bid rivalry between China andVietnam?? 】
Yeah. I don't see why some posters would gloat at suchcomparison. Both Vietnam and China still need a lot of developments to improvethe lives of their people and many decades to reach developed status.

是的。我不明白为什么会有些发帖者对这种比较幸灾乐祸。越南和中国仍然需要大量的发展来改善他们的人民的生活，以及需要几十年时间达到发达国家的情形。

Viva_Viet
SENIOR MEMBER
And CN still just a developing nation wt millionhungry children when winter coming plus millions jobless ppl survive just bybegging US-EU allow her to export her goods to their market.

而中国还只是一个发展中国家，当冬天到来的时候有着数百万饥饿儿童，再加上数百万失业者乞求美国-欧盟允许他们把产品出口到欧美市场才得以存活。

Kai Liu
FULL MEMBER
Meanwhile, you are begging us to allow you to exportyour vn brides to these hungry and jobless ppl.

与此同时，你们乞求我们允许你们出口越南新娘到这个有着饥饿和失业者的国家。

Viet
ELITE MEMBER
If you don’t like you can put VN news on ignored list.Why complain? You can continue creating threads with theme as railgun shootingat Taiwan or invading Mongolia. Or reading other 99 percent of threads createdby Chinese posters.
My threads have little to do with CN, most with US,JP, SK or Germany.
Ok our economy is small, yours is big. We areprimitive while you educated. Happy now?

如果你不喜欢，你可以把越南新闻放在被忽略的名单上。为什么要抱怨?你可以继续创建主题为“磁轨炮在台湾射击”或入侵蒙古的帖子。或者阅读其他99%由中国发帖者写的帖子。
我的帖子跟中国没什么关系，大多数都是关于美国，日本,韩国或者德国。
是啊我们的经济是很小，你们的很大。当你们接受教育时我们还很落后。现在你满意了?

Martian2
SENIOR MEMBER
No. You should stop flooding the threads.
Put your pointless Vietnamese news in the Vietnameseeconomy thread.
Vietnam is one of the smallest economies in Asia. Whydoes it deserve FOUR new threads EVERY DAY in the "China & FarEast" sub-forum?
"Vietnam sets up $220 billion committee to boostprivatisation" (548 views)
"Vietnam, RoK look towards $100 billion trade by2020" (185 views)
"Vietnam opens Academy that gives graduates thechance to work for 50,000 German companies" (84 views)
"Hanwha Techwin plans to produce parts for F-35jet engine in Vietnam" (251 views)
No one is reading your pointless Vietnamese threads.The view-count is extremely low. However, you are pushing other interestingthreads off the front page.
If I started flooding the "China & Far East"sub-forum with FOUR new threads PER DAY on Bhutan, PDF members would wonderwhat the hell is going on?
Similarly, what's the big idea with flooding the"China & Far East" sub-forum with pointless Vietnamese news EVERYDAY?
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According to the International Monetary Fund,Vietnam's economy will only be $0.33 trillion in the year 2022. That is stillsmaller than the GDP of Shenzhen City today.
Vietnam is making no progress economically and youshould stop creating new threads for such an insignificant country UNLESSsomething truly monumental happens.

不，你们应该停止你们那些泛滥的帖子。
把你们那些无意义的越南新闻发到越南经济帖里面。
越南是亚洲最小的经济体之一。是什么值得让你们每天在“中国和远东”版块发4帖以上？
“越南设立了拥有2200亿美元的委员会来促进私有化” （548观看）
“越南韩国到2020年贸易额有望达到1000亿美元” （185观看）
“越南开办学院，让毕业生有机会为5万个德国公司工作。” （84观看）
“Hanwha Techwin计划在越南生产F-35喷气式发动机部件”(251观看)
根本没人看你们毫无意义的越南帖。观看数非常低。但是，你们却让其他有趣的帖子从首页沉掉。
如果我开始每天在“中国和远东”版块发4张以上的不丹新闻贴，论坛上的人可能就会想这狗日的要干嘛？
同样的, "中国和远东"版块每天充斥着毫无意义的越南新闻, 你们到底有什么考虑？
根据国际货币基金组织的数据，越南的经济将在2022年度达到3300亿美元。这比今天深圳市的GDP还小。越南在经济上毫无进步，你们应该停止为这样一个微不足道的国家发新帖，除非发生真正重大的事情。

GS Zhou
FULL MEMBER
It is very interesting to see some members with theword "Viet" in user names complaining this fact-based thread is abully or insult to vietnam.
But look at posts just in the past few days, it isactually these "viet" guys are trolling hard and use every possiblechance to bully or to insult China. It is actually the weak country man thatare "speaking like a tycoon".
Some quick examples, all happened in the last fewdays, all made by guys with the word "Viet" in names.
the viet wishes China to become a waste land
the viet laughs China's newly-developed rail gun iswith a few dozes km in range
the viet claims China's newly-built islands in theSouth China Sea are easy projects, and vn could easily beat China via building100 new islands. 100, not 10.
these are just three small examples happened in thepast few days!!
If this thread is viewed as "insult" or"bully" to vietnam by the "viet" guy, sorry, this is theinsult or bully that he/she invites.

看到使用“Viet”这个词作为用户名的会员来抱怨这个基于事实的帖子是对越南的欺负或侮辱，这真有意思。
但就看几天前的帖子，实际上这些“Viet”这家伙正在艰难地寻找机会，利用一切可能的机会欺负或侮辱中国。实际上，这是一个“像大亨一样说话”的弱小国家。
一些例子，都发生在过去的几天里，都是“Viet”这家伙说的。
“Viet”希望中国变成荒地。
“Viet”嘲笑中国新开发的磁轨炮射程只有几公里。
“Viet”声称，中国在南海新建的岛屿是很容易的项目，而越南可以通过建造100个新岛屿轻松击败中国。100个哦,不是10个。
这些不过是几天前发生的三个小例子!!
如果这帖子被越南人视为“侮辱”或“欺负”，对不起，这是他/她招惹来的。

zeronet
FULL MEMBER
Being tiny is not a problem, China was also very tinyeconomically 50 years ago. so many tiny economies all around the world and wedon't have any problem with that. Being tiny while talking like a tycoon isdisgusting, and deserve a slap right on the face. "contain China","protect s. korea and Japan" in south china sea..... feel vomitingenough? yea, the tiny little thing talk like that, as always

小不是问题，中国在50年前经济也非常小。世界上有许多小经济体，我们对此没有任何问题。明明很小说话却像个大亨一样，令人厌恶，应该给他一个耳光。“遏制中国”，在南海地区“保护韩国和日本”……感觉吐足够了吗? 是的，这个小东西总是这样说话。