印尼国营的PT PAL造船厂生产的两艘军舰于星期一下水,其中一艘将是印尼首次由国营造船厂出口的海军舰艇。印尼网友:这些战舰是不是荷兰设计的并不重要,重点是印尼自己造出了这些战舰。我奉劝你别被外国宣传洗脑了,他们能想出任何众所周知的借口。
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State-owned shipbuilder PT PAL Indonesia launched two warships on Monday, one of which will be the first naval vessel exported by the domestic ship-building industry.
印尼国营的PT PAL造船厂生产的两艘军舰于星期一下水,其中一艘将是印尼首次由国营造船厂出口的海军舰艇。
The two ships launched in Tanjung Perak Port in Surabaya, East Java, were Missile Destroyer (PKR)-1 and Strategic Sealift Vessel (SSV)-1.
两艘军舰于东爪哇省泗水市的丹绒佩拉港下水,一艘是导弹驱逐舰,另一艘是战略补给舰。
PT PAL president director M. Firmansyah said the PKR-1 was ordered by Indonesia's Defense Ministry while the SSV-1 was ordered by the Philippines' Defense Ministry. The firm secured the order worth US$90 million from the Philippines' government for the construction of two SSVs after winning an international tender process.
PT PAL造船厂总裁M. Firmansyah说,这艘导弹驱逐舰由印尼国防部订购,而战略补给舰由菲律宾国防部订购。这家公司在经历一个国际性的招投标程序后赢下了菲律宾政府关于建造两艘战略补给舰,价值9000万美元的订单。
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Casual Goat Observer 13 hours ago
So is it still floating?
它还浮着吗?
krisna 13 hours ago
Are u still floating?, you know because of your airhead. So your head is actually lighter than air. Really nothing there.
(回上一贴)你还浮着吗?你个蠢货懂个屁。你的头比空气还轻,里面什么都没有。
angela007 22 hours ago
Would it not be better for indonesia to "Update" their own navy ships, especially with the pesceived threats on their borders?
印尼“升级”他们自己的海军舰艇岂不是更好,特别是有边境威胁的情况下?
krisna 15 hours ago
if you read the news carefully you would see that PT PAL has also finished building a light frigate warship for the Indonesian navy. Codename : PKR-1. But it wasnt mentioned in the news that it is for the (Indonesian navy). This the quotation below :
"The two ships launched in Tanjung Perak Port in Surabaya, East Java, were Missile Destroyer (PKR)-1 and Strategic Sealift Vessel (SSV)-1."
(回上一贴)如果你仔细读新闻就会发现PT PAL造船厂也同时为印尼海军造了一艘轻型驱逐舰。舰艇编号:PKR-1。但是新闻里没有提及这是为印尼海军造的,以下是原文所述:"两艘军舰于东爪哇省泗水市的丹绒佩拉港下水,一艘是导弹驱逐舰,另一艘是战略补给舰。"
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bilbobagginz 2 days ago
Good to see gov money put to good use for once.. not like they could spend the money else where right? Like the chances of anyone invading Indonesia are a: highly likely yes and b: momentously worth while... I guess they can sink more refugee ships and sell the things as tested... at a bargain with the usual under table rates. Good work Indo, good to know the Bakso guy is safe while he and his fam lives under a bridge.
非常高兴看到政府终于把钱用对了一次...不像他们把钱花到别出去了对吧?看起来别国侵略印尼的几率是【A:对,非常可能】以及【B:非常值得一打】...我猜他们可以击沉更多的难民船用来供被他们私下讨价还价卖掉的军舰测试... 做得不错啊,万幸我们还知道全家住在桥下卖肉丸的哥们还是安全的。
(译者注:Bakso为印尼语肉丸的意思,是来源于闽南语的词汇,是印尼常见美食,在此指代一般印尼百姓,下同)
EnakTenan 2 days ago
butthurt-ness so strong here, lol
恼羞成怒的人真多,哈哈
JLC 2 days ago
The first ever warship to be powered by bakso
第一艘战舰,为肉丸充能
krisna 2 days ago
maybe your entire brain is actually the size of a "bakso" or you yourself is the size of a "bakso". Dont know which is true though.
可能你们的脑子只有“肉丸”那么大,还是你们自己长得像个“肉丸”。我都不知道哪个是真的。
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AnakRantau 2 days ago
wow PKR-1 is a Missile Destroyer?? I thought it's just one more Frigate, because the govt will buy more PKR warships approximately 20 ships for Indonesian Navy, last year our govt also decided to buy a squadron of Su-35 fighter jets. what a good news for Indonesian people ^^
哇,PKR-1是艘导弹驱逐舰?我还以为又是一艘护卫舰,因为政府说要为印尼海军购买大约20艘的PKR战舰。去年我们政府也打算再买一个中队的苏-35战斗机。对印尼人民来说真是个好消息。
The true patriot 2 days ago
God bless the Indonesian empire.
上帝保佑印尼帝国。
yaudah 2 days ago
Indonesian what ? Empire.
Almost fell off my stool laughing.
Rather "The blind/deaf patriot"
(回上一贴)印尼什么?帝国。
我笑得快从凳子上翻下来了。
真是个“又瞎又聋的爱国者”
bayview249 2 days ago
Perhaps they can fill it up with batik, reject clothes from Bandung & crappy teak furniture and plastic hello kitty junk to go there !!
或许他们可以把船上装满万隆的巴迪衫(印尼服饰)、被退货的衣服、令人讨厌的柚木家具以及塑料Hello Kitty玩具这些垃圾并送过去!
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The true patriot 3 days ago
Does not matter if the warships were a Dutch design or not the point is Indonesia is building these warships on their own so I suggest you stop getting brainwashed by Foreign propaganda because they come up with any excuse known to man .
这些战舰是不是荷兰设计的并不重要,重点是印尼自己造出了这些战舰。我奉劝你别被外国宣传洗脑了,他们能想出任何众所周知的借口。
Mrpig96 2 days ago
What are u smoking
你在瞎扯什么?
Lance T 2 days ago
TP is smoking crack......again!
TP又吃错药了!(疑似指代下水港口)
Johnny Cool 3 days ago
So, the Philippine's Defence Ministry bought two SSV's before they've even passed sea-trials for US$90 million, or have I got this wrong?
I found this article confusing. At least the SSV-1 will be named the "Tarlac", and not "Titanic".
那么,意思是菲律宾国防部买了2艘战略补给舰,而甚至没试航过就付了9000万美元,我没理解错吧?
我发现这篇文章很诡异。至少这艘战略补给舰将被重命名为“塔尔拉克”,而非“泰坦尼克”。
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Mrpig96 3 days ago
Yes they bought unseen untested and unwarranted boats from a company who have never done it before and are running at such massive losses the state keeps injecting trillions just to pay its bills.
And best of all we are bragging about it
Not to mention it's actually an old Dutch design.
是的,他们从一个从来没生产过的公司买了这些看不到的、没经过测试的也无保障的船只,而这公司在经营上出现巨额亏损,国家却持续给它注入数以亿计的资金来支付它的账单。
最搞笑的是我们正在为这事而大肆吹嘘。
更别提这船其实是来自一个老旧的荷兰设计。
yaudah 2 days ago
On the other hand, it might be a great deal for the Filipinos.
Mind you, purchase contracts for sea-going vessels include some of the toughest purchase clauses, such as penalties for late delivery and such.
Pt. Pal has NEVER delivered any vessel, junk or otherwise, on contractual stipulated time.
另一方面,对菲律宾人来说这应该是个很棒的交易。
提醒你一下,购买海船的合同都包含一些苛刻的购买条款,比如对延迟交货或其他情况的惩罚措施。
PT PAL造船厂从来没有在合同规定时间内将任何船只、垃圾或者其他的玩意交货。
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lostbule 2 days ago
Untested? The ship is sisters to other 4 ships of the same class that are currently in service with the Indonesian navy and yes those 4 ships have done some sailing across the world without problems.
No, it is not Dutch design and it is not old. This ship is based on Makassar class design which is based on Daewoo's engineering design. In short, ships of Makassar class is a modified version of korean designed-LPD KRI Soeharso.But PT PAL wanted to be able to export them, so they did some modifications with Banjarmasin class LPD.
The one being exported to the phils is indonesian designed ship with some derivations to the original version of KRI Soeharso.
没测试过?这艘船是其他4艘同级别船的姊妹船,这4艘船目前正在印尼海军中服役,航行到世界各地也没出现问题。
不,这不是荷兰设计也并不旧。这艘船是基于马卡萨级别设计的,参照的是大宇的工程设计。简而言之,马卡萨级的舰船是韩国设计的苏哈托博士号登陆舰的改版。但由于PT PAL造船厂希望可以获准出口她们,他们参照马辰级登陆舰做了一些修改。
这艘出口到菲律宾的船是印尼设计的船只,并参考部分苏哈托博士号这艘原始版本的样船的衍生品。
Mrpig96 2 days ago
Stand corrected.
And good luck to all who sail on her.
我错了。
祝驾驶它航行的人们好运。
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Kvasa Rakyat 1 day ago
Simple google search can save you from public embarrassment and being ignoramus.
简单的google一下就可以让你避免在众人面前显得无知而出丑。
Sorong 2 days ago
At least Philippines did not name the ship after some terrorists.
至少菲律宾没有以某些恐怖分子的名字来命名这艘船。
lostbule 2 days ago
Sea Trial is one of final stages in ship purchase, I take it you don't understand anything about how (large) ship is bought
1. Signing of Contract
2. Production Design
3. Material and Equipment Purchase
4. Production Plan
5.Steel Cuting
6. Keel Laying Assembly and Mounting of Ship Sections
7. Launching
8. Finishing of the Vessel
9. Sea Trial
10. Delivery
11. Warranty
if anything happens during sea trial, the Phils will not lose anything. The ship will be repaired, reengineered until it is ready to be delivered. It is a standard practice in any shipyard.
试航是船舶交易的最后一环之一,我想你根本不知道大船的购买流程:
1.签署合同
2.产品描述
3.原料和设备采购
4.生产计划
5.钢材切割
6.龙骨的装配以及逐步安装其他部件
7.下水
8.完成全部生产环节
9.试航
10.交货
11.售后保障
如果在试航期间出现任何突发情况,菲律宾人不会损失什么。这艘船就将被维修,重新再设计直至交货。这是任何船厂的标准作业流程。
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