中国人对欧洲问题的思考：为什么欧洲人失去了他们的种族意识？（下） [法国媒体]

Chinese Reflections on Europe:Why have Europeans lost their racial consciousness?

中国人思考欧洲问题:为什么欧洲人失去了他们的种族意识？

David Zhang, January 22, 2016

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【日期】2016年1月22日




Alex P. Keaton • 3 years ago
"I have come to believe that the chaos and lack of economic progress in Africa are the result of their lack of motivation when faced with complex problem"
Watched a documentary once on African burial traditions- they let the body sit out. The narrator bragged about how "natural" and "one with nature" this "tradition" is. Never did it occur that, like most splibs, they're just lazy.

“我逐渐相信，非洲的混乱和经济发展不起来是由于他们在面对复杂问题时缺乏动力……”
看过一部关于非洲传统葬礼的纪录片，他们让尸体呆在外面。讲述者吹嘘这是“回归自然”和“亲近自然”的“传统”。根本就不是这样的，像大多数人说的那样他们只是懒惰而已。



Winston Smith from Airstrip 1 Friedrich • 3 years ago
London is like that, too. I had a few hours to kill on a layover there and took the London Underground to Buckingham Palace. I was literally the only white person on a crowded train. Most passengers appeared to be Pakistanis or Indians. We passed several neighborhoods where no white face was to be seen.

伦敦也是同样的情况。我在那里停留了几个小时，乘伦敦地铁去白金汉宫。在拥挤的火车上，我是唯一的一个白人。大多数乘客似乎是巴基斯坦人或印度人。我们经过了好几个社区都没有看到一张白人面孔。

Funruffian • 3 years ago
This guy is very bright and has a much clearer concept of Racial relations, differences and its political ramifications than any other non-White I know. The fact that he understands this at such a young age is also admirable.

这个作者非常聪明，对种族关系、分歧及其政治影响的概念比我所认识的任何其他非白人都要清楚得多。他这么年轻就懂得这一点，真是令人钦佩。

PCmustgo Guest • 3 years ago
I think White Identarians in France will eventually start hardcore breeding battles.... signing up for battle by breeding lots of white french children. The Jews do it here in Brooklyn, after the holocaust and all, they are intent on expanding their numbers.Orthodox/Hasidic I mean.

我认为法国的白种人最终会开始繁衍生育。通过繁殖大量的白人法国儿童报名参加战斗。犹太人在布鲁克林区做过这种事，在大屠杀之后，他们都打算扩大他们的人口数量。我的意思是正统的犹太人数量。

mrfinoni • 3 years ago
Good article! It proves that only White liberals believe the egalitarian nonsense. The future of the White race may lie with Eastern Europe. Um mm... perhaps this whole liberal left wing sham was drafted in the Kremlin during the cold war!

好文章！这证明只有白人自由主义者相信平等主义的胡说八道。白种人的未来可能在东欧。嗯，也许这整个自由左翼的虚伪家伙们是在冷战期间在克里姆林宫被征召入伍的！

NoMosqueHere Question Diversity • 3 years ago
No, not really. The European left makes endless exceptions for arab and muslim fascist regimes that discriminate openly against women, tolerate slavery and human trafficking, ban free speech, and implement barbaric corporal and capital punishment. And that's a partial list. They hate Israel because it is diamond in a sea of muslim mud.

不，真相不是这样的。欧洲左派无休止地为阿拉伯和穆斯林法西斯政权破例，这些政权公开歧视妇女，容忍奴隶制和人口贩卖，禁止言论自由，实施野蛮的体罚和死刑。这是一个部分列表。他们憎恨以色列人，因为它是穆斯林泥沼中的钻石。



LHathaway Bob C • 3 years ago
I think White men are going it alone, simply because they have to. It's good they do have MGTOW since that is their fate. It's true, White men do have incredibly over-optimist beliefs regarding what they can come to expect when it comes to a mate. I would say this is the result of television and video, from birth to death, constantly pairing average looking white men on screen with what are usually some of the best looking women on earth. This constant exposure all through the only life they've know, does something to their mind, on an unconscious level. I remember the goofy father on 'Alf' being married to a total super-model. This is all before being constantly exposed to the 'privilege' idea, in one form or another (another AmRener claims 'privilege' is just a new word or a new package to describe what they've always done). Repackaged white-guilt themes or something he called it
I find it odd, in your attitude (not to mention the above display of your researching acumen) that you seem to want to deny that white men are being discriminated against. There is likely a lot of truth to what you've said, but it is also true white men are not turning down sex, with anything. I feel fairly confident on that one. And perhaps nearly half of all births now are to unmarried mothers. Nothing is stopping them from choosing white men as their sperm donors. Overall, it is something worth talking about for it will only be after white men are denied, 'affirmative action', too, that hated affirmative action will begin to end for everyone else. That will depend . . . on asking for it.
It will only be whites facing up to their looming extinction in NA (instead of closing their eyes to it or denying it) that will prod them to vote for separation. Something that will separate us from those hungry, crime-prone, poor, clueless, ignorant, inferior and backward non-whites.
As to your diagnosis, "They lack the drive to climb the social ladder, learn skills, improve themselves, and become more powerful (regardless of where they started at). The 2010s are like the 70s all over again for white men. And it ain't attractive".
I find it hard to believe they do not have the drive or the desire . . . they lack the ability. How can we ever hope to change that if we close our eyes to it and don't acknowledge it. What is our goal, not to alter or affect anything (or even to promote the breakdown )? Are we simply about damage control now, trying to prevent the harm these bum-whites cause by keeping them ignorant?
If this is the cause of White population decline I see no way at all it can ever be fixed. There will always be White men who are economic losers, or whose income falls well-below the mean. If these men never have children (as has been the case since the 70's) the White population in NAmerica will never stabilize. At least in theory at some future time it could have. We may be approaching a time where 50% of White men never sire children.

我认为白人们得靠自己去做这件事情了，因为他们不得不这样做。很好，他们有MGTOW，因为这是他们的命运。这是真的，白人对配偶的期望有着过分乐观的信念。我想说，这是电视和视频造就的结果，从出生到死亡，在屏幕上不断地将普通的白人男性和通常是地球上一些最漂亮的女人配对。在他们唯一的生命中这种持续的宣传，在不知不觉的情况下对他们的大脑起了作用。我记得在“阿尔夫”里一个傻乎乎的父亲娶了一个超级模特。这一切都是在不断地宣扬（白人的）“特权”之前就出现了，以某种形式（另一个AMRIER声称的“特权”只是一个新词或是一个备用来描述他们一直在做事情的新包装）。重新包装我们称之为的白人的愧疚感。
我觉得奇怪的是，在你的态度（更不用说上面那些显示了你研究的敏锐程度），你似乎要否认白人也受到歧视这回事。你说的话可能在很多方面有道理，但也是真的，白人男性并不会去拒绝所有东西。我对那件事相当自信。现在大概有一半的婴儿是未婚妈妈所生。没有什么能阻止他们选择白人作为他们的精子捐赠者。总的来说，这件事情还是值得商榷的，因为只有在白人被拒绝后，“平权行动”（支持、鼓励聘用女性、少数族裔等受歧视者的行动）才会遭到反对。那就要根据具体情况具体分析了。
只有白人在这个国家中将要面临灭绝时（而不是闭上眼睛或否认它），才会促使他们投票支持分离。这些东西将把我们从那些饥饿的、有犯罪倾向、贫穷的、无能的、无知的、劣等和落后的非白人中分离出来。
至于你的论断，“他们没有动力王社会阶梯的上面攀登，或是学习技能，提高自己，变得更强大(不管他们从的起点在哪里)。2010年代对白人来说就像70年代一样。而且没有吸引力“。
我很难相信他们没有动力和欲望…他们缺乏这种能力。如果我们只是闭上眼睛不肯承认这一点，我们怎么可能有希望改变这种情形呢？我们的目标是什么，不改变或影响任何事情(甚至是促进崩溃)？我们现在仅仅是在控制损害，试图通过让他们无知来防止这些白人流浪汉造成的伤害吗？
如果这是白人人口减少的原因，我看不出有什么办法可以解决。总有一些白人是经济上的失败者，或者他们的收入远远低于平均水平。如果这些人没有孩子(像70年代以来那样的情况)，美国的白人人口就永远不会稳定下来。至少在未来的某个时候理论上是如此。我们可能正在接近这样一个时代，50%的白人永远不会生孩子。

Political onlooker LHathaway • 3 years ago
"Whites in NA are destined to become a smaller and smaller group among a sea of growing non-whites."
Which is considerably different to Europe. At least for the time being, countries in W. Europe can make up the shortfall in migrant workers by importing more workers from Eastern Europe, so they can reduce the overall numbers from outside the EU. But N. America cannot afford such a luxury, but still need to import migrant workers mostly from the developing countries.
White people depend on such migrants to maintain their standard of living, as such immigrants are usually available to do the most dirty, unpleasant jobs, which most White people don't want - as they consider such jobs beneath them.
Such workers fill an important niche in the labour market, which is vital to the smooth running of the US economy.
Otherwise, the economy would soon grind to a halt within a few weeks, white people's standard of living would plummet, and America would soon lose its geopolitical supremacy over the entire world.
Like it or not, the bipartisan government - Both GOP and Democrat - will have little choice but to continue importing migrants from the developing countries to maintain America's standard of living, and to maintain its status as the foremost military and economic power.
Such would be the "lesser of two evils" according to the bipartisan policy of the US government. But which of these two options do you prefer:-
America's geopolitical decline with no coloured immigration at all, or else America will maintain its geographical supremacy at SIGNIFICANT COST by allowing annual coloured migration to these shores?
Edit: UK Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli (20 February 1874 – 21 April 1880) said that "Capitalism or the free market is an EXPEDIENT, not a moral principle".
As capitalism will often produce outcomes which are morally undesirable, but the EXPEDIENT practical results - such as increasing the national GDP and raising the general standard of living - will usually outweigh the political consequences of exploitation and surplus value.
Likewise, immigration or diversity is primarily an EXPEDIENT measure by the government, but not a social policy nor political ideal of its own right, nor a result of social engineering by the State.
So that race realism may still be a legitimate concern for some people, but ECONOMIC REALITY must take precedence over RACIAL DIFFERENCE as far as the government is concerned.

“白人国家的白种人注定会在日益增长的非白人的海洋中成为一个越来越小的群体。”
与欧洲大不相同。至少在目前，西欧国家可以通过从东欧进口更多的工人来弥补移民工人的短缺，这样他们就可以减少来自欧盟以外的总人数。但是，美国负担不起这样的奢侈行为，所以仍然需要从发展中国家进口移民工人。
白人依靠这些移民来维持他们现在的生活水平，因为这些移民通常可以从事最肮脏、最令人不快的工作，而大多数白人并不想这样做——因为他们认为这些工作对他们来说有失身份。
这些工人填补了劳动力市场的一个重要利基，而劳动力市场对于美国经济的顺利运行至关重要。否则，经济将在几周内陷入停滞，白人的生活水平将直线下降，美国将很快失去对整个世界的地缘政治优势。
不管你喜不喜欢，两党政府——包括共和党和民主党——除了继续从发展中国家输入移民以维持美国的生活水平和保持其作为最重要的军事和经济强国的地位之外，别无选择。
根据美国政府的两党政策，这将是“两害相较取其之轻”。但你更喜欢这两种选择中的哪一种：——美国的地缘政治霸权衰落，根本没有有色人种的移民进入，或者，美国将以巨大代价来继续维持其地理优势，允许有色人种移民每年登录这些海岸？
编辑：英国首相本杰明·迪斯雷利(1874-1880年4月21日)说，“资本主义或自由市场是权宜之计，不是道德原则”。
由于资本主义往往会产生道德上不受欢迎的结果，但权宜之计的实际结果——比如提高了国民生产总值和人民的总体生活水平——通常这笔剥削剩余价值带来的政治后果好多了。
同样，移民或多样性主要是政府采取的权宜之计，但不是一项社会政策，也不是其自身权利的政治理想，更不是国家社会工程的结果。
因此，对于某些人来说，种族现实主义可能仍然是一个合理的问题，但就政府而言，经济现实必须优先于种族差异问题。



HalfJudean (Destroyer-Drone) Question Diversity • 3 years ago
I disagree with you on three accounts.
Firstly, there are plenty of prominent Jews who back Europe's leftist parties: Krivine, Cohn-Bendit, the Milibands, Moscovici, Kaufman to name a few. They lead a very assimilated life and are more European than the Europeans themselves, you could say they're mostly self-loathing Jews. Which certainly disqualifies the "jewish agenda" theory. It really depends on what you mean by "non-Jewish left". For in many of Western Europe's left-leaning countries, there is a strange obsession with all-things [Ashkenazi, Sephardic, pre-Israeli] Jewish.
Secondly, Euroleftists are abysmal hypocrites who vouch for Arabs mostly out of Cold War nostalgia. They only believe in that fantasy called "moderate islam" in order to make themselves feel good about the blatant contradictions involving their alliance with the mohammedans. There is nothing egalitarian in their approach towards Israel and deep-down they know it. It is the exception par excellence.
Lastly, the American and Israeli left are just as suicidally egalitarian towards Israel as the European branch. Europe leads the way in what to think and say in that regard.

有三个方面我不同意你的意见。
首先，有很多着名的犹太人支持欧洲的左翼政党：克里文、科恩-本迪特、米利班德、莫斯科维奇、考夫曼等等。他们过着被同化的生活，比欧洲人自己更像欧洲人，你可以说他们大多是自我厌恶的犹太人。这无疑是不符合“犹太人掌控一切”理论的。这取决于你所说的“非犹太人左派”是什么意思。因为在西欧的许多左倾国家，人们对一切事物都有一种奇怪的迷恋[德系犹太人、西板鸭犹太人、前以色列犹太人]。
第二，欧洲左派分子是群极坏的伪君子，他们主要是出于对冷战的怀旧从而为阿拉伯人做担保的。他们只相信所谓的“温和伊斯兰”的幻想，是为了让自己对他们与穆罕默德结盟的公然矛盾感到高兴。他们对待以色列的态度可不是平等主义的，他们深知这点。这是很显然的例外。
最后，美国和以色列左派对以色列的态度和对待欧洲一样。在这方面，欧洲从思想到言论方面都发挥了主导作用。

De Deplorable Doc • 3 years ago
Our tribal instincts are deep and hard to eradicate. Oh sure, there will always be the rare bird that manages to cross those barriers and become part of the new milieu, but these we must remember are always exceptions to the rules. Many Western nations are in for hellish times ahead, as the numbers of radically different foreigners keep trampling into our lands and demanding their slice of the pie.

我们的部落本能很深很难根除。当然，总会有一种罕见的鸟能够跨越这些障碍，成为新环境的一部分，但我们必须记住，这些都是正常规则的例外。许多西方国家正面对着一个可怕的未来，因为大量完全不同的外国人不断地践踏我们的土地，要求给他们分一杯羹。